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Aficionados: Let's discuss Easton McMorris

 
Larr Pullo 2016-03-21 16:02:16 

I'm sure many here have heard mention of Easton McMorris when discussing good FC players who didn't cut it at Test level.

I myself never saw him play, but I remember hearing about him scoring heavily in Shell Shield cricket. Of course by then his test career was long past. I took a look at his numbers on Cricinfo and found:

Numbers

Funny enough his numbers would not have been out of place today, but tback in those days of Sobers, Butcher Kanhai, Lloyd et al, there's no way he could have forced his way into a WI team.

However, as you read the narrative of his career, he really only struggled in England on the green pitches there, and was good enough to count 1 ton and three 50's in 13 tests.

What do the cricket watchers from that era say? Was Easton McMorris a mere FC bully or someone who just never got the chance to establish a career at the highest level?

 
StumpCam 2016-03-21 16:07:03 

In reply to Larr Pullo

What do the cricket watches from that era say?


His time ran out! lol lol

 
Larr Pullo 2016-03-21 16:08:31 

In reply to StumpCam

Good one!!

lol lol lol

You must have seen him, anything to add about Easton?

 
StumpCam 2016-03-21 16:13:44 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Nope! Like you, that was before my time!
You have to send out an APB for the Dukester and Spudz!

 
CALI-WESTINDIAN 2016-03-21 16:16:40 

McMorris, Peter Lashley,and Devon Smith, were all FC bullies.

 
Bigzinc 2016-03-21 16:24:57 

In reply to CALI-WESTINDIAN

Devon is still very much a FC bully

 
googley 2016-03-21 16:29:18 

There was no greater FC bully than one Sheik Faoud Ahamul Fasiel Bacchus!! lol lol lol

 
CALI-WESTINDIAN 2016-03-21 16:29:25 

True Lol

 
Priapus 2016-03-21 16:39:18 

In reply to Larr Pullo

I heard he was christened as LEASTton shortly after he retired. lol lol

 
Drapsey 2016-03-21 16:41:35 

In reply to Larr Pullo

He was nick-named the Strokeless Wonder.

 
tc1 2016-03-21 16:45:29 

In reply to Larr Pullo

my recollection of Easton McMorris was that he was the original fc bully and got run out off a no-ball.

 
tc1 2016-03-21 16:53:50 

In reply to CALI-WESTINDIAN

Pete only had 4 test matches, bajans called Pete 'left handed Frankie' and prefer him to Nurse

 
tc1 2016-03-21 17:00:08 

In reply to Larr Pullo

u think KB is slow , the the man all week to make 25, on 2 tours to UK, He scored 1500 plus runs on each occasion.

 
openning 2016-03-21 17:19:58 

In reply to Larr Pullo
I have seen McMorris and Peter Lashley, the era at that time was to score from day one.
Easton and Peter may have dominated local club cricket, so fan knew about them at the local level, they both went on to be very, very good regional cricketers, who failed to get it going like many others, during that time.
Everton Weekes alway speak of Seymoure batting for seven days, in preparation for Australia, he went on to score 233 runs.
Both Easton and Peter were nervous, and one test match failure got them replace.
I remember a runout for backing up to far, that was the end of Easton's test career.

 
openning 2016-03-21 17:22:48 

In reply to tc1

Pete only had 4 test matches, bajans called Pete 'left handed Frankie' and prefer him to Nurse

Peter Lashley was a batsman, even those he played for the wrong team, most of the Bajan batsman today, cannot be compare to him.

 
Larr Pullo 2016-03-21 17:25:10 

In reply to openning

I remember a runout for backing up to far, that was the end of Easton's test career.


i believe he played after that and scored his lone test ton after.

 
openning 2016-03-21 17:32:01 

In reply to Larr Pullo
He could had, but he was so nervous, playing test.
I would like to compare Easton social and economic background and invoriment, to that of Basil Butcher and Seymoure Nurse.
Peter Lashley only played four tests

 
tc1 2016-03-21 17:36:50 

In reply to openning/ Larro

the run out was in 1960, off a no-ball , Hunte straight drive Trueman and he deflected on to the stumps and poor Easton was out by a mile.

my recollection of him was that he was 5 times slower than KB.he took 2 days to scored a ton

The other opener was Cammie Smith, he scored heavily against fast and straight bowlers, he could scored 40 in 10 mins, spinners like Gibbs would eat him up.

 
tc1 2016-03-21 17:37:46 

Peter Lashley was a batsman, even those he played for the wrong team,


which team was the wrong team Spartan

 
Oilah 2016-03-21 17:49:59 

Bad timing...batting was very strong at that time. If Lashley and McMorris had come at a different time and got more chances they may have stuck. I remember Gomes struggling initially but got more chances and became a stalwart in the middle. Maurice Foster also fits the bill of a very good regional player who did not make it at test level.

 
openning 2016-03-21 17:54:02 

In reply to Oilah
Two of my favourite are Larry Gomes and Joe Solomon, these two knew their role.
Mcmorris era distake, he had to hit the road running
Larr is on a Witch hunt.

 
tc1 2016-03-21 18:14:11 

In reply to openning


Larr is not o a witch hunt, Mc Morris was a fc bully, the man scored over 1500 runs each on 2 trips to England and could not buy a run in test , 2 days before the test match he scored a almost a double ton


Trueman and Statham waiting for a free wicket

 
Larr Pullo 2016-03-21 18:16:58 

In reply to tc1

You mean John Snow.... smile smile

 
tc1 2016-03-21 18:18:17 

In reply to Oilah

Mc Morris was given a free ride in tests, Cammie Smith had 5 test , Glendon Gibbs had 1, Teddy Griffith had 0, Robin Bynoe 1 test at 18, the 2nd when he was 28.

he had a god father

 
methodic 2016-03-21 18:19:57 

In reply to Larr Pullo

you have to have some luck. Gomes was lucky to get another chance. I always heard about MCmorris and was around for the end of Foster. I saw Baichan. Baichan was in the mode of Balkaram Seagram and Kenrick Bainey but he was a cut above.

 
tc1 2016-03-21 18:26:31 

In reply to Larr Pullo


1963 was still Trueman and Statham , Snow was 66, you boy Easton did last as long as a snow ball in summer, he melted.

Man so scared of Trueman and Statham he rather get runout off a noball
lol lol lol

 
Ewart 2016-03-21 19:08:15 

In reply to StumpCam





lol lol lol razz


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Ewart 2016-03-21 19:14:14 

In reply to tc1


Once.


And that was a lesson for thousands of cricketers who did not know the rule.


But he was savagely derided for that immortal blunder at Sabina Park.


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tc1 2016-03-21 19:21:07 

In reply to Ewart

no, it was in Barbados in 1960 with the no ball,did he happen twice? Did he played local cricket with Sir Frank.

 
Fivestar 2016-03-21 19:46:23 

In reply to Larr Pullo

McMorris is one of a long line of West Indian opening batsmen who failed at Test cricket. His partner Hunte couldn't find someone to open the batting with him. Hunte's successor, Roy Fredericks, had the same problem. In recent times, Chris Gayle, has searched for a partner as well. So the million dollar question is why do we have a hard time producing quality opening batsmen in Test cricket?

 
Oilah 2016-03-21 20:16:40 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Dwayne Smith looks like that picture of McMorris

 
sunfish 2016-03-21 20:32:41 

I remember him from 60's radio commentaries. Him and Renford Pinnock were my favorite Jamaican players of that era. And I'm not Jamaican but they were good at the regional level and caught my attention..

 
Drapsey 2016-03-21 20:45:45 

In reply to Fivestar

McMorris is one of a long line of West Indian opening batsmen who failed at Test cricket. His partner Hunte couldn't find someone to open the batting with him. Hunte's successor, Roy Fredericks, had the same problem. In recent times, Chris Gayle, has searched for a partner as well. So the million dollar question is why do we have a hard time producing quality opening batsmen in Test cricket?

Not really. Lawrence Rowe partnered Fredricks to well documented records.

 
Ewart 2016-03-21 21:10:58 

In reply to tc1

I don't know what you saw in Barbados or read about in Barbados.

But I know what I saw at Sabina. I was there.


big grin big grin


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ducks 2016-03-21 21:38:28 

In reply to Ewart


But I know what I saw at Sabina. I was there


I think the sabina incident was the runout of Rohan.

I dont think Bull got the sustained run to develop confidence the selectors were playing musical cheers with bull and Carew who didnt get mentioned as first class bully

 
TheTrail 2016-03-21 21:50:35 

In reply to tc1

Easton McMorris was a right-hand opening batsman whose Test career started poorly. He scored 13 and 16 on debut against Pakistan in 1957-58, and in his next match, against England in the first Test at Bridgetown in 1959-60, was run-out at the non-striker's end without facing a ball.


They never said if it was a no ball.

Maybe he got Mankad. lol lol

Link Text

 
tc1 2016-03-21 22:35:49 

In reply to TheTrail

Conrad straight drive Trueman and Trueman deflect the ball to the stumps at the non striker end and ran out McMorris off a no ball.

the oval was mad , man got run out off a noball

lol lol lol lol

man if u doubt me ask any of the old timers when u go back to Bim, it a favorite topic

 
Fivestar 2016-03-21 23:53:21 

In reply to Drapsey

You must be joking! Lawrence Rowe was once the star batsman on the West Indies team coming in at number 3. He opened with Fredericks in one series because at the time we had too many middle order batsmen. There was Rowe, Kallicharan, Lloyd, Kanhai and Sobers to fill four spots. They decided Rowe would open based on his temperament and technique.

 
mikesiva 2016-03-22 10:38:46 

I never watched him bat, but I had more than one clash with him when I was a sports journalist and he was a cricket administrator....

Remember that Sabina Park abandoned pitch?

 
Ewart 2016-03-22 10:58:09 

In reply to TheTrail


Memory is a Caribbean beach. wink


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Larr Pullo 2016-03-22 11:01:18 

In reply to mikesiva

What was that clash like?

 
camos 2016-03-22 11:07:32 

Bull said he got paid 5 pounds for the '63 tour! lol

 
Larr Pullo 2016-03-22 11:08:54 

In reply to camos

You serious? Even in that economy did 5 Pounds even meet their expenses?

 
camos 2016-03-22 11:21:16 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Lester King told me he and Valentine gave some guys two tickets to Lords and they used those tickets to bring in about 300 folks. lol

 
Drapsey 2016-03-22 11:40:49 

In reply to Fivestar

You must be joking! Lawrence Rowe was once the star batsman on the West Indies team coming in at number 3. He opened with Fredericks in one series because at the time we had too many middle order batsmen. There was Rowe, Kallicharan, Lloyd, Kanhai and Sobers to fill four spots. They decided Rowe would open based on his temperament and technique.

What did I say different?

Rowe opened in many series, the first one (I remember) being that of the Barbados 302 fame.

But this is about 'Bull' McMorris.

 
Yadi 2016-03-22 12:28:29 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Like M Foster , R Pinnock and Desmond Lewis .. or even the late Basil Williams ... Easton McMorris was far better than just first class

cricket. However, all of these batsmen played very few test matches ... Pinnock didn't even get one game.

 
Bigzinc 2016-03-22 12:42:39 

In reply to Yadi

amazing how these batters are all better than their stats!!!

 
mikesiva 2016-03-22 13:19:44 

In reply to Larr Pullo

It's probably unfair of me to comment on it...let's just say that we didn't see eye to eye on how I wrote a story or two, and leave it at that.
smile

 
Tagwa1 2016-03-22 20:04:56 

In reply to Drapsey

Not really. Lawrence Rowe partnered Fredricks to well documented records.


To we'll documented records??? I woulda let it slide except for that last piece of cocky arseness.

That's like someone have a nice wedding cake making and you dip a dirty finger in it.

Just read nah and leave good threads alone. Or at least check it out before you post.

 
Drapsey 2016-03-22 23:04:42 

In reply to Tagwa1

L G Rowe while opening with Fredricks:


Match by match list
Bat1 Bat2 Runs Wkts Conc Ct St Opposition/Ground Start Date

120 - 120 0 1 2 0 v England Kingston 16 Feb 1974 Test # 732

302 - 302 0 5 0 0 v England Bridgetown 6 Mar 1974 Test # 734

28 - 28 - - 0 0 v England Georgetown 22 Mar 1974 Test # 737

123 25 148 - - 1 0 v England Port of Spain 30 Mar 1974 Test # 738

28 107 135 - - 0 0 v Australia Brisbane 28 Nov 1975 Test # 764 (??????)

 
Tagwa1 2016-03-23 22:10:18 

In reply to Drapsey

That's what happen when you take a ting from a book.

The point is that Fredericks didnt have a settled partner. Comacho, baichan,the two greenidges, Richards, lewis even Bernard Julien opened with Fredo.

These 4 or 5 innings does not make him a consistent partner.

That is the point.