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Devin is this yuh talking about?

 
Larr Pullo 2016-05-09 12:24:35 

That is a VERY select group of batsmen.... smile smile smile

 
Devin 2016-05-09 12:27:31 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Man, I don't think you really want me to dissect Lara's stats, cuz I will have a field day, and I don't need to manipulate anything.

No surprise to see Sanga and Gavaskar there. No surprise that Lara did it against Sri Lanka, that great bowling attack.

 
nick2020 2016-05-09 12:29:24 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Devin's posts are a cry for attention.
And relevance.

But mostly attention.

A man who has done very little in Test cricket mentioned in the same sentence as BCL and Tendy. For me that is a damning statement to anyone's credibility. You cannot know anything about cricket or really any sport or have the ability to do simple math in order to say something as stupid as that.

But I appreciate stupidity. Tells me at least I have learned something lol

 
Devin 2016-05-09 12:32:59 

In reply to nick2020

No no, you're the one who knows nothing about cricket, or any sport probably.

You see, jackass, you actually think Darren Bravo is a better batsman than Virat Kohli.

 
Devin 2016-05-09 12:34:41 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Pulling a Lara, I believe that's the term. For example, when Lara scored 400 not out in Antigua vs England after only mustering 100 runs in his previous 6 innings of that series.


When England finally found some bowlers, Lara failed miserably on his last two tours there.

In 2000 he played 5 tests in England, scored 239 runs, averaged 26.55 from 9 innings. He had a highest score of 112, which means his other 8 innings yielded 127 runs.

In 2004 he played 4 Tests, scored 264 runs, averaged 33 from 8 innings.

Lara scored runs against England when they had Angus Frasier, Andy Caddick, Chris Lewis, and Phil Tufnell. Even Kohli with his dismal record against England would've dismantled those clowns.

Who did Lara really score runs against? We know it wasn't Wasim and Waqar, or Donald and Pollock, and rarely against McGrath and co. down under.

 
Devin 2016-05-09 12:39:02 

Apart from the meaningless 400 not out, Lara's last 23 innings against England yielded 603 runs at an average of 26.21

 
NineMiles 2016-05-09 12:55:45 

In reply to Devin

Devin, yuh talking shite!!

Lara scored those runs against Murali and Vaas who were a very potent bowling attack... Murali was ranked 3rd best bowler at the time - only Pollock and McGrath were ahead of him. Vaas was ranked 6th.

No other WI batsman supported Lara except for Sarwan.... Hell, you, Chrissy and I followed that series on cricinfo throughout the nights here. Like you've developed selective memory since your man crush on Kohli!

 
Devin 2016-05-09 12:59:26 

In reply to nick2020

Chappell says Kohli is ever better than Lara at finding gaps.

Cullinan says Kohli is the best he's seen at finding gaps since Lara.

Hayden says Kohli is the best he's seen since Lara.

Lara says Kohli is the best batsman in the world across all formats.

Viv Richards says Kohli reminds him the most of himself.

It's about foresight, and you have none. It's about the eye test, and you're probably blind.

People can call it lickit cricket or whatever, but the fact that all his shots are ideal and orthodox cricket shots is why analysts around the world expect him to dominate in all formats.

 
Devin 2016-05-09 13:00:36 

In reply to NineMiles

Bossman, you heard what Holding said about Lara? He is the greatest batsman he's seen against medium paced and spin bowling. I would not debate that, because it's probably true.

 
NineMiles 2016-05-09 13:02:54 

In reply to Devin

Yet his Test average against Eng is 62.15 while your lover-boy's is a pathetic 20.13

 
Devin 2016-05-09 13:07:04 

In reply to NineMiles

When England finally found some bowlers, Lara failed miserably on his last two tours there.

In 2000 he played 5 tests in England, scored 239 runs, averaged 26.55 from 9 innings. He had a highest score of 112, which means his other 8 innings yielded 127 runs.

In 2004 he played 4 Tests, scored 264 runs, averaged 33 from 8 innings.

Lara scored runs against England when they had Angus Frasier, Andy Caddick, Chris Lewis, and Phil Tufnell. Even Kohli with his dismal record against England would've dismantled those clowns.


Apart from the meaningless 400 not out, Lara's last 23 innings against England yielded 603 runs at an average of 26.21

 
NineMiles 2016-05-09 13:17:49 

In reply to Devin

Look, any cricketer's stats can be dissected and skewed unfavorably.

I don't need to big up Lara's achievements here for anyone.... who doesn't know is simply ignorant or has an agenda.

Lara is one of the greatest batsmen to ever grace the cricket field...... Kohli has a long way to go to reach those heights!

 
nick2020 2016-05-09 14:16:33 

In reply to NineMiles

I don't need to big up Lara's achievements here for anyone.... who doesn't know is simply ignorant or has an agenda.


This is where you are wrong. With Devin there is no or. lol lol lol

Anyone with a shred of common sense regardless of the agenda would look at an equivalent span to compare two players where one is retired and one is active.

Virat Kohli has played 71 inns in Test. That is a large enough sample. The person with a drop of common sense would look at Brian Lara's first 71 inns and do a compare/contrast. But there are obvious reasons why Devin does not want to do that. He would rather say "look at this lean patch" in Lara's career. The kick in the nuts funny part about that is Lara's lean patch nets him an average that is not so distant than Kohli's whole career.

Lara - at his worst is Kohli.

That is the moral of the story.

And finally something that he has never answered - why is Kohli so great to the point he is the entire Justice League rolled up into one awesome cricketer yet he has not been able to sniff a double ton? A man that is the greatest cricketer ever?

After 71 inns it is clear he will not achieve the greatest record of all time - most runs in Test cricket. But to Devin he will always be the greatest.

 
NineMiles 2016-05-09 14:35:16 

In reply to nick2020

...and there is the small matter of rectifying this abysmal blotch on his record! lol

 
WestDem 2016-05-09 14:50:28 

In reply to Larr Pullo

I notice something funny in dat Lara's game....it is Vaastly visible.... lol lol lol

 
googley 2016-05-09 15:14:03 

In reply to WestDem

lol lol lol lol

 
carl0002 2016-05-09 16:28:21 

In reply to nick2020
One can only say and it is clear to see that when it comes to Devin and Kholi, Love is blind.

 
Halliwell 2016-05-09 16:43:03 

Lara at his worst is Kohli lol lol lol

Take win! lol

 
nick2020 2016-05-09 17:14:05 

In reply to Devin

Chappell says Kohli is ever better than Lara at finding gaps.


Does that mean he is better than Lara as a batsman?

Cullinan says Kohli is the best he's seen at finding gaps since Lara.


Does that mean he is better than Lara as a batsman?

Hayden says Kohli is the best he's seen since Lara.


That means he is better than Lara?

Lara says Kohli is the best batsman in the world across all formats.


Stop shifting the goal post. Lara never played T20i. We talking about Test cricket.

Viv Richards says Kohli reminds him the most of himself.


And Kohli reminds you of yourself. Does not mean you can play cricket as well as Lara.

It's about foresight, and you have none. It's about the eye test, and you're probably blind.


The eye test says Kohli averages 44 in Test cricket.

People can call it lickit cricket or whatever, but the fact that all his shots are ideal and orthodox cricket shots is why analysts around the world expect him to dominate in all formats.


Can you tell me how to get to Sesame Street?

 
KrishManohar 2016-05-09 17:14:58 

In reply to carl0002

lol lol lol lol lol Love / Obsession lol lol lol