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Have you ever been a victim of a crime?

 
black 2016-09-06 15:27:08 

Lets say, theft of property in excess of $1,000. Have your views on crime and criminals change because of it?

What should be the punishment for the offender?

 
methodic 2016-09-06 15:52:45 

In reply to black

somebody stole zillions of dollars from me and me peeps

 
Bigzinc 2016-09-06 16:08:19 

In reply to black

yep.. my views have not changed. Jail for the bastards.

 
black 2016-09-06 16:45:27 

In reply to Bigzinc

It's hard to see something you worked hard to obtain, disappear within minutes.

I had it happen twice.

 
Dan_De_Lyan 2016-09-06 17:22:03 

In reply to black

i was walking past the mental hospital the other day and all the patients were shouting, '13....13.....13.'

The fence was too high to see over, but I saw a little gap in the planks.

I looked through to see what was going on.....

Some bastard poked me in the eye with a stick!

Then they all started shouting '14.....14....14....

 
Cheeks 2016-09-06 17:34:53 

In reply to black

We are all victims of your criminal inanity.

 
pelon 2016-09-06 19:45:34 

In reply to Dan_De_Lyan

Dat is funny. lol lol lol lol lol
Moral of the story: who is the crazy one? Check yourself 4 u get tek.

 
bravos 2016-09-06 19:47:30 

In reply to black

Got burglarized 3 times in 3 different homes while coming up,the second and worst one I was in my early to mid 20's (22-24) living with my first son's mom..I was young and bought all my stereo components JVC and Teac and some huge CD towers full of genuine CDs,everything from Roberta flack to Kenny G to MJ to Guns n Roses, and some big ass square 'flat screen' Tv's in those days,workmen were building a pool next door for weeks..came home a Friday to meet all lights on and side door forced open and a concentration of mud right there from boots..they took everything,I was distraught as a very young man,it was close to Xmas,my mom bought back everything for me..the same or even better...love that woman!! Anyway I wanted them dead and was obsessed with that..

Same thing happened a year or 2 before that actually,I was 21 ,at a townhouse we were renting before...a nice lil gated bounded by a semi village,the 'neighbor' son was the culprit,he did't take big stuff like electronics,mostly jewelry and small items but it was the first time and I felt really violated and wanted him dead..passed home many times during the day in the hopes of catching him and chopping him up(didn't have gun permit yet).

Then finally when wifey and I got in we rented a nice apartment overlooking the sea in the West,gardener broke in,took money and jewelry and small items as well,wifey felt much worse than me because it was her first time..

I saw the guy walking out the area after and buss his face with a gun butt..nearly got in trouble as you not supposed to pull that out unless in danger....(shhhh) Anyway I had to take the fucker to KFC and the pharmacy after...a doctor neighbor who he worked for was facilitating him and validating the bastard after I bled his face out...but the guy in the mini mart on the main road said he came with plenty change/coins etc..we had plenty coins..

i felt like killing all of them at the time,but now I would only kill you if I find you coming in or inside...I'm mature now.. cool


Have been robbed at gunpoint couple times too,never bothered me too much....different scene now though..mi ready!! twisted But my worst crime experience is when I left my business to go pick up my son in 2000 and when i returned my undercover armed security/sales person was dead in a shootout with 2 bandits..that effed me up,he was my friend and we were planning in closing early to go play pool for hours that day..they were caught and sentenced though..endorsed by the area gangstas because 'dey shoulda neva go rong a man like bravos'...we went to court and the witnesses worked everyday and none were harmed,I know how to survive here bro..

My motto now is we don't fuss for material things but we would have to kill you if you come to take it and we there..

 
pelon 2016-09-06 19:50:11 

In reply to black

I had it happen twice.
If these two instances are "inside" jobs - that is items stolen for people you know - the we shall go route A. If they are items stolen from "external thieves"... Route B.

Route A: YOU are the problem. (honestly) fight me bout it now.
Route B: YOU are the victim, but perhaps STILL the problem - though unlikely - could be just "unfortunate" as per above post.

Unlike Bravos, I think you got hit - as an inside job. I stand by to be informed....

 
black 2016-09-06 20:00:51 

In reply to pelon

How can you make that conclusion without facts?

 
powen001 2016-09-06 20:17:10 

In reply to black

Burgled twice.

one a guy reached thru the open sunroof and grabbed my gym bag while I was standing mere feet away...stole my wallet and then had the balls to call some of my clients in my diary saying he was coming to collect money on my behalf for premiums.

the next one...Family got gassed..week before World Cup 2007..

stole wifes car...my spare keys for my lexus...couldnt drive stick..stupid incompetent bastards so couldnt move my car..but stole my laptop bag and Sagicor branded jackets...and camera.

threw laptop bag out of car about 200 yards down the road....jackasses thought it was too heavy and with so many compartments missed hundreds of dollars in client funds and my laptop it self ..all safely intact...

small mercies..

I still think they want locking up..and I know for sure I would shoot first and ask questions later..these men dont care about me nor my family...

 
black 2016-09-06 20:21:11 

In reply to powen001

Sorry for your loss but that is some funny shit. lol

 
pelon 2016-09-06 20:21:12 

In reply to black

How can you make that conclusion without facts?

see the " I stand by to be informed.... "
That was to suggest: I know nothing, I await you informing me.

 
bravos 2016-09-06 20:22:55 

In reply to powen001

Gassed? They put them to sleep?? shock

 
black 2016-09-06 20:29:14 

In reply to powen001

I had one guy break my car window an took everything that was in it, Just got done shopping. Ouch!!

The guy must have been watching, I left the car for 1 minute.

The other was a home burglary, he took computers, jewelry, etc.

 
black 2016-09-06 20:43:18 

In reply to bravos

That is some serious stuff there. I see why Courtesy brought out his stats. lol


















Just kidding. lol

 
bravos 2016-09-06 20:58:30 

In reply to black

You trying to lose your one and only friend here you facter you?

smiley
..

 
black 2016-09-06 21:05:30 

In reply to bravos

lol lol lol

 
BeatDball 2016-09-06 21:14:32 

Extorted by deception! No joke...thru a website (not gwine say! Heheheh). Went to get a piece of a dougla looking chic....got to the location, only to encounter a hugly transvestite! I said this was a mistake n was about to leave when he/she stood by the door, snapped her/his fingers where a tallish young maaga man appears n sez that I have to leave her/him $omething! I gave this `thing` $20, but demanded more! I said to myself, `bai, u gwine have to cuff u way outta this`; unfortunately the `petite dougla with the tennis roll batty`, summoned another bloke with a dog n he/she demanded $100 more or they will sic rover pon me. No joke sah! I was stupid not to have a visual of the dougla before entering the apartment!
cry evil twisted

 
black 2016-09-06 21:24:16 

In reply to BeatDball

Stay away from Craigslist. lol

 
BeatDball 2016-09-06 21:34:59 

In reply to black Not craigslist!

 
Timpy 2016-09-07 00:30:19 

In reply to Dan_De_Lyan

lol

 
bravos 2016-09-07 00:31:39 

In reply to Dan_De_Lyan

ROTFLMAO!! lol lol

 
nick2020 2016-09-07 07:39:52 

In reply to bravos

Many Bajans believe person(s) were going around funneling a sleeping gas into bedrooms effectively knocking the residents out.

Sounds like hogwash to me.

Most people sleep in a bedroom 10*10 in size. Dem people wid a Lexus (in powen case probably an Altezza) may be in bedrooms much larger.
Most people sleep with standing fans on.

How quietly funneling gas in a room with air circulating going work?

 
sudden 2016-09-07 07:43:15 

In reply to nick2020

when was this happening? this is the first time i have heard of this?

 
sudden 2016-09-07 07:45:15 

In reply to nick2020

10 by 10? that cant even hold a bed. so how was sleeping gas administered? through an open window ?

 
black 2016-09-07 07:53:20 

In reply to sudden

That is a jail cell. lol lol lol

Nick doesn't know what he is talking about.

 
camos 2016-09-07 08:16:51 

In reply to nick2020

How quietly funneling gas in a room with air circulating going work?



how does Carbon monoxide kills people their homes?

 
bravos 2016-09-07 08:33:20 

In reply to nick2020

in powen case probably an Altezza
lol lol lol lol lol

 
nick2020 2016-09-07 08:42:54 

In reply to black

1. Average jail cell is 6 feet by 8 feet. That is 48sq feet. 10 by 10 is double that size.
2. Coverly is Barbados is a development with well over a thousand units (most empty though). Here is one of the floor plans. But for good measure here is a floor plan of a home in Georgia. Master bedroom is 18*10 but that has one suite bathroom and walk in closet. The other 2 bedrooms? 10*11.
3. I typing this from a bedroom that is around that size. Granted I do not drive an Altezza.

 
nick2020 2016-09-07 08:47:54 

In reply to camos

Are you sure you are not making up said situation? Exposure to slow leaks in an entire home killing people immediately?

Why do you need to sit in a non-ventilated garage with the car running for hours to commit suicide? How is the gas man going to feed gas quickly but silently thru a non-sealed bedroom window with air circulating? Man gotta open your window and feed a line thru said window. Air not going to get back thru the window?

And finally show me some kind of statement from the Barbados police warning people about being gassed and how to prevent it.

 
sudden 2016-09-07 08:54:23 

In reply to nick2020

So you using those huts at Coverley to describe the average bedroom for a man in Powen's class who drives a Lexus. No wonder Powen does cuss you. Give the man his due. The average size of a bedroom in Powen's mini mansion is 16 x 14 and the master bedroom is 20 x 20 en suite with walkin his and hers custom closets

 
nick2020 2016-09-07 08:57:20 

In reply to sudden

Well I did say powen's bedroom is larger.

Funny tho do you know brands like Lexus and Acura are North America brands? So in Japan you get Honda Integras but in the US they are called Acura Integra. In Barbados we do not typically get Lexuses.

Powen being powen?

Toyota Altezzas were very popular at one point though. Reasonable guess.

 
camos 2016-09-07 09:07:19 

In reply to nick2020

Funny tho do you know brands like Lexus and Acura are North America brands?
you are making up facts, Lexus is sold in over 70 countries as Lexus ,including Japan.

 
black 2016-09-07 09:32:22 

In reply to nick2020

Lexus is Toyota

Acura is Honda

Infiniti is Nissan.

But, in the U.S. they are marketed as separate brands.

 
bravos 2016-09-07 09:47:17 

In reply to camos

Lexus cars are Toyotas in Japan and many Asian countries and most non-US/UK markets,only recently they have been badging some Lexus due to the launch of the Lexus LFA..

Lexus GS-Toyota Aristo

Lexus RX- Toyota Harrier

Lexus IS-Toyota Altezza

 
sudden 2016-09-07 10:03:07 

In reply to bravos

that guy Camos dont know facts?

 
nick2020 2016-09-07 10:08:31 

In reply to camos

True, I should have said "like North America".
The point though is in Barbados Lexus is not a usual brand. Unless you brought it in yourself. Which is possible with powen since he a big stage NYer.

 
black 2016-09-07 10:10:48 

In reply to bravos

In many cases it's the same cars but they have separate dealership distribution systems in the U.S. Those brands are supposed to be the luxury divisions.

 
bravos 2016-09-07 10:16:19 

In reply to black

I know but they are re-badged Toyotas..it was solely a strategy for the US market to compete with Acura,Infiniti,Euros etc...but the real purists are lovers of JDM (Japanese domestic market)..

In Japan one of the most desirous cars is the Toyota Crown Royal Saloon which has no Lexus association at all...

 
bravos 2016-09-07 10:16:36 

In reply to sudden

Lol...

 
black 2016-09-07 10:18:47 

In reply to bravos

I know but they are re-badged Toyotas..it was solely a strategy for the US market to compete with Acura,Infiniti etc...


Correct.

 
nick2020 2016-09-07 10:18:54 

In reply to sudden

so how was sleeping gas administered? through an open window ?


You would know it is the custom of old school Bajans to sleep with a window open. The premise is the gas man feeds a tube thru the window with some kind of exotic gas that is far more special than sleeping gas because it is paralyzing the victims.

the next one...Family got gassed..week before World Cup 2007..


sudden I doan know how you got so much time for that one powen.

 
sudden 2016-09-07 10:26:25 

In reply to nick2020

i must confess i never heard of this gas thing until now. again i must ask did it really happen?

 
nick2020 2016-09-07 10:52:34 

In reply to sudden

File that under steel donkey, baku, and powen being a ladies man.

 
DAVE400 2016-09-07 11:10:46 

Every time I pay my taxes...

 
camos 2016-09-07 11:16:09 

In reply to bravos

Dude! since 2007 Lexus are sold in Japan as Lexus, what the Japanese will do is sell a car that is similar to their luxury models ,with certain lesser features like : diff, interior finish, paint job etc. under Toyota brand, even in the US .

 
bravos 2016-09-07 11:32:25 

In reply to camos

Pal you talking as if Lexus set the standard for Toyota...the most prestigious Toyota in Japan isn't a Lexus.

 
black 2016-09-07 11:44:08 

In reply to bravos

..the most prestigious Toyota in Japan isn't a Lexus.


That might be true for a particular model but Lexus is their most prestigious line.

Why fix it if it ain't broke? The Toyota Camry is Toyota's best selling car but I would not use prestige to describe it.

 
bravos 2016-09-07 12:04:57 

In reply to black

Pal I'm saying that in the home of Toyota it is a Toyota that remains the most prestigious of all vehicles manufactured by Toyota,and not a Lexus,the Japs are the parents of Lexus and they know it's just a nickname and a facade to appeal to a certain market sector,it was a great idea,but I'm simply saying that in the household it is certain Toyotas that hold the prestige and not Lexus as was intended for other markets,that's all I'm saying,in other words they not falling for their own gimmick and the market philosophy of the brand being released in Japan is different from the intended initial strategy of the brand as it relates to other markets.

In Japan it was more like 'what the hell let's sell them in Japan too'...and I expect a niche,people who live in Japan and have felt deprived of owning the brand causing a sorta curiosity and desire..

 
nick2020 2016-09-07 12:11:32 

In reply to bravos

You own a Toyota?

 
black 2016-09-07 12:40:07 

In reply to bravos

It could be one of two things.

1. The model you listed has established a foothold in that market and it's hard to displaced it. But again, why fix what is working?

2. They (manufacturer) have not pushed the Lexus line as hard in Japan or the Toyota car is just as Luxurious.

 
bravos 2016-09-07 12:50:39 

In reply to nick2020

Dad had a Royal Saloon and plenty Toyota work vehicles years ago,sis had a Cressida and Rav-4,brother has a Prado,wifey has a 2011 Rav-4,still going great after almost 5 years,upgrading her in the near future,not looking at a Toyota though,lol....

I like the Lexus brand also but for the price here you can go Euro instead of paying all that for a TOYOTA!!Lol..having said that Land Cruisers and Crowns damn expensive here too!! it's the same paradox a sin Japan,Lexus ain automatically more prestigious in our markets especially when you have Land cruisers and Crowns available..

 
bravos 2016-09-07 12:51:09 

In reply to black

#3 A Lexus is a Toyota.

Laterz.

 
nick2020 2016-09-07 13:09:54 

In reply to black

don't mind your thread being derailed?

 
bravos 2016-09-07 13:11:45 

In reply to nick2020

It's now about Toyota on Toyota crime.. lol

 
black 2016-09-07 13:12:35 

In reply to bravos

lol lol

 
black 2016-09-07 13:13:34 

In reply to nick2020

don't mind your thread being derailed?


What can I do about it?

 
powen001 2016-09-07 18:03:31 

In reply to bravos

Gassed? They put them to sleep?? shock


Im a light sleeper...and funny enough I fell asleep that night with my head at the foot of the bed...

Police confirmed that they pumped some gas into our bedroom through the slightly opened baby window.


Police it was a good thing given my disposition to respond...

still get upset thinking about it..

We got the wifes car back btw...they stole her radio out of the car...found it in greenfields in Bridgetown..a known hot spot.

 
powen001 2016-09-07 18:08:27 

In reply to nick2020

i just read the thread..

you really major in minor crap...

the thread about crime and you get distracted by Xmas tree lights...

you are a freak...

Did you actually graduate????

 
sudden 2016-09-07 18:11:53 

In reply to powen001

Greenfields ummm. Isn't that where you used to hang out after school?

 
black 2016-09-07 19:02:43 

In reply to powen001

the thread about crime and you get distracted by Xmas tree lights...

you are a freak...

Did you actually graduate????

Nick is a weird dude. lol

 
bravos 2016-09-07 19:35:57 

In reply to powen001

Phew thank 'God' dey ain molest yuh bro.. surprised

 
black 2016-09-07 20:51:38 

In reply to bravos

What does the law in T&T say in regards to self defense?

Are civilians allowed to legally carry a weapon?

 
nick2020 2016-09-07 21:35:57 

In reply to bravos

Would you be able to theorize how someone could pump gas thru someone's bedroom window with some kind of neurotoxin thus rendering everyone in it unconscious? Enough to fill a whole room?

This gas is odorless and colorless?

And the most mystifying thing about this is if person(s) are going about doing this why the police did not alert the public? I cud do a google search and find powen on the internet but not a thing on people getting gassed in Barbados.

 
nick2020 2016-09-07 21:38:03 

In reply to powen001

I scraped by.

It tells me graduating with flying colours and scraping by is no measure of common sense as one gets older. lol

 
bravos 2016-09-07 21:41:08 

In reply to black

But you know I always strapped and I think I posted my semi-auto pistol aiming at doe here..Yeah you have to get an FUL (Firearm Users Licence),very hard to get,I got mine after appealing refusal and after the guy got shot at my business place...I used that to help make my case..but generally any tief or bandit is fair game,and if your case looking shaky the police would fill in the gaps for you!

Civilian with FUL giving statement after shooting incident with police typing:"He was reaching for a gun and I opened fire and the suspect fell to the ground"

Senior Police officer 'repeating' what you just dictated: "He fired shots at me and I was fearful for my life and with fear I fearfully returned fire and when I reopened my eyes I saw the suspect falling to the ground"

Civilian: "Huh"

Senior Officer:" He fired shots at me and I was fearful................." wink

Civilian: "He fired shots at me and I was fearful................" wink

They're the best I tell you! For cutlass attack remove 'shot's insert 'chops'!! big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin

Case closed on site...get yuh gun back,ride out>>>>>

They can even fix a mow down with yuh car for you too...he probably 'fired' at your car (and obviously missed),and fearing for your life you made an evasive maneuver and when you came out the car he was nowhere to be seen and then you realized he was pinned under said car' and appeared deceased',lol,fleeing bandits have been mowed down here in the past...wink

Sorry but no love for armed bandits here..sometimes they drop/lose their guns and get beaten to death,happened recently in a bar..mom said they didn't have to beat him so bad,felt sorry for the yute but he probably killed already or would've eventually..

 
black 2016-09-07 21:59:33 

In reply to bravos

I am not a friend of criminals but what if someone wrongfully claim self defense?

What if someone accuse you of pulling a gun and then gun you down?

Don't get me wrong, this is not about defending criminals, it's about police interpretation of events.

 
bravos 2016-09-07 22:12:11 

In reply to black

Nah expected that question,anything else but a bandit and you are a goner and so is your FUL..even if you just present the weapon without good reason..and in a case like that all the witnesses coming forward to send you down,you ain no badman...no FUL man taking a chance with that,easier to get your bad man fren to handle that,something I would never part take in...many have lost their guns for making bad decisions and then trying to cover it up with false reports,even an off-duty policeman opened fire on some men that were beating him in drunken brawl outside a bar,and then said they were robbing him of his chain,he's in jail as I type..no bail..

 
black 2016-09-07 23:08:32 

In reply to bravos

Ok Pal, if you say so! Stealing your line. lol

 
mikesiva 2016-09-08 05:05:25 

In reply to black

I was racially abused by a couple of white thugs a decade ago when I first moved to this part of south Hertfordshire, where I still live. The police recorded it as a hate crime, and despite the occasional update, nothing came of it. Now, with more non-whites moving into the area over the past decade, this area has become a more tolerable place for people like me to live in. Neighbours on both sides of my house are not white or English, and they're the best neighbours I've ever had in this country.

Has this experience changed my views in any way? Well, when I first moved to England, it was out of frustration with the way things didn't work properly in Jamaica, and I was under the illusion that the UK was a country that ran better. I was also under the illusion that I would be competing on a level playing field with white people in this country.

Well, that experience was the start of my wake-up call....

 
black 2016-09-08 08:16:40 

In reply to mikesiva


I was racially abused by a couple of white thugs a decade ago when I first moved to this part of south Hertfordshire, where I still live. The police recorded it as a hate crime, and despite the occasional update, nothing came of it. Now, with more non-whites moving into the area over the past decade, this area has become a more tolerable place for people like me to live in. Neighbours on both sides of my house are not white or English, and they're the best neighbours I've ever had in this country.


The World has seen a lot of changes but there are some that are comfortable with the way it use to be.


Has this experience changed my views in any way? Well, when I first moved to England, it was out of frustration with the way things didn't work properly in Jamaica, and I was under the illusion that the UK was a country that ran better. I was also under the illusion that I would be competing on a level playing field with white people in this country.

Well, that experience was the start of my wake-up call....


Interesting perspective from someone I consider to be successful.

 
powen001 2016-09-08 16:07:16 

In reply to nick2020

clearly you dont know what s going on...I have clients who have been burgled exactly like this...

ONe of the top forensic officers on the island happens to be an old school mate who came here and confirmed it.


I have been a country boy all my life..accustomed to sleeping with windows and doors open for years...


My first thought when I woke up was how my head felt...then i heard my wife asking me ..where is her car...then i knew something was up...

THe baby at the time was fine..they came thru her window.

 
black 2016-09-08 16:43:51 

In reply to powen001

Bajans are some creative criminals. lol lol lol