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I am not ready to jump on the K Powell ....

 
Toney 2017-02-04 21:31:06 

bandwagon until he shows me that he can make runs against two half decent attacks of the Yardies and Barbados.

So far, Powell's 3 centuries have come against pyah Pyah bowling that would struggle to get "Boycott's Grandmuda" out, much less club-class batsmen of most cricketing nations.

 
WestDem 2017-02-04 21:37:03 

Shameful Fcuking people allyuh are! Apart from KP, KB and de Tiger, who you think are the batsmen that standing out?

 
Narper 2017-02-04 21:51:44 

In reply to Toney

Whoose bandwagon are you going to jump on?....Chandrika, Hetmyer, Shai Hope, John Campbell, Devon Smith, Johnson Charles,Theophile..???

For me...anybody who mekkin runs consistently...and getting wickets consistently...I am on their wagon...regardless who dem playing

If yuh can't mek runs against "pyah pyah ' bowling how yuh go expect to mek against top class bowling

This doesn't mean...these guys going to world beaters in their next international match.

Powell is 26 years old with 3 test tons....potential to be good enough at the highest level

 
Judgement 2017-02-04 21:51:45 

In reply to WestDem Exactly. I mean its not like Powell hasn't performed at international level already and broken records right? Lol. Just like Brathwaite's century against ICC Americas means nothing right? I mean its not like both players and Shiv haven't been international stars already right? Lol.

Those so-called half decent Barbados and Jamaica players haven't even scored anywhere close to Powell, Brathwaite and Tiger against that "pyah pyah" bowling so what in the name does that say about these so-called "half decent" teams LOL! People just want any excuse to be bad mind.

 
timeless99 2017-02-05 05:10:48 

This 50 overs competition has been very disappointed if you ask your self who is the top 5 batsman expected to score runs both brawaith and Powell would be there nd shiv. Kb at the top of the odi line up is a defensive move if he can't score at a decent clip against those bowlers good luck against the likes of stokes and Jordan. Powell is a class batsman but he has not really been tested it a slow pitch I will like to see him on a pitch with a bit of pace and bounce facing 90mph am not saying he would failcz he is class but it would show if he is ready for intl cricket once more

 
mikesiva 2017-02-05 06:40:48 

In reply to Toney

Powell has made runs in the regional super 50 so IMHO he deserves a recall to the odi side.

However his performance in the PCL is mediocre at best. At the halfway stage of the PCL, he averages 33. He needs to score more runs in the second half of the PCL in order to merit a recall ahead of Anthony Alleyne, for example.

 
Courtesy 2017-02-05 08:02:31 

Messieurs, messiers, please ease up on Toney. I have a feeling that he forgot that Powell has international experience.

And I am hopeful that he will post just that, sooner rather than later. Let's not beat up on Toney just yet.

big grin

WestDem, you bully.

lol lol lol

 
Runs 2017-02-05 08:09:48 

KP KG and SC in my one day WI squad cool

 
Emir 2017-02-05 10:02:22 

In reply to Toney

I believe he has done enough as a batter to warrant a recall, I do however want to see him make runs against Bim and Jam. Against Trinidad C team, he was outfoxed.

But that aside, what bothers me about him, is not his batting credentials. It is his attitude. I remain shocked at his lack of humbleness and recently his personal comments about his religious belief- this should be private and it should have no place in the WI team.

He has yet to smile since his recall, it is like he is against the world, this could not be good for any team he is playing.

I want to see him back in WI colors, he has a lot to offer, he is talented, young and has ability.

But, but, someone needs to have a very serious chat with him, about his attitude about diversity in the WI about learning to be humble and sportsmanlike.

 
Gun_Play 2017-02-05 10:13:52 

In reply to Emir

I think you're reading too much into his comments.

When he said the trinis didn't beat them they lost the game he just meant there was no way his team should have lost from that position.

In my opinion, that comment was in no way meant to undermine the trini performance.

Why do you want to see him smiling? rolleyes

 
Emir 2017-02-05 11:11:13 

In reply to Gun_Play

I think you're reading too much into his comments.


You have to judge folks by their words- how will he interact with those Trinis who make the WI team?

Why do you want to see him smiling?


It will show he is mentally prepared to return to WI colors- his demeanor is one of him against the world. This is worrisome.

He has got to relax, be cool, calm and collected

You also ignore his recent marker- his deep expression of his religious belief- when a person make those comments outside of his private life, it is a battle mark.

He is entitled to his belief, but it must be private, it has no place in the office and for him make that comment while representing the LI is not appropriate. How will he get along with players in the WI team who don't share his ideology?

I am telling you, his issue is not cricket- he has talent, he is batting well, making runs.

I am worried about his attitude and his ability to get along in a team environment.

 
cricketfreak 2017-02-05 13:07:08 

In reply to Toney
So let me ask you something , the other players are not they facing the same kind of bowling ? so why not they score runs against them like Powell ? if you do not have anything good to say please shut up .

 
XDFIX 2017-02-05 13:24:36 

In reply to cricketfreak

I am no spokesperson for Toney, but all the man is saying he would like to see Powell against the best attack!

I find the observation and the call reasonable and a point I already spouted here.

Let's see how well the little upstart Pre-Madonna does, a reasonable ask to be honest!

 
voiceofreason 2017-02-05 21:30:50 

In reply to Emir

He is entitled to his belief, but it must be private, it has no place in the office and for him make that comment while representing the LI is not appropriate. How will he get along with players in the WI team who don't share his ideology?


First of all he was asked a question on what is the reason for his new found focus and form and answered among other things that Jesus Christ his savior, wife, family, coaches, players. What is your problem?? He was just answering the question he was asked and his personal inspiration not intended to impose his ideology on anyone.

Your beef with him lies in his response to another post-game question vs TNT where he rightly said TNT did not beat us, we beat ourselves and what is wrong with that? He has always been the serious type, that is his personality. You Trinis always whinging about something. BTW he is captaining a multi- national team which happens to be doing very well in the competition.

 
voiceofreason 2017-02-05 21:39:35 

In reply to Toney

bandwagon until he shows me that he can make runs against two half decent attacks of the Yardies and Barbados.


Fair enough and that time will come soon. Until then he can continue to pile up the runs against the lesser attacks.

 
cricketfreak 2017-02-05 21:40:00 

In reply to voiceofreason
Is he not doing what the selectors want ? let them talk VOR .

 
cricketfreak 2017-02-05 21:43:46 

In reply to Emir
You should be more worried about lil Bravo attitude .

 
timeless99 2017-02-06 04:16:53 

Powell is not out there to make friends so if he smile or not shod not be an issue looming at him.bat he looks like a man on a mission he still gets those brain frezze his dismissal against Trinidad was shocking wen he had things under control. It would be nice to see him score runs againsta better attack but he can only play what's infront of him can't blame him he should walk right back in the odi team Kb on the other hand I think he needs to score faster let's be honest he not really a natural gifted batsman he is a hard worker he needs a get out of jail kind of short so his Sr an be in the 80's atleast

 
POINT 2017-02-06 07:12:50 

I get the impression that some people have Agendas , that aint so very hidden .

 
natty_forever 2017-02-06 08:26:53 

In reply to Judgement

Those so-called half decent Barbados and Jamaica players haven't even scored anywhere close to Powell, Brathwaite and Tiger against that "pyah pyah" bowling so what in the name does that say about these so-called "half decent" teams LOL! People just want any excuse to be bad mind.
... could be because they haven't played these pyah pyah teams. other zone.

 
Scar 2017-02-06 08:53:13 

In reply to Toney

You mean KP has never scored Tons or runs vs world class bowling? And here I was thinking that India at #1 was top class bowling in India too boot! Shame on me!

 
aliaskid13 2017-02-06 12:31:03 

In reply to Toney

It's not like if he's the only one who got a chance to play against the "pyah Pyah bowling". But he's the only one who has consitenly made good scores. The only other batsman that looks anywhere near his class in this competition is K Brathwaite. And i'm sure brathwaite would be honored just to be able to watch him batting from the non-striker's end.

 
Narper 2017-02-06 12:57:25 

In reply to aliaskid13

The only other batsman that looks anywhere near his class in this competition is K Brathwaite


Ole man Shiv nah count?

 
Judgement 2017-02-06 13:12:00 

In reply to voiceofreason

Exactly. Not only that, his so-called "unsmiling" self is the same Captain that opened the door for Cooper and Hosein (last time i checked both Trinidadian) to make way into his Leewards team. Yes, apparently they approached him directly to play for the Hurricanes. So this Emir's comments are literally ridiculous smh. And if he wants to talk about attitude, did he catch what Captain Ramdin was saying to Powell via stump cam during that match?! One only has to go on Ramdin's social media to note how he has a gripe with EVERYONE.

Like seriously? How the heck can someone tell about a player's mental attitude based on a few hours he has seen him on a TV?? So does that mean the scary looking, unsmiling Alzarri Joseph also needs to be humbled? Were Curtly Ambrose or Richie Richardson known to be smiley types? I think not.

Powell is actually one of the most humble players you will meet. Unlike Daren Sammy or Darren Bravo who have two of the worst attitudes you will encounter. Yes you read correctly re the "ever-smiling" Sammy. Always smiling but is one of the worst troublemakers in the game and most of these folks don't even know it - there is a reason he was ostracized by the likes of Gayle and Dwayne Bravo for a long time (bet you didn't know all that Emir!) so please do not sprout nonsense based on what someone LOOKS like - that would be termed prejudice.

And as for Powell's beliefs, you clearly don't see much of how often the other players talk about God and the Lord in all their daily social media posts. Sammy has done it on the world stage NUMEROUS times. Carlos Brathwaite credits the Lord with saving his mother from a terminal illness, all the time. Grammy and Oscar nominees/winners thank the Lord whenever they take to a stage and their speeches are broadcasted to billions. WI team always say a prayer on the field in front of hundreds of thousands before they take to the field - have you got selective, hateful blinkers on mate?? If anyone has a terrible and extremely one-sided mental attitude its you Emir.

 
aliaskid13 2017-02-06 13:12:23 

In reply to Narper

I consider Shiv to be in a class by himself at this stage of his career, for various reasons.

 
Judgement 2017-02-06 13:17:38 

In reply to aliaskid13

Exactly. Thank god there are some intelligent people on here big grin

 
Judgement 2017-02-06 13:22:19 

In reply to timeless99

Exactly. My point is, all the others from the better teams are also facing the same sorts of opposition right now so what is THEIR excuse (despite being around the past 2 years) and Powell is still top of the rankings? What about Dowrich, Johnson, Chandrika, Hope, Charles, Ramdin and co facing all the lesser teams? Why can't they score anywhere close particularly given that they are also playing international cricket so the domestic circuit should be a piece of cake to them? If you are going to nitpick, at least nitpick everyone shock

 
camos 2017-02-06 13:47:13 

there was never any doubt about Powell's abilities, his mental condition was what took him out of the game, is he ready to come back?

 
voiceofreason 2017-02-06 13:48:25 

In reply to Judgement

Daren Sammy or Darren Bravo who have two of the worst attitudes you will encounter. Yes you read correctly re the "ever-smiling" Sammy. Always smiling but is one of the worst troublemakers in the game and most of these folks don't even know it - there is a reason he was ostracized by the likes of Gayle and Dwayne Bravo for a long time (bet you didn't know a


Really?

 
Judgement 2017-02-06 13:49:48 

In reply to camos

What mental condition? Taking time out for a personal reason could be that his mother was sick? You are assuming because you want to assume the worst. And if you can bat three centuries and beat everyone else to the top of the rankings after you are out of cricket for 2 years, please continue to speak big grin

 
Judgement 2017-02-06 13:50:10 

In reply to voiceofreason Oh yes lol.

 
camos 2017-02-06 13:52:33 

In reply to Judgement

please! the guy leave talking about obeahman and other shit,where were you?

sad

 
Judgement 2017-02-06 13:53:47 

In reply to camos Well considering i know the guy and most of his teammates, i would like you to prove what you are saying instead of talking through your ass? Quote where he said that? I am waiting.

 
voiceofreason 2017-02-06 14:01:02 

In reply to Judgement

I do not think it is a good idea to spread hearsay and assumptions on a player's character. The Man must have been doing something good to get his players to rally around him for not one but two World Cup championships.

 
Judgement 2017-02-06 14:01:56 

In reply to voiceofreason

I never publish hearsay. Only what i know to be fact knowing the player in question personally. And no one disparaged Sammy's ability as a Captain. But that does not take away from the fact that looks can be deceiving. After all, anyone can show any face they want to the public. Thus, proving the hypocrisy in what Emir is saying.

 
voiceofreason 2017-02-06 14:25:52 

In reply to Judgement

Only what i know to be fact knowing the player in question personally.


Knowing the player personally and knowing him based on what others say about him are two different things. Just be mindful of that. cool