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The unfit Cornwall

 
Kay 2017-02-27 16:44:43 

Mek 59 at 96.72

And hear dis .... he was one of only two bowlers who completed their 10 overs

10 1 39 1 3.90

Wot a ting!!! smile

 
Ridge 2017-02-27 17:03:10 

In reply to Kay
Plus the keeper put down an easy chance of
his bowling.

 
Narper 2017-02-27 17:14:23 

In reply to Kay

Dem not saying he is unfit.....dem saying he too fat.....that his size will embarrass dem...dem doan care how well he performs

 
Runs 2017-02-27 17:19:07 

In reply to Narper

If his fatness will embarrass them, how do they feel about the constant licks the slim fellas get? That is not embarrassing, I guess once we slim and tek licks it's better than being fat and blocking licks? What a thing eh lol
Sounds like a Tante Merle joke Fatboy blocking while Slimboys chupsing razz

 
Narper 2017-02-27 17:41:02 

In reply to Runs

Nah similar philosophy dem had about Shiv...

His batting stance embarass dem
He bat too slow...un West Indian like
He ONLY playing for not out
He too old...dem order him to retire

and 6 years after....they don't have single batsman to replace him...and dem looking now for investments wink

 
Ewart 2017-02-27 17:42:06 

In reply to Narper

dem saying he too fat.....that his size will embarrass dem




If dem really saying dat, den is pure foolishness dem talking.


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FuzzyWuzzy 2017-02-27 17:46:12 

In reply to Narper

At what age Shiv should retire?

 
Larr Pullo 2017-02-27 17:55:16 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

So a discussion about Cornwall is used as a thinly veiled ruse to bring the 42 year old Shiv into the conversation....smile

 
Narper 2017-02-27 17:56:52 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

In reply to Narper

At what age Shiv should retire?


Is there an age in the cricket laws to retire?

If yes....then Shiv should retire at that age

If no....then you can force retire him by dropping him if there are 3 or 4 top order batsmen better and consistently performing better than him

 
Narper 2017-02-27 17:58:39 

In reply to Larr Pullo

So a discussion about Cornwall is used as a thinly veiled ruse to bring the 42 year old Shiv into the conversation

Why de fcuk would I need a veiled ruse to even start a thread about Shiv...much less bring him into a conversation...eh Dumbass?

Don't judge me by your inherently low standards

And check yuh facts....Shiv retired by Opiss at 36 years old

 
Larr Pullo 2017-02-27 17:59:53 

In reply to Narper

FUCK YOU Yuh single issue skunthole!!!

 
Narper 2017-02-27 18:00:28 

In reply to Larr Pullo

HYM dutty stink kunt asshole !!!

 
sunfish 2017-02-27 18:09:18 

The salient point is being conveniently ignored by some, overweight folk are susceptible to heart disease, hypertension and stroke. QED.

 
sgtdjones 2017-02-27 18:13:11 

In reply to sunfish

The pommies have seen Cornwall. They have aplan for him.

If he is selected. They will hit the ball in his direction.Easy runs.

This is where he will be a liability.

What fielding position will he be an asset ? rolleyes rolleyes

 
tc1 2017-02-27 19:12:40 

In reply to Ridge

I thought he was the best gloveman in the Caribbean

 
tc1 2017-02-27 19:15:48 

In reply to Narper

Weekes and Walcott retired at 32 and 31

 
Tagwa1 2017-02-27 20:21:31 

In reply to Kay

Nah Meh Fren....Its THE TOO FAT CORNWALL.

The irony and ignorance surrounding this issue is amazing to me. But I understand it because I have embarrassed myself until I learned that fat and fit and health are not straight line and simple relationships that most people believe.

Its one of the reasons I've been so passionate about this. These errors can be costly for the athletes if ignoramuses - as I was - have their way.

Individuals, physical routines, body structures and cultures all have so much to do with fitness...and you cant see that by simply looking at a person.

God Speed Young man.

 
Tagwa1 2017-02-27 20:27:21 

In reply to sgtdjones

Shouldnt really be answering but...


The pommies have seen Cornwall. They have aplan for him. If he is selected. They will hit the ball in his direction.Easy runs. This is where he will be a liability. What fielding position will he be an asset ?


Why haven't all the other teams he played against for years been hitting the ball towards him?

 
sgtdjones 2017-02-27 20:32:02 

In reply to Tagwa1

How many times has he played England, SA, Australia, India etc

I am torking dem best teams , not the A tours etc.

Where are u gonna hide him? shock

 
Tagwa1 2017-02-27 20:47:45 

In reply to sgtdjones

You never really played this game at any level eh.

Who looks at who's fielding where to hit the ball to them? Guy stop your ignorance.

anyway my fault to be even discussing a foolish fake issue as the one you are raising.

 
sgtdjones 2017-02-27 21:17:58 

In reply to Tagwa1

Look at the 50 game recently that T&T played

get the tape and you will see cornwall running and trying to field balls hit
in his direction and how his captain kept moving him.

he couldn't run and bend down.

Brung please select him to play so I can show this person what I know .
razz razz

 
SirGarny 2017-02-27 21:30:13 

In reply to Runs
cricket.
Listen...Cornwall is a classic example of the continued failures that beset Windies Cricket....

International cricket has featured burly players before....notice I said burly....Inzammam Ul Haq, Merv Hughes, David Boon and Jacques Kalliss come to mind.

None of the aforementioned allowed their heft to keep them from playing consistent, quality cricket. Their statistics bear that out.

BUT INTERNATIONAL CRICKET HAS YET TO PRODUCE A PLAYER WITH THE LEVEL OF CORPULENCE THAT IS RAKIM CORNWALL. wink cry

 
Narper 2017-02-27 21:50:28 

In reply to tc1

In reply to Narper

Weekes and Walcott retired at 32 and 31


That was in de stone age....when life expectancy was 65

Do you believe Weekes would retire at 32 today?

 
Narper 2017-02-27 22:01:54 

Cornwall is delivering with bat and ball....match after match...what more can you ask of a young player.

Is he overweight...yes...he looks so....but...he is young enough...and I am sure with proper encouragement and guidance....he can lose the weight and become fitter and better....like ANY other player who would aspire to become fitter and better

He is performing well NOW.....why wait until he loses the weight....just to please some....who don't like HOW HE LOOKS ON THE FIELD

 
anandgb 2017-02-27 22:17:04 

In reply to Narper

Ditto.

 
positiveg 2017-02-28 06:19:03 

In reply to anandgb

It's funny that most people who cussing how he 'looks' on the field probably looks just as bad at their own jobs, and not performing as well.
We have this thing that folks have to fit a certain mold to be a certain way.
Imagine Cornwall's performance trumps so many other guys who 'looks' fitter than him. And also no one can deny that the guy hasn't lost weight.
I spoke to his coach from LI U-13 the guy has always been big and talented, most folks and Cornwall himself knows that he has to do more. I think that's why it was decided at the highest level to invest more in a proper fitness regime for him.
Funny thing though is that he (Cornwall) sees himself as a bowler, while the coaches feel he's a better batsman. Whatever it is he's a very good all rounder and will only get better once he's exposed to the game at the highest level.


edit, Thanks Larr - No one can deny that the guy has lost weight

 
Larr Pullo 2017-02-28 07:33:13 

In reply to positiveg

And also no one can deny that the guy hasn't lost weight.

You're right, he hasn't!

 
positiveg 2017-02-28 07:35:32 

In reply to Larr Pullo

Ok so i made an error and you caught it. Thanks.
No one can deny that he has lost weight.

 
voiceofreason 2017-02-28 08:52:11 

In reply to positiveg

It's funny that most people who cussing how he 'looks' on the field probably looks just as bad at their own jobs,


Well in truth most people like you and I are not being paid to stay fit and perform at professional sports levels. An athlete's body is his most valuable asset as an athlete being unfit can lead to him being injury prone.It would be in Conrwall's best interest to lose some weight as that would prevent him from sustaining frequent injuries especially with the rigors of international cricket EG. Rampaul, Sarwan.

Funny thing though is that he (Cornwall) sees himself as a bowler, while the coaches feel he's a better batsman.


According to this interview he fancies his batting:

“I am never satisfied batting at number seven for the Leeward Islands. I think it’s just a role the team wants me to play and probably hold up the lower order. But for me, I would probably love to bat at number five for Leeward Islands and put in the works in the nets, because I am more a genuine batsman than a bowler. But of late, the bowling has been working for me. I think that once I get my thing


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Veracity 2017-02-28 09:00:53 

In reply to Tagwa1

You did not the watch the second Super50 Semi-final. Pride hit the ball to Cornwall and run routinely while was fielding at Mid-on/Wide-Mid wicket. He was moved (hidden) to short fine leg, and they did the same.
Just saying ....

 
sgtdjones 2017-02-28 10:24:48 

In reply to Veracity

Notice they didn't see that.

The kid is a liability on the field , hit that ball a few feet from him
and you get runs. They just have to look at the recent 50 tourney videos.

 
Baje 2017-02-28 10:49:37 

In reply to Kay
Cornwall is moving forward.
He made he A team..despite his size..and performed very well
He just made the Presidents 11 team

I am sure that there is a lot of debate about his weight, but he is moving through the system, towards international duty.

 
positiveg 2017-02-28 11:03:12 

In reply to voiceofreason

He loves bowling bad, maybe one reason why he doesn't bat higher is because he throws his hand away most times when he bats. So if he was to put more into it maybe he'll be a #5. But he would just go for a big hit and come down and bowl 15 on the trot.
the coaches recognise that and that could really be one reason why he bats so low.
the way I see it he's got genuine talent and I rather see him as a batsman cause he hits the ball all around the field, and can come in turn over his hands give the team some wickets, cause many people take his bowling for granted.
About the liability in the filed. much better fielder than Narine, who's skinnier than him by the way. Very good slip fielder. And as far as being paid to play, wouldn't you say he's earning his paycheque?

 
Baje 2017-02-28 14:50:37 

In reply to positiveg

the way I see it he's got genuine talent and I rather see him as a batsman cause he hits the ball all around the field, and can come in turn over his hands give the team some wickets


From what I have seen of him, he is primarily a bowler. It is very difficult for that style of batting to succeed at intl level. As a wicket taker who can bat a bit, I can see him pushing Chase out of all rounder position.
As a batsman who gets one or two wickets, he will not make the test team anytime soon.

 
natty_forever 2017-02-28 14:51:30 

In reply to sgtdjones... then place him on the leg side and bowl outside off.

 
natty_forever 2017-02-28 14:52:25 

In reply to positiveg... is he big or not? Are they cussing or stating a fact?

 
natty_forever 2017-02-28 14:53:40 

In reply to Veracity... them boys caan bowl.

 
SirGarny 2017-03-01 23:25:53 

In reply to Narper

Cornwall is delivering with bat and ball....match after match...what more can you ask of a young player.


Thinner, fitter cricketers aren't half as productive as Cornwall....much to their shame. Therein lies the tragedy!

evil evil

 
CricketLuva4 2017-03-02 08:17:00 

In reply to positiveg

The fittest I remember him looking was in the CPL in 2013, he doesn't look up to that right now.

 
ProWI 2017-03-04 20:48:41 

In reply to Narper

I say, play him now. Who cares if he's overweight, if he delivers the goods

 
tc1 2017-03-04 21:26:48 

In reply to Narper

Name me a player at 42 thinking of playing international cricket. Life is too short ..there are career path after sport.

 
natty_forever 2017-03-04 21:47:08 

The thing is most here would pick him in any eleven selected based on performance. So what's up selecta

 
Narper 2017-03-04 22:13:59 

In reply to tc1

Name me a player at 42 thinking of playing international cricket.


Misbah ul Haq is still the cappo of Pakistan at 42 years old

42 years Brad Hodge is also doing well in T20

You like to bring up ole time cricketers....so tell me.....at what age did George Headley play his last test match???....I will help you....he was 45 years old

Headley