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HEADLINE: Rajindra Dhanraj joins as Spin Bowling Consultant ahead of ODIs vs Pakistan

 
CaribbeanCricket.com Apr 5, 2017, 5:08:40 AM 

GEORGETOWN, Guyana – The West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) announced that Rajindra Dhanraj has joined the West Indies Men’s team coaching staff as Spin Bowling Consultant.

The former West Indies leg-break and googly bowler will work with the team in the build-up to the Brighto Paints presents the Q Mobile Cup ODI series against Pakistan in Guyana. He will return ahead of the start of the Brighto Paints presents the Q Mobile Cup Test Series in Jamaica later this month.

Jimmy Adams, the WICB Director of Cricket said: “We welcome Rajindra to the West Indies team group. We’re delighted he has agreed to come and work with our players. He has a wealth of knowledge on the game and we know he will make a great contribution.”

Adams added: “He will be spending time with our slow bowlers prior to both the One-Day Series in Guyana and start of the Test series in Jamaica as we look to improve and enhance their skills.”

Dhanraj, 48, was one of the leading bowlers in regional cricket in the late 1980s and 1990s. He took 295 wickets in 78 first-class matches and also played four Tests and six ODIs for the West Indies between 1994 and 1996


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Raggs Apr 5, 2017, 8:16:39 AM 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

he is da best wi gat fah dat post?

 
Narper Apr 5, 2017, 8:31:32 AM 

Calling Courtesy....

Dem reading...and implementing

Over to Bishoo wink

 
Emir Apr 5, 2017, 2:37:23 PM 

In reply to Raggs

he is da best wi gat fah dat post?


Fair question but if you want to be fair, you should ask the same question about the coach, the captain, the entire WICBC board and Ediot Cameron and the territory boards.

 
Courtesy Apr 5, 2017, 2:42:16 PM 

In reply to Narper

Glad for Bishoo.

I would like to see the continuous focus on the under 19 spinners and younger though.

Get a pool of serious committed spinners to learn the art.

Got to give WICB credit again.

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Dave more of this and I will soon be singing your praises.

I know you take time off to read this MB.

lol lol lol

 
Narper Apr 5, 2017, 2:48:00 PM 

BCL must have endorsed his youth days buddy Dhanraj

 
Narper Apr 5, 2017, 2:50:46 PM 

In reply to Courtesy

I know you take time off to read this MB.


That is a good thing.

Stuart Law better read too...

Look like they have decided to clip Brung's wings too

 
TheTrail Apr 5, 2017, 2:55:22 PM 

In reply to Courtesy

I would rather have Lance Gibbs teaching them how to bowl rather than this guy.

Maybe he is there to teach Bishoo how to bowl the googly and nothing else.

 
Courtesy Apr 5, 2017, 3:21:25 PM 

In reply to TheTrail

Lance was an offie.

Easier to learn how to bowl off spin on your own.

Dhanraj had plenty variety as a leggie.

 
Courtesy Apr 5, 2017, 3:23:50 PM 

In reply to Narper

I hope Mr. Law reads it as well.

Most of dem take a peep.

 
Narper Apr 5, 2017, 3:26:06 PM 

In reply to Courtesy

If Dinas Ramnarine was not persona non grata with WICB he would have had the job

 
Courtesy Apr 5, 2017, 3:28:30 PM 

In reply to Narper

If Dinas Ramdarine was not persona non grata with WICB he would have had the job


lol lol lol

I know Dinas can light a fire under de ass of the WICB not sure he can light one under Bishoo.

big grin

DINAS for President of the TTCB.

He reads this MB too...or he is directed to read certain things by persons on this MB.

 
Narper Apr 5, 2017, 3:31:29 PM 

In reply to Courtesy

DINAS for President of the TTCB.

Looks like he can't light a fire under the La Basse Rat...who like Cameron was....is poised for a 3rd term

 
Courtesy Apr 5, 2017, 3:32:34 PM 

In reply to Narper

Once Donas gets over the constitutional hurdle he will be Pres.

Dinas boy, de Courtesy in your corner.

big grin

 
Kay Apr 5, 2017, 5:19:13 PM 

Dhanraj? Whey WI does come up wid these names from?

This guy must be the best the money they are offering for the position can buy.....

 
Scar Apr 5, 2017, 6:42:32 PM 

Your success as player doesnt automatically convert into being the best or a successful coach. Some of the best coaches were average players who were not blessed with an abundance of talent but worked hard at being technically sound. They bring that sound technical aspect to the players. Former stars are known to be impatient since they look at players through their own past accomplishments and expect to see themselves. Remember Serena's coaches were not top tennis stars.

 
Bestian Apr 5, 2017, 6:51:19 PM 

The current South African coach wasn't a fantastic test player now was he?

 
TheTrail Apr 5, 2017, 7:02:39 PM 

In reply to Courtesy


Dhanraj had plenty variety as a leggie.


I know Gibbs was an offie.

How come this bowler Dhanraj could not hold his spot in the WI team if he had all these varieties?

1994 to 1996

 
johndom90 Apr 5, 2017, 10:18:23 PM 

In reply to TheTrail

One reason is he had a mutt of a captain in Richie Richardson.

 
doosra Apr 5, 2017, 11:14:59 PM 

like Nagamootoo after him, played every single match in a different series in a different country


v New Zealand St John's 27 Apr 1996
v England Nottingham 10 Aug 1995
v New Zealand Wellington 10 Feb 1995
v India Mumbai 18 Nov 1994


St Johns for a leggie

Mumbai for a West Indian Leggie

Wellington for a leggie,

Nottingham for a leggie

what a run (out of the runnings)
big grin

 
Khaga Apr 6, 2017, 12:14:42 AM 

In reply to doosra

That was the apartheid era for West Indian spinners of certain type?

 
Narper Apr 6, 2017, 4:14:53 AM 

Dhanraj played FC cricket when it was not dung heap....he bowled legbreak/googly to real batsmen...he took 295 wickets from 78 matches with an average of 27

As johndom90 pointed out...cappo Richarson did not know how to use him
As Doosra pointed out he played 4 tests ..each one in a different series.

He is appointed to help especially Bishoo....who has been severely neglected and left on his own for development.

In a recent post, I pointed out England have recently snapped up Saqlain for the English spinners

 
nissan Apr 6, 2017, 5:17:15 AM 

I always felt that Dhanraj was given a raw deal, even though we weren't as devoid of wicket takers as we are now.


Bit of shortsightedness really.

 
Discourse Apr 6, 2017, 5:38:12 AM 

In reply to TheTrail

It's nice, all well and good to revisit Dhan's brief stint with WI; but i fail to see why this should affect his engagement with the WICB and more importantly him assisting Bishoo surprised

 
Courtesy Apr 6, 2017, 6:26:51 AM 

A Dhanraj in today's era of West Indies cricket would have been gold dust.

The WICB should give him a long term contract working with the various regional teams as a travelling spin bowling coach.

Over to you Dave Cameron...one more consideration in the interest of West Indian cricket and an opportunity to put one more feather in your cap.

Best of luck to Davendra Bishoo...be like a sponge...please soak in and implement everything the wizard Dhanraj teaches you.

And practice, practice, practice.

 
goliath Apr 6, 2017, 7:14:35 AM 

In reply to Narper Where is Imtiaz Ali? smile

 
TheTrail Apr 6, 2017, 7:56:20 AM 

In reply to Discourse

In reply to Courtesy

I would rather have Lance Gibbs teaching them how to bowl rather than this guy.

Maybe he is there to teach Bishoo how to bowl the googly and nothing else.


Paraphrasing what I said to Courtesy...

Lance Gibbs would have been a preferred choice, IMHO, if they needed a real spinner who has been tried and tested on the world stage.

 
Courtesy Apr 6, 2017, 7:59:03 AM 

In reply to TheTrail

Lance Gibbs would have been a preferred choice, IMHO, if they needed a real spinner who has been tried and tested on the world stage.

Brother, you want an 83 year old man to be a spinning coach.

You have absolutely no mercy for geriatrics.

big grin

 
Narper Apr 6, 2017, 8:50:23 AM 

In reply to goliath

In reply to Narper Where is Imtiaz Ali?

I haven't heard anything about him in recent years

Rangy Nanan died recently

Inshan Ali died many years ago

Raphick Jumadeen had a brief stint as a WI selector a few years ago.

Ganesh Mahabir was a top class legspinner in the 1980s

 
Discourse Apr 6, 2017, 8:53:53 AM 

In reply to Courtesy

You have absolutely no mercy for geriatrics.

no mercy!!!
lol lol lol

 
Discourse Apr 6, 2017, 8:54:54 AM 

In reply to TheTrail

Maybe he is there to teach Bishoo how to bowl the googly and nothing else.


fair enough

 
Narper Apr 6, 2017, 9:02:12 AM 

Dhanraj played 6 ODIS

44 overs...10 wickets @17 each...ER 3.8 ...Best 4/26

 
Emir Apr 6, 2017, 9:05:38 AM 

In reply to Narper

Inshan Ali died many years ago


Really.. he died in June 1995. So it is only 23 years ago. Worrell died many years ago.
BTW, He had requested a visit from Lara the day before he died and Lara duly obliged. Sadly, Inshan's story is one of "rum till I die."


Raphick Jumadeen had a brief stint as a WI selector a few years ago.

Yes, and he did not do well as a selector- it was rumored that the chief selector and another member of the committee frustrated him.

He also did commentary some years ago, I thought he was decent but not sure why he faded.

Where is Imtiaz Ali?


Not sure as well, I knew his Mother. After cricket, he just faded entirely. When he made his debut in 1976 against India, she was mighty proud of him.

 
spider Apr 6, 2017, 12:02:50 PM 

In reply to Scar

Your success as player doesnt automatically convert into being the best or a successful coach. Some of the best coaches were average players who were not blessed with an abundance of talent but worked hard at being technically sound. They bring that sound technical aspect to the players. Former stars are known to be impatient since they look at players through their own past accomplishments and expect to see themselves. Remember Serena's coaches were not top tennis stars.


Many of us have a hard time understanding this. Same thing when Ambrose was replaced with Estwick. Many of us have a hard time understanding that great player doesn't automatically translate to great coach. It is probably even easier for the mediocre players to become good coaches

 
Maispwi Apr 6, 2017, 6:22:14 PM 

In reply to spider

Many of us have a hard time understanding this. Same thing when Ambrose was replaced with Estwick. Many of us have a hard time understanding that great player doesn't automatically translate to great coach.


Unfortunately the players also think like dat and will quicker listen to a coach who was a great player than an average one.

The first thing young players ask a new coach is if they played for the National Team

 
Scar Apr 6, 2017, 6:42:23 PM 

In reply to Courtesy

And the answer should be show me the long list of those who won soccer WC, NBA titles. Cricket WC titles. EPL titles eyc or lasted padt one season/year. Coaches technically are teachers really and that in itself takes a special type of temperament. How many great scientists were great teachers or Nobel Winners as well. Kinda like superstars hardly make great decision making captains; maybe symbolic ones though

 
Courtesy Apr 7, 2017, 4:03:04 AM 

Folks, let me remind allyuh that a valid argument is an argument where the premises are true and there is no way that the conclusion can be false.

Stop de fackeries here: "All great sportsmen make lousy coaches."

Premise (i) Viv is a bad coach.
Premise (ii) Great sporstmen make lousy coaches.
Premise (iii) The guy who played amateur tenis is a good coach.
.............

Consclusion: All great sportsmen make lousy coaches.

Allyuh tink everyone here is as uneducated as allyuh.

big grin

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Btw, best of luck to Bishoo today.