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Venue: Basin Reserve, Wellington

What they said:

In reply to Narper

We sharing licks tonight.

In reply to Gun_Play

Hola....like you showing up with AK's.....blazing taking no prisoners.
Adios
CB

NZ won toss ...will bowl

In reply to trev114

They expecting some assistance from this pitch?

In reply to KrishManohar

Whats the rest of the team?

In reply to jacksprat


Windies (Playing XI): Kraigg Brathwaite, Kieran Powell, Shimron Hetmyer, Shai Hope, Roston Chase, Sunil Ambris, Shane Dowrich(w), Jason Holder(c), Kemar Roach, Miguel Cummins, Shannon Gabriel

In reply to jacksprat

Driftwood is dropped. In comes Hety.

In reply to Maispwi

Would have loved to see Reifer find a place as a bowling all-rounder (possibly in place of Cummins).

In reply to Priapus

Might be good for Blackwood to play some more regional matches to find form (and work on shot selection and crease occupation).

Which TV channel showing the match

In reply to Nyabinghi & Maispwi

Thanks.

Any live video link?

In reply to jacksprat

If you happen to get a video link, please PM me

In reply to Timpy

Will do

In reply to Timpy

Anyone with a link please PM me

Any links, please let me know also. Thanks

This link works for me

Good first hour.
Braithwaite looks a little bit off his game. Beaten and cut open a few times but still there.

Powell looks very good. Needs to build!

In reply to Fahim

Silly quick single, had the fielder hit the stumps there would have been a run out. The guys are doing well, no need for that. Fifty partnership is up!

In reply to yardman83


Lucky boy. Does not look settled.

In reply to yardman83

Yeah. It was coming. Hetmyer needs this. Have faith in this kids talent.

Soft dismissal dat

Caught between two minds
Either duck or pull

In reply to Maispwi

Actually, Bishop called it. He kept saying they should put in a short leg. Eventually, they put in the short leg and he took the catch. Bishop knows his cricket.

Liking Hetmeyers Hand/eye coordination.

Looks better...so far.

lets see how he holds up under the grind of Test Cricket and being focused.

In reply to Narper

that was lazy from Powell...50 goes a begging...

Hety settling in...good positivity

what the ....???


mmmm....

since when we cant play short pitched bowling?



naah...

79 for 3. All three batsmen out caught to short balls aimed at the body.

cheesy went to nz?

In reply to Fivestar

Bish is a traitor. Why highlight and harp on not using a short leg? If de NZ think tank took so long to come up wid de plan, why aid dem.

In reply to Runs

Bro. To be fair, I was getting optimistic when KB and Powell weathered the first hour. Powell looked real good too.

But they flatter to deceive Better luck next time.

In reply to Maispwi

When I mention that to ppl they say I'm wrong.

WI commentators are the only ones I know who tell the opposition their batsmen weakness.

They all do it.

When he started to talk I was like WTF... Let the opposition find that out themselves!!!

What pappyshow is this Shai?

In reply to NineMiles

That was careless and school boyish.

this is all wagner can bowl...yet he is successful at it because of dunce batsmen.

In reply to Gun_Play

Ah doh mind if he had only mentioned it once but he kept bringing it up again and again until somebody must have passed the message on

In reply to Narper

Bro. Shai Hope was out five minutes ago.

In reply to Narper

ahm.

This could only mean one thing..Ambris will have a heck of a good career.

remember i said it here.

When it rains it pours, 80 for 5.

The team requires a confident steady voice to see them through this first innings...

A solid PAIR of bats has to do the talking.

In reply to Narper

Dude. Gotta feel for Sunil. Bacchus like.

When are we going to Australia again?

In reply to Narper

Just purchased ATN cricket for $10
a month. After one session and half hour after lunch I realized I am wasting $0.33 per day to watch these guys play cricket.Just called and cancelled it.
These guys are not worth a penny to watch.
Lol.

Better we send them all to Hooking School. Silly really. Wagner is too predictable. And so are the batsmen. Damn.

In reply to Narper

97 for 6 and all six batsmen out to the short pitched ball.

Holder goes first ball... What is happening here.

Calyso Collapso! Leh we go Kiwis!

Bring back Shiv

In reply to Pacy

Haha this West Indies side suck sooo much!!! Wickets tumbling in perfect batting conditions!

Wow! and Powell made batting look easy when he was there. This is so disappointing.

Sad state of affairs. But I find comfort that it is not only me. I have my fellow masochists here.

Hold strain bros. it will get better.

I was really looking forward to this tour - more so than any other for the last few years.

What an absolute embarrassment.

In reply to Star

Good point, with a low score Holder might have only 2 slips and everyone else in a run saving position.

In reply to runout

Aye. One day it will get better.

Maybe when we're dead.

But it will one day get better.

In reply to Star

We'll start with 4 men on the boundary.

Why would you back up so much in the last ball of the over when the one at the other end is a tail ender.

INCREDIBLE!!! ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE!

In reply to Norm

Y r absolutely right
For about 20 years now and counting

Bring back the players that can actually bat...

In reply to Drapsey

go bat for them/.?

In reply to Drapseywhat can a coach do???? This is basic cricketing mistakes. There is a reason for tagging players as professionals

In reply to Drapseywhat can a coach do???? This is basic cricketing mistakes. There is a reason for tagging players as professionals

In reply to clokey

I

All out an hour after lunch on the first day of a test match.
This will be another record

In reply to Seechy

I would not write then off in one innings. It is just an hour of struggle. May be the batsmen are too rattled.

This team has fought back in England. I would just put this to inexperience

All out an hour after lunch on the first day of a test match.
This will be another record

Bishop is not even playing to save their asses

In reply to Ridge

bishop talking about playing fast bowling yet

he is moutha prekke for some people only

Nawwwwwww we doh need Lil B

we gats players

WTS.

Cummins never see cricket play?

This is like watching my grandfather bat on Nintendo cricket.

In reply to Pacy

NZ will win by an innings and plenty...Unless something extraordinarily remarkable happens from here on out.

In reply to Narper

WE pass one hundred lets be happy

In reply to Acid

Dowrich hit a 3. He didn't take the single.

InsuLARR will say WI batsmen are unLUCKYSHOO.

In reply to Acid

Ok ok ok. I got you bro. I believe that he was thinking two.

In reply to Acid

Given the WI were yet to reach triple figures, he was probably just thinking that any run is a good run.

Mind you numbers 9 and 11 looks real comfortable. Go figure!!!!!!

In reply to runout

As is usually the way, just to lift the spirits of opposition batsmen.

In reply to clokey

The reason why Roach wanted that run was because that would have been his 1st run in 4 innings, he had 3 ducks in Zimbabwe.

In reply to dayne

Roachie needs to bat up the order.

In reply to dayne

Can we agree that lobbing a block to cover and starting on a run is pure stupidity, no matter the game situation?

One of many idiotic things to happen - no need to waste any more of our time on it.

WI famous for starting off tours this way

Ok. So now our 4 prong will take over. Is pace like fire.
Roachie and Angel will deliver hell.

come shannon give them hell...

In reply to jacksprat

Check your "inbox".

If WI bats were adept at hooking and pulling Wagner would be put out to pasture. He is bowling in the 130's. Even the Indians are quicker than him. And our Windies can't navigate that???????

In reply to Star

You can't make this stuff up. Harmless, full pitched bowling. Completely different fields to the NZ ones.

If I had hair left, I'd pull it out.

PUT A SHORT LEG IN. ATTACK THE RIBS.

It's a lack of professionalism. Pure and simple. Completely lack the ability to adjust within a game and come into a series physically and mentally prepared.

Every strong performance has to be "responding to criticism" - they can never be motivated to do well of their own fruition.

Geez, it's hard to follow this team. One step forward, five steps back.

I pity Stuart Law.

WOUNDIES WILL BE DESTROYED WITHIN 3 DAYS

Cricinfo AND on-ground commentators cant tell the difference between Roach and Cummins...

WOUNDIANS GOT EXCITED AND FOOLED BY THAT PRACTICE MATCH. FUNNY WOUNDIANS

WHAT A BLOW MY NZ

In reply to Narper

Simmons and Gibson are coaches.

Bishop is a commentator/spy, it seems.

All the WI commentators do it.

It's not something new nor have I just noticed it.

He's certainly building a brand, out there singing for his supper.

They didn't even have to ask him... He just sang.

I will say this again... WI commentators are the only ones who tell the opposition how to dismiss their players.

The others do commentary on the game that's being played.

Sarwan, before de man cud touch the ground, 'He likes hooking, but he doesn't play it well.'

Dwayne Smith, 'He loves it short, they should pitch it up outside off. He doesn't play many there'.

D. Bravo, 'He has problems with the short ball'.

Doing analysis of the game at hand is one thing... but setting the field for the opposition, that's a lovely addition.

Well done... build your brand.

Narps, when it happens again I will be sure to mention.

One up to Bishop, give he that Test match.

In reply to Gun_Play

That is some next-level dribble.

You think opposition coaches and analysts can't work out those weaknesses before Ian Bishop tells them in the commentary box?

You really think it took Ian Bishop to expose Dwayne Smith's batting technique?

He's doing his job as a commentator. He probably watches this team more live than any other media person in the world - he provides insights to viewers.

In reply to clokey

Here comes another pokey now that will say otherwise.

The proof is in the pudding!!!

You just saw a man harp on about a bat and pad for 30mins, the field changed to suit and the opposition gained success.

Are you that dense? what more is there to say???

By the way, I never said Bishop exposed Smith technique. Those were just some glaring examples of our commentators selling guns to the opposition.

In reply to jacksprat



Me too!





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In reply to Gun_Play


If you think Bishop is giving opposition teams (that can't hear is commentary) fielding placement tips, you should also look into the Flat Earth society.

I think you may find some good points in there

In reply to clokey

I would explain it but I'm pretty sure I'm wasting my time.

My grandmother use to say you can't convince a fool.

I apologies.

In reply to Gun_Play

Guns? We have guns?

In reply to Acid

I glad I didn't try to stay awake for this.

Just like Jamaica do for their football team,they look out for Brits who play football at any level in the UK,lets do the same for cricket,I have seen many club cricketers who could walk into county teams,but for reasons don't do so,get some of those players and try them for us.Yuh never know.

Dowrich... fumbles



Every game

In reply to Narper

We ain't sharing licks.

We tekking um..

Cummins had a good day with the ball, kept the pressure on, now some wickets.

In reply to Gun_Play

In reply to Norm

Agreed 100%. I've heard of Commentator's Curse, but now people are labelling Bishop as a Kiwi scout now? Mercy.

In reply to Norm

not sure where that comes from

but my beef with bishop is his selective criticism of players...and recently it was about who can /cannot bat pace

not with commentary tho he is powenesque when his fav players are not doing too ok...he's always too ready to bray down on those he doesn't fancy

In reply to Narper

Too many 4 balls. We are not able to build any pressure at all. 50 run partnership off 9.5 overs SMH>

In reply to yardman83
"Too many 4 balls."
I thought they say Bishoo was dropped.

Bishoo must be thanking the Stars that he not getting the cuss down this time.

The critics don't know how to get around be this conundrum. To criticize the critic.

Just saying.

Yeah, allyuh talk nah.

In reply to Narper

Not a bad ploy even with the 4. Taylor is not comfortable vs genuine pace. And I mean genuine pace!

In reply to Scar
Let's rally around this team. Good or bad. They are ours.

Who watching Sky Sports 2? Just saw highlights of England geting bowl out for 46 ... Amby in dem punnu!!!

Those were de days.....

In reply to Norm

In reply to Narper

Long hop shoo number 2. Now we need him to be lucky shoo number two.

In reply to Kay

In reply to Narper

Actually there have been a few fearless ones today who are at ease vs pace never mind short pitched bowling, and a few past helmetless ones who fed off pace like the Stackpoles, and Vivs and Gavaskars and,Freddos etc.

Just like some like skydiving and others cringe. So it goes.

He will feed off that offspin!!

In reply to Narper

that was a good call...he didnt touch squat.

glad they persisted.

Good Fielding lad...stopped a boundary

Ah fed up tell people, Cacaroach is we best fast bowler since Ambi & Walsh. Ain't know how people could put Taylor in same bracket with him. Roach is not just a home bully. 3 away series since his return and has been the strike fast bowler. Is a shame he had all them injuries. I'm sure his average woulda nearing 25 and within the top 5 bowling rankings. Top class bowler. Brilliant movement both ways.

In reply to Star

Licks like drizzle

Why NZ still batting

WI still suck

In reply to LBW375

Toouch short potch bowling even to Boult. No yorkers what a plan!!

Cannot get a number 11 out but as
soon as our top order goes in they
will be back in the pavilion in no time.

Pure drama

This is pure comedy.
WKP gets a century.

In reply to Narper

Can Windies mek 677?

In reply to Norm

Lash them man. No point in having a 120-130 "quickie" rough you up.

Beat ball. I like this.

Yes!! Powell has gone for a sub-50 score again!

In reply to Norm

Should have been hit back over the bowlers head. Seemed in 2 m8nds. Tame dismissal

In reply to Seechy

Comms just confirmed it as a bunt shot of indecision

In reply to Norm

NZ cammoe said earlier yhat yhat is a recent NZ tactic of a bowler continually bowling short ones and they dont intend to stop it vs any team

Oh skirts. No blouses.

Damn Pow pow looked good

In reply to Narper

not gonna say a thing...but I likes the lad Hetmeyer

In reply to Narper

and video link?

In reply to Norm

underground man

In reply to Norm

have one but it's slow

What an absorbing hour of play! I'm enjoying this.

In reply to Narper
Narp, this guy is a keeper, Joseph also should be playing.
If the CWI going to select youngsters at 19 years , either you play them or let them get regional experience.
After watching Paul and seeing guys from the U19 championship team, the BCA selectors dropped the ball.
Springer was the Star of that tournament, he is yet to suit up for the Pride
They are players that have it, Joseph is being wasted on the bench, he should be leading the Hurricane attack, and Springer should be getting the region excited to see him bat, bowl and field.

wagner going at almost 8 an over

In reply to Norm

Hope this is the beginning of good things to come ... i am a fan

Beautiful 6 straight over the bowler by Hety.

Murder now start?

In reply to Narper


Did you see that amazing on-drive!

Love the looks of Hety!



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At this stage of his career Brathwaite does not know how to hook???

Tough decision to switch now. Kohli on the other channel at 156

In reply to Narper

Easy now

Link me up smaddy, please...

In reply to Norm

Link?

In reply to Larr Pullo

http://www.espn.com/watch/player?bucketId=14&id=3205523

In reply to MikulT56

Thanks..

In reply to Norm

Nothing on crichd and espn you have to have a subscription. Obviously, because i am not in US I'm not a cable subscriber.

Was that Bishop I heard comparing "unique"? Very unique???

Was sure he knows better than that....


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WOUNDIANS GETTING EXCITED OVER HETMYERS COW LASHING. ROFL

COLLAPSE IS ON THE WAY GUYS. JUST WATCH THE RIDE.

202/2 is a good foundation. Hope they follow through and build on it while I get some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzs.





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202/2 is a good foundation. Hope they follow through and build on it while I get some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzs.





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I AM SENSING A WICKET HERE.WOUNDIES BATSMEN ARE STRUGGLING IN THE MIDDLE

Finally some fight by WI

2 more days to go. Lots of concentration needed

Brathwaite 79*
Hope 21*

In reply to Star

Thanx. You too.





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well played youngsters, tomorrow will be BIG

In reply to yardman83

As we all know test cricket is played over two innings. We lost this with our first innings debacle. The only thing we can get from the second innings is the usual positives in the wake of another loss.

In reply to mikesiva

Agreed. From my years of watching test cricket I have come to see the importance of scoring at least 300-350 in your first innings. It keeps you in the game. I know it varies based on the pitch but I thinking that anything less means that you will be chasing the game for the rest of the match, especially when you are playing in conditions that are unfamiliar.

In reply to Narper

A cautious start to the day's play.

damn another 90s for paint overseas

In reply to doosra

How many of these does he have. His conversion rate can be so much better if he is a little less defensive. If you bat for over 200 balls your strike rate have to be at least 50. That gets you a hundred.

In reply to yardman83

one in Australia if i recall
and one in England not so long ago

he also had a 80+ in Zimbabwe

Kraigg is only 25 tho...and already with 42 tests...

Time for him to push his average to 40 and over

they just need to bat normal...not block block block or rash

take this game deep to day 4 and possibly 5

they will learn a lot doing this sort of stuff

In reply to Norm

he can only get better, as they'd say

shot a ball

Chase approaching a 1000 runs in tests

oops

goat mouth

In reply to Narper

to be fair only someone like VOR can save dese fellaz

What was that Chase?

a full over, great


12 off 15
sekkle down

plays out a maiden

great

In reply to Narper

I hope both Ambris, Dowrich and Holder can give us some partnerships. Only thing left to accomplish in this match is to make New Zealand bat again....

Soft dissmissal. Actually angled his nat to guide it exactly where he was caught.

Need Bishoo to hold his end. Oops he not picked.

Why did Roach asked to review that decision?

In reply to Narper

whimper whimper folding ...from our strong overnight position....


seen this way too many times.

In reply to Narper


It seems the current crop of WI bats never heard about back-and-across. You cannot hook safely if you don't go back-and-across.

Do they ever watch Fredericks? Or Rowe? or Gordon??

If they do, do they learn anything???





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In reply to Norm

WI fast bowlers dont get the top order out

how will they get to the tail

In reply to Norm

Bishoo's fight with the bat alone deserves a place over some of these clowns

but hey this is wi cricket...pace like fyah in dem rass

ROFL, AS I PREDICTED COLLAPSE HAPPENED. WOUNDIES ARE FAMOUS FOR COLLAPSES. I DONT THINK TEAM IS EVEN CLOSE TO WOUNDIES FOR FAMOUS COLLAPSES.

ITS WOUNDIES CRICKET AND TALENTED WOUNDIAN CRICKETERS. ROFL AGAIN.

In reply to Norm

You ain't Get the memo: Windows pitches are so slow windies quicks forgot how to bowl bouncers.

In reply to runout

During the commentary, you could hear the pain in Ian Bishop’s voice when he said that on multiple occasions

Longtime I used to laugh at the English, Indian and Australian batsmen who used to just run to the legside and fend balls into the slips when they were playing WI.

Look how the tables have turned.

In reply to Acid

How can one call oneself a fast bowler if he cannot bowl a bouncer? Yorker? Aren't these two delivers a necessity in a fast bowler's repertoire?

Ok. Let's say Caribbean pitches are slow and dead. Then they are in the nets, they have warm up matches. They play cricket the world over. Does it mean that if you don't bowl it in the region then you don't bowl it at all.

Really ridiculous.

In reply to runout

Some time ago (I think earlier this year) Andy Roberts was conferenced in on Mason and Guest.

Andy said the reason why our bowlers are not menacing and can’t bowl more than a 5 over spell is because they are lazy and do not want to do long distance running to build up stamina.

You are right - if a fast bowler cannot bowl the two basic deliveries: Yorker, and bouncer, he doesn’t deserve to be called a bowler.

If they say the Caribbean pitches are placid, then you should be practicing to bowl full and in the Yorker zone. As Michael Holding says “bowl so that if he misses, you hit.”

In reply to Acid

KB, SH, Hety & Chase could be the nucleus of a solid batting line up.

In reply to Bigzinc

Brathwaite, Hope and Chase are definitely the “senior” members in this team and that is something to work with.

In both innings though, once Braithwaite and Hope got out, the remaining batsmen collapsed in a heap

Hetmeyer is still raw. He looks good - but needs to be managed. Can’t risk another potential being lost to 20/20 leagues (Evin Lewis, Gayle, Russell) as we will constantly be looking to plug holes in the ship.

In reply to Acid

converting potential into on field performance has been the elephant in the room as far as WI cricket is concerned over the last 20 years.