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The Great Jackie Opel

 
Chrissy 2017-12-31 17:28:42 

Cry Me a River

Jackie opel died in march, 1970, 3 days before my birthday. He died in a car accident in Bay Street, St. Michael, Barbados. Otis Redding died in 1968 or 1969 in a plane crash in the USA. Jackie Opel used to live in Jamaica, before returning to Barbados and introduce spouge music. A part of our main post office in Barbados has been named after him. Its called the Jackie Opel Amphi Theatre, located on Cheapside Road, Bridgetown,


Jackie could sing.

 
Walco 2017-12-31 19:54:29 

In reply to Chrissy

I think Mr. Gaskin might be mistaken about the location of Jackie Opel's death. As a child growing up I was pointed to a location of death that was not on Bay Street. Don't remember the name of the street though.

 
Oilah 2017-12-31 20:59:46 

In reply to Walco

I was always told it was Bay Street

 
Walco 2018-01-01 07:03:01 

In reply to Oilah

I was shown a spot in that corner on Upper Collymore Rock Road just past Culloden Road . You pass the old Boys Scouts Headquarters and Banks Brewery after that corner. The road also passes the QEH and Purity Bakery on the way out of town. Had to go to a map to figure out the name of the road smile

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2018-01-01 10:06:15 

In reply to Walco


Shortly after returning from that recording session in Trinidad, Jackie died in a car crash in the vicinity of what is now the London Bourne Towers on Bay Street on the night of March 9, 1970. He was only 32 years old.


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Walco 2018-01-01 12:15:38 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Thanks Fuzzy. He died on my birthday.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-01 12:46:24 

In reply to Walco

Too sad. Best male Bajan singer to date.

 
openning 2018-01-01 14:04:52 

In reply to Chrissy
Link Text My favourite
Eternal Love

 
Chrissy 2018-01-01 15:42:47 

In reply to openning

Nice.
Bob Clarke was playing him on Iriefm yesterday.
Happy New Year bro. lol

 
openning 2018-01-01 16:52:44 

In reply to Chrissy
Happy New Year, Prof.
The first time I saw him, people in my district, did not believe he was Jackie.
He had just returned from Jamaica, and was in my Cousin's shop, singing along to the Jukebox, he said he was Jackie Opel, and very few people believe him.
He made a date to returned the Friday evening, because the Country people were paid on Fridays.
He sang all his songs, that evening
I became more acquainted with him, when I worked in the hotel business, he was very close to my best friend, who was from Deacon's Road, and would visit the hotel every Wednesday night, when the group he played with was there.
He had a problem with the hotel and his contract was cancelled, but would come to the hotel, anyway.
He died a few weeks, before I immigrated to Canada, my friend and I was at the Westbury Cemetery for his funeral .
We saw him upstaging Percy Sledge, with his performance at the Globe cinema
When one name Barbados singers, Jackie has to be among the top.
Spooge and Jackie is to him, the same as Reggae to Jamaica.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-01 17:27:36 

In reply to openning

Man that must have been a night to remember.

 
JayMor 2018-01-01 20:05:56 

In reply to Chrissy

Jamaica was at one time the anglophone Caribbean's melting pot. On PJ's thread on soca in Ja, I mentioned T&T musicians Lord Creator, Lord Laro and Lynn Taitt who made the Yard their home and contributed significantly to the music. In the early 90's I had met a Trinidadian musician on Miami Beach who told me he had earlier worked in Jamaica. In talking about the various non-Yardies in the business he told me that he believed that Jackie Opel was a founder of the Skatalites. To be honest with you, I was incredulous, but I just looked up the group on Wikipedia and whaddyaknow...

The founders of the Skatalites were Tommy McCook (died 1998 ), Rolando Alphonso (died 1998 ), Lester Sterling, Lloyd Brevett (died 2012), Lloyd Knibb (died 2011), Don Drummond (died 1969), Jah Jerry Haynes (died 2007), Jackie Mittoo (died 1990), Johnny Moore (died 2008 ) and Jackie Opel (died 1970).

So, in at least a little way, Jackie Opel helped develop and guide Jamaican music. May he RIP eternally.

--Æ.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-01 20:17:22 

In reply to JayMor

Yes I heard that too. You're right.

Roland was Cuban, right?

 
JayMor 2018-01-01 22:07:59 

In reply to Chrissy

Roland was Cuban, right?

From Wikipedia...
Born in Havana, Cuba, Alphonso came to Jamaica at the age of two with his Jamaican mother, and started to learn saxophone at the Stony Hill Industrial School.

Similar are Rita Marley and Rico Rodriguez. Thinking back to my earliest years... One Kelo Brown (black-skinned), owner of the biggest shop in my district and one Ossie Grant (light-skinned), owner of the bakery in the town square, were both from Cuba too.

Then there is the case of us in Hanover calling the broad flared machetes "wampara" (prolly properly spelt "guampara"). I read somewhere that Sir Howard Cooke used to lead cricket teams to Santiago. All taken together, the case is made that the two countries were at one time much 'closer'.

--Æ.

 
seaegg99 2018-01-01 22:50:14 

In reply to Oilah

Jackie like Mighty Gabby is from Chapman's Lane.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-02 05:17:54 

In reply to JayMor

Interesting and yes the two countries have always been close until others tried and failed to destroy our relationship.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-02 05:18:12 

In reply to seaegg99

Are they relatives?

 
Walco 2018-01-02 07:31:09 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

London Bourne Towers on Bay Street

Where exactly is this?

 
Oilah 2018-01-02 07:57:12 

In reply to seaegg99

"DE Lane" producing ballers cricketers and singers big grin

 
analyst-kid 2018-01-02 09:36:33 

I was five years old when he died.

Never met him. But damn I would have liked to meet him.

He left Barbados in the early Sixties on a boat to Jamaica in connection with joining Byron Lee but ended up with the Skatalites and doing a lot of recordings in Studio One with Coxxone Dodds.

To me the greatest Barbadian entertainer ever...he could sing, an eight octave voice, he could dance, he could write and he could play the bass guitar.

He died in that exact area facing London Bourne Towers now,just before u reach the Boat Yard night club...he was in his Cosmopolitan convertible driven by a lady...the lady survived and he was thrown from the car bursting open his head on a strong chain link fence...all these things I have been told from media reports and personal accounts.

Barbados didn't recognize him when he returned from Jamaica with his strange hair style (knotty hair). Some hoteliers refused to let him sing in their hotels but he was accepted by Syd Jones and his Troubadours and he became their lead singer. He invented a beat called SPOUGE which started off with a cow bell lead in YOU GOT TO PAY (1969)...and then changed to a bass lead with softer cow bell in YOU'RE NO GOOD (1970).

The new album with the new groovy beat sounding like a cousin to reggae was set to be launched at a show on Wednesday 11 March 1970 at the Globe Cinema when he died in the wee hours of Monday morning March 9 1970. Ironically he was buried at a huge funeral in West Bury Cemetery on the day Wednesday of his launch album performance.

In my opinion he should never have returned to Barbados. He wanted acceptance and recognition from Barbados but the people as a whole were not ready to embrace a man from poor upbringings as a great artist and future legend. the state of his grave today empathizes my point...

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Also ironic that his grave overlooks Westbury road very close to the gap of Rihanna's childhood residence (the area Westbury Road recently renamed
Rihanna Drive) further up

 
Walco 2018-01-02 09:59:50 

In reply to analyst-kid

He died in that exact area facing London Bourne Towers now,just before u reach the Boat Yard night club...he was in his Cosmopolitan convertible driven by a lady...the lady survived and he was thrown from the car bursting open his head on a strong chain link fence...

Thanks

 
analyst-kid 2018-01-02 10:17:55 

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Chrissy 2018-01-02 10:21:55 

In reply to analyst-kid

Great post bro

 
Walco 2018-01-02 11:07:31 

In reply to analyst-kid

When was that picture taken? 1950? Man I don't remember ever seeing Bay Street with so little traffic during the daytime smile That little corner was the first place on Bay Street that came to mind as a potential location.

 
openning 2018-01-02 14:20:03 

In reply to analyst-kid

Barbados didn't recognize him when he returned from Jamaica with his strange hair style (knotty hair). Some hoteliers refused to let him sing in their hotels but he was accepted by Syd Jones and his Troubadours and he became their lead singer. He invented a beat called SPOUGE which started off with a cow bell lead in YOU GOT TO PAY (1969)...and then changed to a bass lead with softer cow bell in YOU'RE NO GOOD (1970).


The above is true, I worked at Paradise Beach Club, the Troubadors played there every Wednesday Night, Jackie would visit, assisted with the breaking down of the equipment, by did not participated in the night event

 
analyst-kid 2018-01-02 14:38:09 

In reply to openning

if you worked at Paradise Beach Club, you would have to know of me...my address is Near Paradise Beach Club,Black Rock St Michael.

 
analyst-kid 2018-01-02 14:39:31 

In reply to Walco

that is a very recent picture...nothing like the Bay Street corner of 1970.

 
pelon 2018-01-02 14:52:39 

In reply to openning

Born Dalton Sinclair Bishop, Jackie Opel AKA 'Manface' did not get the respect he deserved in Bim. Thanks for your first person accounts guys.

"Jackie Opel was musical from an early age. He would earn pennies from his singing by swimming out to the liners that docked in Bridgetown Harbour and performing to the passengers. He got the nickname ’Man face’ on account he looked older than he was although physically Opel was small. It was the major hotels where Jackie Opel learnt to perform on stage and where the visiting Byron Lee, the band master of the Dragonaires spotted him. Lee realised that Opel’s six octave voice was a rare gift and he had plans for Jackie to front the Dragonaires. Around 1960 and already married to a Trinidadian (Opel later took Trinidadian citizenship) Jackie left his home island with Byron Lee and The Dragonaires for Jamaica. The union quickly dissolved and there appears to be no records to suggest they made it together to a recording studio. Jackie had other designs in Jamaica , the advent of ‘Dancehall’ which were basically travelling sound systems were bringing American R&B to the mass of the population and Jamaican music , free from the colonial shackles of the fifties was about to take a radical shift. Jackie Opel would be at the forefront of the changes." (Link below)


Here is a good read on Jackie Opel

You're no good

 
Walco 2018-01-02 15:31:13 

In reply to pelon

Nice read. While reading I kept wondering if his family gets royalties for his recordings.

 
Walco 2018-01-02 15:34:45 

Alton Ellis says to see Jackie Opel was a life affirming event – he was a performer in the style of young Jackie Wilson whose act was a predominate influence. Opel would spin and fall to the ground in a crescendo of legs drooping and flailing arms, a small man in stature but a big man in heart and personality.

The music critic Al Gilkes wrote at the time ………. On stage Jackie forced his way into the hearts of his audience to make them share his experience. His tears were their tears, his joy theirs ……..

Jackie, now a huge star in Jamaica, had left Kingston for Trinidad and eventually home to Barbados. I really haven’t been able to find out why. Several sources mentioned his sudden Jamaican farewell to be the result of a death threat from a Yardie gangster in response to an indiscretion with a Yardie girlfriend. Since this story has the provenance of two sources it may have credence but other factors are likely. Opel had a casual approach to his work, his talent being such that he could turn up at a studio and write songs on demand, seemingly with little preparation. He could also sing anything, in any key and with perfect timing. You have to suppose that living on the edge would take its toll. Maybe it did though I don’t have a great deal of evidence that this was the case. Al Gilkes writing at the time of his death refers to …. The pain that life continually bought him … so maybe there were other reasons for his exodus from Jamaica.

I'm buying the Yardie Gangsta threat story smile

 
analyst-kid 2018-01-02 15:41:21 

I remember hearing my aunt who was a 19 year old at that time hollering and crying through the household "Jackie dead! Jackie dead!" when the news hit the nation that morning.

I remember his brother crying and giving a tribute on CBC TV later that week (Stupid CBC has erased all the nuff footage of that tribute and many of Jackie's performances on Studio Party,a local show)

An older neighbour of mine, Tony "Prince" who said he used to drum for Jackie said the week before his death he was doing all kinds of crazy things...like driving round in the Cosmoplitan convertible in his underwear, many times being driven by someone and he sitting high on the back seats...I always used to wonder if that was the case behind his death...the story abounds that the car had no good brakes (or none atall ..Jackie had no licence either!)...in fact Ken Jones (of the Troubadours) in an interview recently joked that they warned him about the Cosmopolitan.

I for one has had not much regard for Barbadians and their regard for the arts, culture and entertainment, myself being a former President of the Entertainers Union. In fact I would always argue that Barbadians are culturally backward in respect to my experiences and their treatment of Jackie.

Jackie should have done like his Jamaicans peers and headed for England. Barbados was backward (still is) and not ready. Reggae would have exploded in the 1970s and Jackie as a top singer/songwriter would have easily become a superstar. Whilst in Barbados, A tour to Australia was planned after his ill fated album launch.

 
analyst-kid 2018-01-02 15:50:56 

In reply to Walco

I don't think his family get any royalties..at least Im not sure (I worked with Jackie's niece a while)...what I do know is that Coxsone and his estate receives the bulk.

 
Walco 2018-01-02 15:58:22 

In reply to analyst-kid

Interesting ... most artists are more concerned with creating art than protecting their financial interests. So I'm not surprised.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-02 16:37:23 

In reply to pelon

Nice man - I think it's time to clean up his grave and give him his due in his homeland.

 
JayMor 2018-01-02 17:25:08 

In reply to pelon

Great link dat "good read", Pelon. I'll be putting it to use. Thanks.

--Æ.

 
JayMor 2018-01-02 17:31:02 

In reply to analyst-kid

...what I do know is that Coxsone and his estate receives the bulk.

Nuff man have dat fe say bout Coxsone, and more man have more fe say bout him. big grin

--Æ.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-02 17:37:54 

In reply to JayMor

Nice read fi true

 
pelon 2018-01-02 17:42:18 

In reply to JayMor & Chrissy

Cheers!

Here is one of the first recordings: Worrel's Captaincy (which coincidentally we are on a CRICKET site sharing his 1st record... about cricket!!)

A very versatile singer:
Lonely Tear
Forever and Ever (range!)
OLD ROCKING CHAIR (ska)

Finally: Let's listen to this voice.... Fly me to the Moon

 
JayMor 2018-01-02 17:50:04 

In reply to Chrissy

Thanks for bringing Jackie up, sis; he was really due.

--Æ.

 
JayMor 2018-01-02 17:53:31 

In reply to pelon

As I said, Missa P, I plan to make use of these news and memory refreshers of the great man. Will let you know.

--Æ.

 
Walco 2018-01-02 17:54:41 

In reply to JayMor

Nuff man have dat fe say bout Coxsone, and more man have more fe say bout him.

Coxsone ah tief??? Maybe he was the Jamaican gangsta who run Jackie out of the Yard ...

 
pelon 2018-01-02 17:56:20 

In reply to analyst-kid

Thanks for your post! Man, where would bajan music be without Jackie? Lawd he was special

Richard Stoute
Tony "Poser" Grazette
Draytons Two: Drink Milk [ such an original sound and song! ]
Troubadours International (Talk)
The Escorts
BRC
Shirley Stewart
The Outfit (Rickey Amey)
De Opels (Midge and Hubert) [ Bring your Sweet Loving ]

on and on owe his honor a debt of gratitude.

Bunny B. of WIRL sold his catalogue years back, but we really need to archive and treasure our unique Spouge in a significant way. The masters are rotting, many lost forever.

cheers to all fans of MUSIC

 
Walco 2018-01-02 18:02:33 

In reply to pelon

Love that Rediffusion box and kerosene lamp in in the videos. Memory lane stuff

 
Chrissy 2018-01-02 18:12:36 

In reply to pelon

I thought I knew every piece of old time cricket music. Thanks man.big grin

 
Chrissy 2018-01-02 18:14:03 

In reply to JayMor

Thank Bob Clarke for playing him Sunday on Irie - got me thinking _ I was a big fan moving up and down the Caribbean. lol

 
JayMor 2018-01-02 18:16:17 

In reply to Walco

Coxsone ah tief??? Maybe he was the Jamaican gangsta who run Jackie out of the Yard

See't deh! lol To be fair to him though, even people who didn't get their just royalties big him up still; he gave many their start, etc.
I sorta discount the Yardie gansta bit because Jackie was so integrated in the scene that he could've called on his own gangstas to counter.

--Æ.

 
pelon 2018-01-02 18:35:41 

In reply to JayMor
Coxsone was boss...

I sorta discount the Yardie gansta bit because Jackie was so integrated in the scene that he could've called on his own gangstas to counter.


Ok ok ok... yuh draw this bit of "ganster" triva outta pelon:

Boss ganagster? Leslie Kong, influential producer of the era, and the the one who pressed Jackie Opels "I love Jamaica" calypso song... yes him... he had told Bunny Wailer he was going to release a collection of "The Best of The Wailers" songs as a compilation from songs he Kong produced... as the story goes, Bunny Wailer doubled down on ganster as said to Kong:

“Don’t do it, mon, It cannot be de best of de Wailers, ‘cause our best is yet to come. When yuh seh dat de best of someone has gone, den dat person is already dead or soon dyin’, so we don’ wan dat. If yuh do dis t’ing I prophesize dat it is yuh who will die.” (Bunny was rumored to have more than a passing acquaintance with obeah)

Kong released the album.

Kong was dead a few months after. Massive heart attack

Music history. Share.

 
Walco 2018-01-02 19:22:10 

In reply to pelon and JayMor

Which one ah wunna right? Yuh fight gangsta wid gangsta or wid obeahman? smile

 
Chrissy 2018-01-02 19:38:55 

In reply to pelon

lol lol

 
JayMor 2018-01-02 19:43:43 

In reply to Walco
Maybe Jackie's Bajan obeah wasn't going to be potent enough on the J'can scene??? LOL.

In reply to Pelon
Never heard that story but knowing a bit about Bunny it could be true. Coincidence is one heluva thing, as you know; Kong was gwine to have heart attack whether Bunny threatened or not. smile

--Æ.

 
analyst-kid 2018-01-02 21:26:10 

In reply to pelon

It was Jackie's death in 1970 that inspired the spouge revival in 1973 led by the Drayton's Two although local expert and Jackie's manager Mark Williams ( he told me this personally after he heard me talking the above on the local radio station) maintains that gospel legend Joseph Niles maintained the use of spouge in his gospel after Jackie's death.

(This is the first time this is mentioned anywhere re Joseph Niles involvement...Bajans not strong on artistic/cultural documentation,archiving and establishing discographies of which they are none)

Spouge all the Way (original)

Unfortunately although you called it an original song...Drink Milk by Draytons Milk was not original. Like most of their early hits they were remakes of Jamaican songs.
Draytons Two big song Drink Milk
Drink Milk by Justin Hinds and the Dominoes
Draytons Seven Books
Toots and the Maytals

Draytons Two- Stick By Me

John Holt

Nothing wrong with that really...Jamaica had a thriving recording industry.

Joseph Niles..How Great Thou Art in Spouge!

 
analyst-kid 2018-01-02 21:47:52 

Eternal Love Jackie's original song 1965 done in the famous Studio One

Clarendonians

Horace Andy

Delano Stewart

Jackie's singing partner in the Skatalites...Doreen Shaffer

Clarence Thompson with spouge

 
powen001 2018-01-02 22:15:08 

The Bob MARLEY Museum actually credits JAckie Opel with being a huge influence on young Robert Nesta Marley...

check it and see...Saw it myself when it opened ...Went to Honor Bob and the first thing I was told as a Bajan was that they had a surprise for me...Jackie Opel s influence on Bob..

lol big grin

 
Chrissy 2018-01-03 08:00:27 

In reply to powen001

True

 
culpepperboy 2018-01-03 08:01:47 

In reply to powen001

I tell wunnuh Bob was a bajan!! I think he come from Marleyvale!! cool

 
Chrissy 2018-01-03 08:04:01 

In reply to analyst-kid

Bajans not strong on artistic/cultural documentation,archiving and establishing discographies of which they are none)


Well you have two years until the 50th anniversary of his death so get cracking lol

 
Chrissy 2018-01-03 08:04:25 

In reply to culpepperboy

You never fail wink

 
analyst-kid 2018-01-03 09:25:53 

In reply to Chrissy

You are not the only one saying I should take up that mantle. Many older oral historians have told me this.

 
analyst-kid 2018-01-03 09:29:17 

If JACKIE influenced Bob...remember it was the JAMAICAN existing recording and music industry that made him (Jackie) the star he is.

Jamaica has always had a huge influence on Barbados musical landscape and the rest of the West Indies.

It was the spirit of independence that spurred Jamaicans to create their own sound and beat...Jackie was taken up in this spirit and returned to Barbados to create hos own sound and beat for his homeland....but he was rejected.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-03 10:01:30 

In reply to analyst-kid

What you don't know is that more Jamaican music was played on radio in Guyana than in Jamaica. Don't ever think Bob or any of them were accepted here. People associated with the Sound Systems and original dance hall loved the local music but it was not played on air.

Acceptance among Jamaicans and other Caribbean peeps in London and the US pushed the music. It is true that the conscious middle class loved it but they were a minority. On the other hand, nuff Jamaicans and other Caribbean peeps abroad (including college and university students) used to go to the live shows and both UK and American musicians loved the genre.

I think if Jackie had lived longer things may have been different in Bim, despite resistance from those who resist anything original or authentic from these parts.

Our region is full of mimic men and women.

Lots of these hypocrites didn't accept Bob until Time gave him album of the century.

 
Walco 2018-01-03 10:25:21 

In reply to openning

You are the only one on here who met Jackie in person. What say you about the stories of his erratic behavior shortly before his death?

 
powen001 2018-01-03 10:58:25 

In reply to analyst-kid

ROY BYER hAS/had treasure trove of material Site..

And that was when I was active in Kaiso back in the early 90's...He wanted me to see how he archived stuff ..it was impressive.

 
powen001 2018-01-03 10:59:19 

In reply to Chrissy

Well said

 
analyst-kid 2018-01-03 11:10:12 

In reply to powen001

so who u think it was advocating me to document? The same Roy Byer, (and Frank Coppin aka Foreigner Frank) now buried less than 12 ft from Jackie.

He lamented his video archiving started just after Jackie's death...in other words he has/had no video footage of Jackie. As I said earlier CBC destroyed/erased all their video tape footage.

 
jacksprat 2018-01-03 11:25:02 

In reply to powen001

Went to Honor Bob and the first thing I was told as a Bajan was that they had a surprise for me...Jackie Opel s influence on Bob..

Two of Bob's favourite singers were Jackie Opel and Dennis Brown. The young Wailers often sang backing vocals on quite a few of Jackie Opel's recordings.

I know Bunny Wailer thought he was one of the greatest singers he had ever heard and put him on par with the likes of Sam Cooke

 
pelon 2018-01-03 11:33:02 

In reply to analyst-kid

He lamented his video archiving started just after Jackie's death...in other words he has/had no video footage of Jackie. As I said earlier CBC destroyed/erased all their video tape footage.
Shame.

Sidenote: old school Jackie Opel links.... Foreigner Frank's 1988 Lawn Um Down has a melody fused with spouge (take a listen). Lawn Um Down remains one of my favorite calypsos from back in the 80's
Frank also managed De Opels in the 70's - and was a writer on 'Chocolate Affaire' label back in the day...

 
Chrissy 2018-01-03 13:45:52 

In reply to jacksprat

There is so much that builds us in this region yet many prefer to divide and rule.

 
Walco 2018-01-03 15:25:19 

In reply to powen001

I have driven past that museum on several occasions. I will visit soon.

 
JayMor 2018-01-03 20:23:38 

In reply to jacksprat

Good post, Sprattie. Trute, sah!

--Æ.

 
powen001 2018-01-03 20:30:34 

In reply to analyst-kid

He lamented his video archiving started just after Jackie's death...in other words he has/had no video footage of Jackie. As I said earlier CBC destroyed/erased all their video tape footage.


Yup...Fully aware...really sad ...and boss...people dont understand the travesty they commit cry

 
powen001 2018-01-03 20:33:25 

In reply to jacksprat

Thanks mate..

I can confess that I did shed a tear walking through that Museum...

I always wanted to meet Bob or at least see BOB...remember exactly where I was when I heard he had died...so when the Museum opened...and I happened to be in Jamaica all those years later...it was a must do...

So imagine my genuine surprise by my hosts...to be informed and educated about Jackie Opels influence on Bob Marley..

It will stay with me for the rest of my days..I am sure.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-03 20:33:25 

In reply to JayMor

Sprattie knows a thing or three about Yard music lol

 
openning 2018-01-05 00:36:17 

In reply to Walco

You are the only one on here who met Jackie in person. What say you about the stories of his erratic behavior shortly before his death?

At that time, I never looked at the life he lived, was not important to me, or my friends.
A lot was said after his death, and you heard things about his lifestyle, my friends never discussed it.

 
openning 2018-01-05 00:43:39 

In reply to analyst-kid

if you worked at Paradise Beach Club, you would have to know of me...my address is Near Paradise Beach Club,Black Rock St Michael.


You were 5 years when I left Barbados.
Winston Husbands and I, were motorcycles buddies, haven't seen him since I left the Island.

 
openning 2018-01-05 01:06:54 

In reply to pelon

Bro, dam song brought back memories of the fifty cents dances, at the Liberty and Friendship

 
Walco 2018-01-05 06:59:46 

In reply to openning

At that time, I never looked at the life he lived, was not important to me, or my friends.

Does this mean you did not personally observe erratic behavior? The question I asked is a little narrower than "the life he lived."

 
openning 2018-01-05 12:35:52 

In reply to Walco
I never observe such behaviour, but of course you will hear people talking about him

 
analyst-kid 2018-01-05 13:45:05 

In reply to openning



You were 5 years when I left Barbados.


It is not about me that you would have known of...but something relating to me.

 
openning 2018-01-05 14:12:40 

In reply to analyst-kid

Are you related to Yarde?
PM me the name, we had a good group during the few years I worked there.
Check your message

 
pelon 2018-01-05 14:49:07 

In reply to openning

Bunny Best, Gilkes, Williams etc. and his actual personal friends need to get together and document his "life story" on the Bajan side.
Very little published on this influential Bajan performer.

 
openning 2018-01-05 15:16:00 

In reply to pelon

His work/ life need to be recognized and documented.
The Spooge should be to Barbados as Reggae is to Jamaica or Salsa, Merengue, Bachata and Cumbia to Latin America

 
pelon 2018-01-05 15:23:24 

In reply to openning

Not just for Spooge, he also contributed (IMHO) to elevating local performances to a very high level of entertainment. Before him all of Bim was one dimensional music catering to the hotel circuit alone. It was Harry Belafonte style fluff.... he kicked open the doors for our music, the day he returned.

Had he been alive today, who knows where his talents would have taken him.

Rest in Peace.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-05 15:49:52 

In reply to pelon

he kicked open the doors for our music, the day he returned.



Harry was a lucky man that there were no copyright laws then. He claimed more covers than Byron Lee wink

 
Curtis 2018-01-05 15:53:51 

I learned a lot from this thread. I used to mek sport with nuff Bajans bout Jackie, but this was good.
lol

 
Walco 2018-01-05 16:59:07 

In reply to pelon

Bunny Best, Gilkes, Williams etc. and his actual personal friends need to get together and document his "life story" on the Bajan side.
Very little published on this influential Bajan performer.


Man search out those people, get permission to record the conversations, and start asking questions.

 
Walco 2018-01-05 16:59:49 

In reply to openning

Thanks man

 
Chrissy 2018-01-05 17:38:06 

In reply to Curtis

Same here- great thread.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-05 17:41:35 

In reply to pelon

Someone should arrange for Rihanna to do an album of Opel's music in time for the 50th anniversary of his death.
I'd love to hear her sing Cry Me a River for starters.

 
openning 2018-01-05 17:59:16 

In reply to pelon
I lived about a 11/2 miles from Applewhite sugar factory, after closure was the home of WIRL, did Jackie record any of his music there?

 
Walco 2018-01-05 18:27:14 

In reply to Chrissy

Great idea, but this revives the conversation I had with JayMor and Kid earlier about ownership of Jackie's music. According to JayMor, Coxone probably owns it, at least the recordings done in Jamaica. But that might not be the case for anything recorded in Barbados or Trinidad.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-05 19:39:23 

In reply to Walco

True but it can't be that hard to unravel. I'm going to see what I can find out st 56.

 
culpepperboy 2018-01-05 19:43:43 

In reply to Chrissy

You should get she to sing dis one for de west indies:
"You no good, no good, you ain't good at all no good! Man you hear what I say, you no good!" cool

 
culpepperboy 2018-01-05 19:44:51 

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Chrissy 2018-01-05 19:45:25 

In reply to culpepperboy

You win lol

 
Walco 2018-01-06 11:52:33 

In reply to Chrissy

I'm going to see what I can find out st 56.

What’s st 56?

 
cedaw 2018-01-06 13:11:50 

In reply to Walco

What’s st 56?


Maybe the 's' was a typo and she meant "at 56", I'm guessing she's referring to the Bob Marley Museum at 56 Hope Road perhaps?

 
JayMor 2018-01-06 13:40:12 

In reply to cedaw
My feeling exactly.

In reply to Walco
Seeing that you said "owns" I perhaps need to tell you that Clement "Coxsone" Dodd passed on a few years ago.

--Æ.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-06 15:14:28 

In reply to Walco

at 56 - the BM Museum lol

 
Walco 2018-01-06 17:17:10 

In reply to JayMor

Should’ve said his estate. I actually learned that he was dead while doing research after you mentioned his name a few days ago. His estate apparently has an estimated value of US$8 million

 
Star 2018-01-07 08:26:59 

In reply to Chrissy

Best male Bajan singer to date
.
Better than the late great Clarence Thompson?

Don't think so Chrissy.

 
pelon 2018-01-07 11:11:51 

In reply to Star

I agree that Jackie Opel was not our "best singer" (though this is a toss up between maybe 3 persons), but I think Chrissy meant greatest male artist/entertainer. The man created Spouge !!!

Clarence Thompson great as he was, stood on the shoulders of Jackie Opel.

Clarence Thompson was not original - but I agree he was a great vocalist. Many of "hits" are all spouse beats... his style his music, his vocalization are all heavy influenced by Jackie.

The great vocalist: Clarence Thompson
You, Me and Love
Drinks (sounding like Joseph Niles stuff)

 
Chrissy 2018-01-07 11:13:50 

In reply to Star

LOL lol

 
analyst-kid 2018-01-07 11:51:35 

Better than the late great Clarence Thompson?


Interesting argument.

Was Sam Cooke a better singer than Nat King Cole?

Re Jackie Opel and my friend Clarence Thompson...Jackie had more range and did more with his voice...Jackie could bring a show down with his voice while Clarence impressed with his smooth singing.

Clarence Thompson- Lucy's Door

Jackie Opel- Every word I say is true

 
Chrissy 2018-01-07 12:56:32 

In reply to analyst-kid

Correct is right

 
Hants 2018-01-07 13:18:06 

In reply to analyst-kid

I heard the late Clarence Thompson singing live when he was backed by The Telcos Combo.

He was really good.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-07 15:01:08 

In reply to Hants

I could name a plethora of good singers - Jackie was an authentic package - big difference.

 
che 2018-01-07 15:43:27 

In reply to Chrissy

Best Bim pipes

Male
Jackie 'Manface Bishop' Opel
Clarence Thompson
Mark Lorde-I hear a Love Song
Rudy Boyce

Female
Ri Ri
Alison Hinds
Wendy Alleyne.
Sheryl Hackett

 
Hants 2018-01-07 16:43:16 

In reply to Chrissy

I never saw a live Jackie Opel performance but was told he was a great singer and performer who could dance like James Brown.

Clarence was a stand up soul singer with a very smooth voice.

 
Hants 2018-01-07 16:49:46 

In reply to che

More Bajan talent to watch. Youtube

Chandelier (Sia Cover) - Ch'An at Mahalia's Corner 2016

 
powen001 2018-01-07 16:58:41 

In reply to Walco

Man search out those people, get permission to record the conversations, and start asking questions.


Colin Observer Reid spent time with Jackie too...is very passionate when anyone misspeaks about Jackie...to this day.

Observer like Site is a local stalwart of Calypso...

Observer is a good source too.

 
powen001 2018-01-07 17:01:26 

In reply to pelon

Clarence Thompson great as he was, stood on the shoulders of Jackie Opel.


Clarence happened to be my Great Uncle and Uncle of our TC...yes we are family smile

Boy he could sing...murdah big grin

 
powen001 2018-01-07 17:03:03 

In reply to che

I see you Che...

One has to Add EDWIN YEARWOOD to that list..and there are others but not nearly as easily recognized as that group.

Richard Stoute has a Unique voice...even if not the BEST but its Uniqueness made Richard Stand out as well.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-07 17:48:49 

In reply to powen001

Fi real? He was your great uncle.

 
che 2018-01-07 18:39:30 

In reply to powen001

John King rolls up on top five befo Yearwood or Stoute...so me seeit

 
Walco 2018-01-07 19:12:17 

In reply to Chrissy

Nice ton Chrissy!! Raise your bat, take a bow and kiss the pitch.

I'm still trying to figure out how a thread about Jackie Opel can score a ton on CC smile

 
Walco 2018-01-07 19:14:31 

In reply to powen001

Colin Observer Reid spent time with Jackie too

Next time I'm in Bim I would love to have a chat with Colin.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-07 19:18:29 

In reply to Walco

The Great Jackie Opel - music lovers respect their greats. That said it is you folks who scored di ton. lol

 
Walco 2018-01-07 20:01:37 

In reply to Chrissy

Gabby's Emmerton

One of my favorites

John King's How Many More

One from my old school mate. Not a bad cricketer either.

Gabby's Bridgetown

 
Chrissy 2018-01-08 05:07:42 

In reply to Walco

Thanks man- love Gabby lol

 
Chrissy 2018-01-08 09:53:37 

So Bunny Wailer will receive Iriefm's Lifetime Achievement Award on Feb 11. The function will be held at Bournemouth Beach in East Kingston (home of the Skatalites).
Bunny's manager just reminded all that the Skatalites were the backbone of the Wailers.

 
analyst-kid 2018-01-09 10:27:17 

one more thing I would like to mention re Jackie Opel.

IN my life as an entertainer, I started out as a dub chanter being the National Champion of Barbados four times 1983,1985,1989 and 1992.

Jackie Opel is the earliest artiste Ive ever heard singing two songs to the same musical arrangement...something commonplace for a dub artiste chanting nuff songs to one riddim track.
Maybe it was done prior to Jackie in Studio One but Jackie is one of the earliest if it is so....

You Set my Soul on Fire

Im in Love Again

 
Chrissy 2018-01-09 12:38:39 

In reply to analyst-kid

Both were at Studio One

 
analyst-kid 2018-01-09 12:43:14 

In reply to Chrissy

Those two songs were spouge circa late 1960s...the first spouge song was You Got To Pay In 1969.

Now I dont think spouge was played in Studio One but Jackie Opel being the musician he is and as Mark Williams informed me he was back in forth from Jamaica to Barbados...it might very well be possible.

The actual picture of the record is marked Carina Studio which I think is in Trinidad.

 
Chrissy 2018-01-09 15:59:18 

In reply to analyst-kid

You're right about the picture.
I defer - would be nice to see all his music documented.
this starts in '63