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Mikeshiva what's to report?

This is the time of the year for Track and Field athletics. Any indoor info would be welcomed.

What has become of the amazing (until WC) Fred Kerley? Any reports on Demish Gaye? Javon Francis is back! Any great 400m prospects out there?

In reply to Headley

Yes Headley,was thinking the same thing. That time of year where we do our little "conference" to see what's up and who's who.
Saw report on Francis,but cant get any info on yesterdays CBar meet. Reports said they looked good at DForest meet.....but.
Our Ugandan "rocket" finished 3rd in a 5000 event.What's up with that.?
Tyreke Bryan is back!!!???
Let's gear up cause the show is about to start.
Yeeesss!!!!!!!

In reply to RoyalDad

Rodgers came third in the 5000m behind two GC Foster men, who he has beaten a number of times since Nov 2017. He ran the steeple chase this weekend so he needs to be strategic.

Lots of class 1 guys are back. Can't get them to leave school. Carpenter, Bryan, Morris.

CHS will do the unthinkable in the 4x400, bear in mind the high school world record is 3:06.56 by the JC team of Eldemire, Clarke, Mighty, McPherson.

In reply to JoeGrine

Don't think anyone will argue. When will it happen?

In reply to JoeGrine

No question Joe. Super team they have. Think Carpenter may pull the upset in the individual?? Taylor barely caught him last year.
Headley.. No Matherson though...right??

In reply to RoyalDad

Carpenter? When the dust settles he may be their #3 400m man!

In reply to JoeGrine

Joe have you been playing a lot of poker recently?

In reply to RoyalDad

Matherson gone Florida State. Seminoles man now.

In reply to Headley

As the saying goes..."watch the ride"

Any news of Michael O'Hara??? Seems to have disappeared completely.

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In reply to Headley

Selected results from the Kirkvine meet

Results from the JC meet

C'bar looking good

Dacres & Smikle @ big throwers meet

First up on the international circuit is Karlsruhe on Feb 3...indoor meet.

In reply to JoeGrine

Alright sah. Could it be one of; SC of light blue extract; BH who excels when he repeats; or MJK who seems to have taken 3.5 secs off last year's 400mh time?

In reply to Ewart

How you doing sah? Haven't seen you for a while. If you are up north you must be thinking of the beaches back home at this time of year.

In reply to JoeGrine

Who else will compliment Carpenter and Taylor?

In reply to RoyalDad

Headley just told you . Watch out for SC!

In reply to JoeGrine

Joe.Any reports on Bann? Saw the race at Central Hurdles which he won.Wonder what he can contribute this year.

Headley any thoughts?

In reply to RoyalDad

SC is Shamar Chambers. Third year at CBar from Georges. As I said above we will need to beg these guys to leave school.

Bann is trying but the assistance and guidance is mediocre. Do not expect any miracles.

In reply to mikesiva

Rumours are that your purchasing department has been working overtime. I hear it could be JC second this year.

In reply to JoeGrine

I don't think Carpenter was planning to spend the year in school just to make a contribution to the relay squad. I suspect this will be a duel to remember.Could be sub 46.

In reply to Headley

Hear hear.!!
That 44 an change not fretting at all.

In reply to RoyalDad

Taylor is the man. AC and SC are the supporting cast. I will not bet against a fit Taylor.

Over the next 4 weeks it will become clearer.


On another note when will KC beg, steal or borrow some 400mh runners? Maybe Omar Mc Leod needs to make a school visit to inspire.

In reply to Headley

I honestly don't think Taylor will threaten the Bloomfield mark, even with Carpenter an company to deal with. Judging from last year, he looked as if he was laboring ( in the 400 ).But like you, I will hold my 2 cents until I see otherwise.
We shipped out Matherson and the long jumper ( think he went to Auburn ). Anyone else of note left?

Don't know answer to hurdles question. We're that bad??!!

Gibson in 2-3 weeks. Will be watching if on TVJ.

Do we have any surprises like last year?

In reply to Headley

Renegade? You trying to raise the dead????

In reply to RoyalDad

Gibson is Feb 24. We will struggle this year. Our hurdles stocks are just like last year.

Our class 3 is good.

In reply to Walco

Renegade got fed up and left but he reads the board. He is very keen about track and field especially about Cedenio.

In reply to RoyalDad

Queens Grace Jacson Meet tomorrow. Hope some serious athletes turn up. We need to get a sense of who's competing and whether any stars will emerge.

Seeing some prospects on the female side. The stars on the male side are known.

In reply to Headley

Agreed.

Seems we have more female prospects than males.

Should get a sense of where OHara is as he is on the schedule for the 200.

Purples usually show up here I believe.

In reply to RoyalDad

Not sure if KC will show up. There are no competing meets today except the Steths Meet in St. Elizabeth.

The Queens organizers said they would be live streaming, but so far nothing.

Haven't seen Joe for a few days, but with Speedy Williams in the Ja football squad in Turkey he (Joe) may be there.

In reply to Headley

Boss think coach playing it really cautious and safe after what happened last year......Matherson. Afterall,he's on the hot seat.

Purples haven't represented so far.

Wait and see.

In reply to Headley

I am good! As the Trinis would say, It have some nice heated swimming pools up here...





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In reply to RoyalDad

The Queens/Grace Jackson meet is one where you can qualify for Champs so I expect the team will be there. Hope they post some videos.

In reply to Ewart

Good to hear you. I am a tropical animal animal. The cold does not agree with me. Good to know it have pools heated and accessible.

In reply to Headley

Will check my TVJ "link" later for any.

In reply to Headley

Did you see Bann's race against Carpenter? He was told to take it easy I suspect. Mind games here.

Haven't seen any more races with KC involved.

Raffickshaw has not posted any either.

In reply to RoyalDad

Carpenter leads Nann home

That was a tough lane assignment for Bann in lane 1.

I am happy to see him looking injury free. After a 2 year hiatus I hope he goes from strength to strength. He ran 48.38 for the 400m. I suspect he will improve on that.

Raffick Shaw probably fed up of the tactics.

In reply to Headley

Still trying to figure out which Renegade yu ah chat.

In reply to Headley

Elaine Thompson clocked 7.18secs to take section three of the women's 60-metre dash Open at the 17th staging of the Queen's/Grace Jackson Invitational Meet at National Stadium Saturday night, but she was made to work by her MVP teammate Christania Williams, who led for about 50m of the race.

Left behind by both Williams and Sprintec's Natasha Morrison at the start, Thompson had to extend her legs to catch up, but prevailed to take first place with her superior top-end speed.

Williams finished second in 7.19secs, but it was the fast-finishing Shashalee Forbes who took third in 7.28secs, as Morrison faded into fourth in 7.29secs. Quarter-miler Shericka Jackson of MVP, who was running in her first 60m race, finished fifth in 7.31secs.

More here

In reply to Headley

Raffickshaw finally did some postings.

Class 3 look unstoppable.

Wait for Gibson to tell more.

In reply to RoyalDad

The problem is the other two classes especially class 1.


Here is your boy Bann in the 400m.

Not a bad run, 48.38 I believe. A good coach could take off 1 second just by smoothing out the race and giving him confidence to finish more strongly.

In reply to Headley

Don't rush Bann Headley. Need him for all he's worth..especially class 1.Morris and Bryan still there too.

We're basically in same position as last year with class 1. Going in with a minus 30 pts already ( not having Matherson ).

Class 2 is much better than you think. Stennett moved up.

But have to get a better feel for who we have overall.

Have to say though that CBars distance running will be a problem for us.

In reply to Headley

Who is this kid Jackson in class 1.Take a look at his 200 meter run and tell me your thoughts.

Check your sources Headley. Matherson on Trackalerts interview today talking about when he will debut for the season. Fact was mentioned about him going to school in US but it seems like he will run at champs with Mills coaching. Could it be so???

In reply to RoyalDad

I saw the Track Alert video. Looks like he committed to Fl State but will not be there till September. Good news. I thought he was gone for the Jan Semester.

Are you sure it's Jackson? Running 200m class 1 for KC? Did he run at Queens/Grace Jackson Meet?

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In reply to Headley

Cant find race. He was running in race with a Lowe from KC.

Tall kid it seems with smooth careful strides. Won race. Queens Grace Jackson meet.

YouTube now has interview of Matherson. If fit, we get back 10 pts. cause he'll probably only run 100.

Race was heat 5 200 class 1. The name is Jackson.

In reply to RoyalDad

Do you know what school? Post the race nuh bro.

There is a Jemoi Jackson from Mona High ran 23.00. He was number 55th among class 1 boys.

The results are at On The Run.

In reply to Headley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-NQcaDqtEw

Check link boss.

Youth look easy.

In reply to RoyalDad

Yes Jackson looks easy running 24 plus and was 115th. Lowe is a good long jumper.

Jackson ran for Herbert Morrison in 2016. Did 22.12 in the prelims and DNF in the semis. Wasn't at Champs last year.

We desperately need a sub 10.7 fourth man for the relays and the 100m. Hope he can provide that. We already have Bryan and Matherson for the 200m.

In reply to Headley

Goldsmith meet this weekend.

May see some more bright spots.

Wonder when Matherson will debut.? They will hold him out for as long as possible. Notice you have not seen any Taylor or Russell either. Guess they don't have anything to prove.

Gibson will tell more. As a KC event, they have to show their hand.

In reply to RoyalDad

Part of the reason for holding out the stars is that they will have meets after Champs so the coaches don't want them to peak too early in the season.

KC has a class 3 youth who ran the 200 at Queens/Grace Jackson and did 24.34 without pushing himself in the last 100m because he was way out front. He also does high jump but he's doing 1.80m and 6.00m in the long jump, so he's no big jumping talent. His name is Blaine Byam. I am wondering when the coaches will realize the youth is a natural 400m and 800m runner? When I find the 200m video I will post it.

Here it is.

I plan to be in Ja to attend the Gibson Meet. Will let you know more later.

In reply to Headley

Powell for Millrose in New York on the weekend

In reply to Headley

As stated, our class 3 is crushing it.

The class won almost every event they ran at QGJ.

With speedster Kerr at the same class level, they will send him ( Blaine ) elsewhere to garner more points. Your 400 thought is not a bad option. Are the twins still in class 3 ( Giovanni and his brother ).

Man,Jago has this speedster also in 3. Is he related to Chambers?

Jamaica's golden run is over.

Sad!

In reply to RoyalDad

Class 3 looks good but I do not see any hurdlers in class 1 or 2. Our class 1 and 2 distance runner except Rodgers look ordinary.

The twins are in first year class 2 and doing ok. They should shine next year.

Chambers was in class 2 last year same as Sachin Dennis from Steths. I think Chambers came third or fourth behind Dennis last year.

If there is another Chambers let me know.

In reply to mikesiva

Powell said he was planning to retire this year. This should be his farewell tour.

In reply to Headley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbndxeDMhPM

This is the Jago kid.

In reply to RoyalDad

Javari Thomas from Jago. He did 21.97 at Queens/Grace Jackson. Decent time - would not have advanced to class 2 finals with that at Champs last year.

Was at Johnathan Grant 2016. Got to the finals of the 100m Class 3. Came 8th.

Looking forward to Youngster Goldsmith.

In reply to Headley

One time Mr G told me to go an try track. Him neva know wha me did know.

Anyone on the horizon to compliment our "crack" class 1 4 x 100? Matherson,Bryan,Hamilton and who?

4x4 may do us good with Bann,Bryan,Morris and........ Fill in the blank.

In reply to RoyalDad

Could be the same youth Jackson who you said was easy in the 200 or maybe Rosean Rowe or Oshane Peart both of whom were in the class 2 finals last year.




Maybe Rommel Plumber.

Just like last year I believe Matherson should forego the 200m and run the 100m and the 2 relays. He would only have to run the finals in the 400m relay - the last even of Champs. Lighten his load if he keeps breaking down.

Morris and Bryan are sub 48. By Champs both Bann and Matherson could be sub 48 too.

In reply to Headley

Lets hope Matherson does not break down. I agree with you about him only doing 3 events. Last year they had him doing too much pre meet stuff. Caught up to him at the worst time.

Jackson,Peart or Rowe on the backstretch. We know Hamilton can do a one burst 10 and change.

We're at best in almost the same shape as last year. Missing our triple jumper/ sprinter. Smalling,Christoff. Our hurdling hasn't improved or gotten worse. Pinnock is still an option.

Like I said, Gibson will show our hand, and what the future holds.

In reply to RoyalDad

We are about the same as last year. Maybe close.

Class 2 and 3 long jump may be better.

Not aware of our high jump as yet.

Our hurdling is weaker. Only Pinnock for third behind CBar and JC to date. Don't know what we have in class 3. Have not seen Davion Williams in class 2.

Distance is weaker Shane Buchanan and Kristoff Darby gone.

In reply to RoyalDad

isnt he at FSU? i am confused. i thought he was not gonna be breaking down uh i mean running for KC this year


Champs....just two months away..time flies..seems like yesterday that Jago and JC decided that there would be no purple celebration

In reply to rudebway

That was the info we got. Gone to FSU.

But TrackAlerts posted interview with him indicating that he will perform at Champs.

Lucky KC.

In reply to RoyalDad

Link


At Youngster Goldsmith

Andre Leslie of CBar wins heat 3 of the class 2 boys 400mH in 53.16.
St. Jago's Vashun Vascianna wins his 400mH heat in 57.23
Jordan Forest from KC wins his 400mH class 2 heat in 55.52.
Dean Clark of Calabar wins his class 2 400mH heat in 55.57.

In reply to Headley

Scary.
Just hope for the best.
Get to see where our hurdlers are.

Good question. Where is Davion Williams??
Shantamoi??
Are we holding out?

In reply to RoyalDad

Check this on Facebook. Track and Field Nerdz.

Shantamoi has been running well. Doing ok times in 400m and hurdles.

No sighting of Davion Williams.

In reply to Headley

Thanks for heads up.

Somewhat worried about our hurdles situation, but actually no different from last year.

Distance running also of concern.

Wonder what's going on with Davian.

In reply to Headley

Stephens win 100
Steady time. No pressure really.10.49.

In reply to RoyalDad

No info on Matherson. Have to wait for report tommorrow.

Decent time. What I would expect from Stephens.


Bann did 48.38 at Queens/ GJ and 47.65 at YG. I did say after watching the 48.38 video that he could improve by one second by smoothing out his race and getting some motivation from his coach. I don't think Bann has ever run a faster 400m.

Meanwhile

Jeremy Farr 46.75 PB

Shemar Chambers 46.84 .....(PB 46.65)

Bann 47.65 PB ?

Morris 47.70 ..........(PB 47.18 )

Morris did 47.18 at Champs last year. He should be doing 46 and change now. He needs to come out of the curve faster and challenge himself to finish stronger. He has shown glimpses of that potential a few times.

Ari Rodgers has not run since Kirkvine.

In reply to Headley

No video of YGS.

Bann is encouraging news. Morris, given a couple weeks should do better. Bryan should run 400 ..no?

Milo next week. We showcase here so lets see what develops.

In reply to RoyalDad

A few videos on YouTube posted by The CBar Distance Squad. I give them credit, they are keen.

If Bann and Morris running well it really helps because Bryan can run the 200m and the relays. Hamilton ran 10.76 at YG so he may run the 100m and the 4x100m.

Last year they had Bryan running 200m, 400m and relays. By the time the 4x400m came around the poor boy was done. Maybe Chris Taylor made it look easy.

Class 3 looking very good.

Adrian Kerr is even faster. The future is bright if managed well.

In reply to Headley

Did not see Kerr run. TAlerts posted results and did not see him mentioned, only other kid Nkrumie who was smashing. Runs very unorthodox.

Stennett looks good.

Saw the one distance race where the CBar youth caught the KC guy at the wire.

Waiting to see this weekend what Milo disclose as it relates to our future and upcoming class 4.Gibson should also provide glimpse.

Rodger's absence does not sit well.

Our field warriors holding their own.

Matherson anyone???

In reply to RoyalDad

Nkrumie should also win the class 3 long jump. Came 4th or 5th last year.

That was Farquharson catching Nicholas Elliot in the 1500. Elliot will probably do the 1500m and the 5000m.

I do not expect him to beat Farquharson but he will put out all he has. Hope he can follow Rodgers home in the 5k.

In reply to Headley

Calabar High School sent their strongest signal yet this season that they are intent on retaining the Mortimer Geddes trophy come the 24th of March.

The boys from Red Hills Road were in a no-nonsense mood at the Queen's/Grace Jackson Invitational Meet at the National Stadium last Saturday.

Beginning with the 400m, the Michael Clarke-coached boys swept the top spot in all three classes — Garth Henry winning in 52.14secs in Class Three; Evaldo Whitehorne winning in Class Two in 48.53secs, and Anthony Carpenter winning in 47.45secs in Class One.

More here

In reply to mikesiva

Yes CBar looking good. My preliminary analysis does not show any new areas where they will win significant points this year compared to last year. The fancy word for this is 'incremental' analysis.

Considering how close it was last year, the questions are "Which team has the capability to retain the points gained last year and get new ones?" "Which team is able to better avoid injuries?"

CBar's class one will excel again. KC's class 3 will excel again. A slight edge to KC in class 2.

I think we are about even with an edge to CBar because the record suggests they are being better prepared.

Conclusion is that it will be too close to call.

For the record CBar will not win the 400m class 2. Mr Watson of Petersfield has leased it for 2018. Similarly Mr. Williams of KC has leased the 400m class 3 for this year. If you are a betting man bet the house on these two.

In reply to Headley

Will offer my comment later.

In reply to Headley

Like your "incremental analysis" approach.
Very good point on who will keep points and gather new ones.

We lost champs last year because of our miserable showing in the final event of the day, the 4 x 400. I do not see this happening again as our barrel is locked and loaded to at least get second. "Do you see any other school challenging for second"? And herein your "analysis" approach bodes well for Fortis.

Which points can we keep from last year while also getting or improving ? That is the question.

Don't wish to have tunnel vision here, as I am not totally disregarding the other schools. Memory of that kid going in front of the CBar support and showcasing for them is still vivid. Cannot let that happen again.

JC,Wolmers and Jago will take points from both, but it is who will keep their points, while making new ones will decide the outcome.

In reply to RoyalDad

YG gone and the only videos available are the long distance races from the CBar Distance Squad. We may compete against them but we have to admit they are keen about T&F. Raffic Shaw had no YG videos!

In reply to Headley

And he( Raffickshaw ) is the sponsor of the event!! Go figure.

Report says we had a good field event performance. How true is that??!!

In reply to RoyalDad

Our field events are ok. Not as deep as I would like.

Last year I said we would come first or second in every class 3 race except the 400m where third was possible. I was wrong we came fourth in the 400m and third in the 800m.

This year I expect us to come first or second in every single class 3 event bar none except the 110m hurdles where third is possible.

In reply to Headley

Stennett, (Williams,Davian) and Shantamoi are all in class 2 now?

Yes,know they have to deal with Watson,but points should be OK here too.

I like our chances. Cant wait for Gibson. Yet, may see some surprises this weekend at Milo.

In reply to RoyalDad

i like him a lot.. saw him at champs 2 years ago... commented to some KC folks that he is one of the few alpha males on the KC team. i think this might be his last year in class 2

In reply to rudebway

Watson could dip under 47 by Champs. Shantamoi have plenty catching up to do.

BTW if you are not running 48.00 by Champs the semi-finals will kill you.

In reply to Headley

Is the CBar runner a recruit?

A year under your belt can do wonders......Taylor. Shantamoi could surprise. Wonder why we haven't seen him and Davian.

In reply to rudebway

My sentiments as well. Could surprise.

In reply to RoyalDad

Whitehorne has been at CHS for a while now, he is kin to former VTHS sprint sensation Deandre Whitehorne.

Brown is not in the same league with Whitehorne much less Watson. Brown should probably stay with the 800m and continue with the 400mH

In reply to JoeGrine

Whitehorne promised a lot last year. He must be another Calabar 'project' because he was unknown in class 3. Whitehorne appeared last year and had a moderate season after a promising start. We will see where he goes this year.

There was another CBar 'project' named Adam Whitelocke in class 3 with Shantamoi. Don't know what became of him.

Did Whitelocke become Whitehorne? Very confusing.

In reply to JoeGrine

Nice to have your input Joe.
Keep it coming.
Milo tomorrow will showcase KC and Wolmers.Looking to see what class 4 has. Anything on your end Headley.?
Last year we showcased Kerr. Now Nkrumie has joined him.

In reply to RoyalDad

I guess we have to wait to see who turns up.

46.75

Farr from Wolmers ran a fantastic 46.75 400m last weekend and might have some CBar hearts fluttering. I believe he has the second best 400mh time this season as well and his coach Mr. Hawthorne thinks he can win. Hawthorne did not leave Monk St. for Racecourse without good persuasion so he has a point to prove.

Nairne came third in the 100m in class 2 last year and could go sub 10.50 this year.

Both from Wolmers. Farr runs far (400m) and Nairne runs near (100m).

Keep an eye on both.

In reply to RoyalDad

Bloomfield 45.02

He slows a lot to negotiate the final bend.

In reply to Headley

400 final shaping up to be a cracker.

Bloomfield in early form. Tremendous speed.Our national 400 team looks very promising.

In reply to RoyalDad

Hope all the 400m men are fit for Commonwealth games. Problem could be the Games are early and may clash with College NCAA events.

Steths and Petersfield should be at the Milo Games so it will be a nice outing.

CBar class 1 will be on show at Camperdown Meet.

In reply to RoyalDad

the 4 * 4 the last two years were worth the price of my scalped ticket. KC can get second only if Jevauhney James and the other STETHS 800 runner have left school.

by the way, KC did not lose based on a "miserable" performance. the best they could have hoped for last year was 3rd. Steths has the two 800m studs. KC lost because of the pride and fighting spirit of JC and Jago. they were not going to make KC win champs after the african runner ran around with his flag. its that simple.

In reply to rudebway

With all due respect Rudebway,KC needed to just finish 2nd and champs was ours. That simple.
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In reply to rudebway

Steths has James and Ledgester this year. Is Javed Black still in school? Who else do they have this year?

In reply to RoyalDad

At Camperdown Classic

#Class2BoysshotPut

Ralford Mullings(left )15.32m was first and second was Chevaughn Fletcher 13.91m both of Kingston College right second, third going to Calabar Daniel Bayeshea 13.53m

I believe this boy Mullings is in class 3 (will check). There is no class 3 shot putt so he is competing with older boys..

In reply to Headley

KC seems to have done well at Milo again.

Who is Rajawn Davis? Class 4 kid.

Won class 1 4x4 barely.
Also class 1 4x8.We have a good quartet here.
Class 1 4x1.Seems Bryan anchored. Could not tell.
Class 3 4x1 by a nose.
Hope I was viewing the right videos posted.
Lacking hurdlers bad.

Sachin Denis.....unbeatable in class 2.

In reply to RoyalDad

Don't know the class 4 youths.

Yes I believe you got it right. Pinnock is our only hurdler and he is looking at third this year. We need a good 800m man to finish the medley relay.

At Camperdown Classic:
Event 32 Men 400 Meter Dash CLUBS

Carpenter, Anthony 19 Calabar High 46.45
James-king, Malik 19 Calabar High 47.07

In reply to Headley

Matherson ran at Milo.

Bann and Watson battled it out on the 4x4.

That CBar 4x4 is now a formality. Too much firepower.

In reply to RoyalDad

ok..i guess he will be running at Champs... i was a bit confused since there were articles that he is at FSU. You all better handle him with kids gloves.. 100m and 4 * 1. thats it.

In reply to rudebway

No argument from me sah.

Headley may differ.

In reply to RoyalDad

I would use Matherson sparingly before Champs and just 100m and 4x100m relays at Champs. There is life after Champs if you're smart.

I have not found the 4x400m or 4x100m videos from Milo Western Champs. All I've found is a bad video clip of the last leg from the 4x400 with Morris catching and passing the Petersfield youth.

In reply to Headley

Same here.
Mat looks like he has put on some weight based off of Nerdz pic.
Raffickshaw slacking.

In reply to RoyalDad

If all the events were class 1 CBar would be a sure thing.

Link

Champs this year will be three the hard way.

In reply to Headley

We both know why Mat is not running. I would not either.

Have you heard anything on Rodgers? Maybe I should call North Street.

Yes,their class 1 is veerry good.

In reply to RoyalDad

Rodgers ran and won the 3000m at Milo over the weekend. Davion Williams won the class 2 110mh too in a slow time. All now present and accounted for.

GLASSES MAN!!!!!! 46.69

In reply to Headley

Yes. Things are heating up sah.

Morris ran a blistering 400 there.

Stennett looks very good.

Where is our class 3 sprinter Kerr who ran 2nd to Stennett in last year's class 3 100 final??

I am troubled by our lack of hurdlers and distance runners.

In reply to RoyalDad

Kerr ran at Queens/Grace Jackson and ran a decent time. He has been running sparingly. I suspect they are being cautious.

We have a few distance runners, Rodgers, the Henry twins in class 2, Rhoden and another class 1 youth whose name I cannot recall now. He will come second in the 1500m class 1.

It is the hurdlers where we have fallen down since Omar Mc Leod in 2013. We have youths who have won or come second in class 3 and then disappeared. If I was the coach I would rest our best hurdler Pinnock until next year. He will come third or fourth at best. I would let him do only the long jump since he is also our best class 1 long jumper with the longest jump so far this season and a back up on the relay.

In reply to Headley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9m20n1dDv4

Obviously Stennett didn't run here.

Is Nkrumie now faster than Kerr?

Sad state of affairs with hurdlers man. Big decline as you say. Lets see how they handle this. Surely, staff must account now.

In reply to RoyalDad

Stennett :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c7T2aqR4Xw


400m Finals

Taylor 45.84

Morris 45.93

Big, big PB by glasses man!!! Making Taylor work for it.

Roshaun Rowe first year class 1, second in the 100m behind Stevens. I like the class 1 progress. Rowe leave some big names behind. Looks like we may have a relay squad.

https://www.facebook.com/tracknfieldnerdz/

In reply to RoyalDad

KC Shanthamoi Brown takes the class two boys 400mH Gold in a new meet record 52.66 second sliver calabar Andre leslie 52.97 second Bronze Dean Clark 53.51 second.

Remind me never to underestimate Shanta again!

In reply to Headley

I guess you can hear a pin drop now at the Red Hills road compound after what transpired today and still yet to come.

They jumped out of the blocks displaying their readiness, but Fortis never get ruffled.

Big run by Morris. Where was Carpenter>?

Splendid performance by Rowe. Anyone for an upset??!!

Shantamoi has the goods. Have to big him up.

Our field unit will have to make up any shortcomings by the hurdlers and distance.

In reply to RoyalDad

Elliot was the class 1 boys 1500m runner I could not remember earlier.

In reply to RoyalDad

On February 9th I posted:

Brown is not in the same league with Whitehorne much less Watson. Brown should probably stay with the 800m and continue with the 400mH

In reply to Headley

Will check out the Nerdz site when get home or YTube.

In reply to Headley

i posted earlier that he is the KC runner with the most guts. i expect him to do well this year

In reply to JoeGrine

Well said Joe.

CBar winning everything, but do you see the points spread?!!

217 /192.

Nuff said.

In reply to RoyalDad

Haven't taken a look at the points landscape as yet suffice it to say CHS/KC/JC will secure the top 3 spots.

I will do a total breakdown around a month from now.

In reply to RoyalDad

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them send a message to north street

CBar did very well today. They have a very balanced squad. If anyone finds the class 1, class 2 or class 3 400m races I would be grateful for a link.

In reply to rudebway

Well, that was expected. Their 4x4 is unbeatable as is evidenced by the time. No argument from me here. They did great today.

As for a message, it's loud and clear.

In reply to RoyalDad

is Rodgers back at KC? i had heard some rumors that they might not keep him, but I assume that they will.

Will also be interesting to see if the purchasing department at Red Hills Road has responded in regards to the 5000M. it wont be a 16 point gap this year since i think Buchannon has left school.

In reply to rudebway

He is there.

Red Hills have a strong distance team.

It was 3 point gap last year.

In reply to RoyalDad

Ok thanks. Wasn’t sure about Rodgers.

In regards to the gap, I know the final result of champs was a 3 point gap. Which KC couldn’t overcome in the 4 x 4.

By 16 point gap, I meant that KC got first and second in the 5000 meters and Calabar didn’t even have an entrant. That’s huge.

In reply to rudebway

True. But CBar is loaded in areas which KC lack like hurdles and middle distance.( 800/ 1500 ). The CBar distance squad have been posting their success since season started.

If you go by Westen Relays, it is all about KC.

If you go by Corporate Area Champs, Calabar don’t win Champs already.

I am going with lesser evil, JC.

Pity I will not be there this year to see it in person. For those can, it would be great to witness it in person.

In reply to Headley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uP90uIzdN4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbcsY5D4Y7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9jfUnVmKy0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CdUAWyqugA

Maybe you've seen them but here.....

Rowe looks like he was watching Stevens and Stevens the same. Depth of field is poor.

I need to see Gibson to assess our readiness.

In reply to RoyalDad

Thanks. I had seen two. Very positive. It's clear to me that Rowe and Morris have more in the tank. Stevens and Taylor have more as well but they will have competition. Very, very pleased with Glasses Mans' finish.

In reply to Headley

Antonio Watson stole the show on yesterday's third day of the County of Cornwall Athletics Association's (COCAA)/Digicel Western Championships at the Montego Bay Sports Complex with two sparkling runs less than an hour apart, both in new meet records.

The IAAF World Under-18 400m gold medallist was clocked in 21.24 seconds in the boys Class Two 200m final in a dead heat with St Elizabeth Technical's (STETHS) Sachin Dennis, last year's winner, and then returned less than an hour later to run 48.63 seconds, while toying with his opponents in the 400m final.

The 200m time was faster than the 21.50 seconds set by Darrion Bent of Mannings in 2005, while the 400m mark bettered the 49.30 seconds set by Ashad Baker in 2006.

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In reply to mikesiva

Since weekend I have been reading that sentence over and over again.

He ran 10.66 last year in the 100m and used to do some shot putt from time to time just to keep active.

In reply to Headley

It was a ding dong battle for both in the 200.Very good talent Watson. Wonder how much better he would be wearing some royal silks?

Do you know if anyone carrying Gibson this weekend? TVJ/ CVM?

In reply to RoyalDad

Sportsmax, I think....

More here

St Elizabeth Technical High (STETHS) boys and and Rusea's High girls retained their titles as the County of Cornwall Athletics Association (COCAA) Digicel Western Championships ended at the Montego Bay Sports Complex on Saturday evening.

The STETHS boys piled up a massive 389.5 points, over 100 more than their nearest challengers Petersfield High (286.25), who were also more than 100 points better than third-placed Munro College (165), followed by Cornwall College (159 and Rhodes Hall (137).

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In reply to mikesiva

Thanks.Was hoping TVJ or CVM would carry.

Should be interesting as rumors are flying that the Red Hills road team will not participate after feeling slighted by KC at their

Wint/ McKenley event. As a point of note, last year KC won all the relays because CBar sent no one worthy to compete. Should we feel
slighted? Heck no!!! But send your team and let us see where we both stack up> But I guess they don't want to show their hand .....this early or late.

In reply to RoyalDad

I arrived in Ja on Wed. I am in St. Thomas. My relative got fed up with Flow and took back the modem the week before I arrived so only limited internet access is available. Went to Gibson and had a good time. Had to leave before the 4x400m. Looks to me like Shantamoi ran the third leg and blew the race open.

Flow matter resolved. Should get internet by weekend.

In reply to Headley

The four starters were Bryan,Morris<Shantamoi and who was the 4th? Did not see Bann. Anything on him?

3.09 not bad. Have some catching up to do though.

Very pleased with the 4x800 team. We can do more things now.

Have you heard anything on Matherson? Hope he is well. He should not run anymore till champs.

Class 3 is smashing. Stennett holding his own in 2.

Did not see a medley team.

Class 4 on point. JC had a fortunate day.

Raffickshaw posted all the major races on YTube.

I will say now, JC will do no worse than second at Champs 2018 .

In reply to archangel

Wow that sounds good.

Say it is so Joe.

In reply to RoyalDad

KC's 4x400 = Bryan 48.5,Rhoden 47.3, Brown 47.8, Morris 46.4

other splits:
Clarke (Jago) 48.1 lead off
Watson (Petersfield) 45.6

Some interesting 4x800 splits:

Jago 2nd leg (Cox?) = 1:53.1
Rhoden (KC) = 1:51.0
Rowe (KC) = 1:53 looking around
Clarke (Jago) = 1:52.1

In reply to JoeGrine

Very encouraging Joe. Our distance team looked sketchy at best, but this is good.

Bryan seems to have lost step this year. Should have been doing as well as Morris. Still, we're looking at a tall order to beat 3.05.

3-4 weeks to champs. I like what I see.

In reply to RoyalDad

I could see KC's best team add Bann and Matherson? getting to 3:07 which would be fantastic, however, 3:05 is big man stuff.

In reply to JoeGrine

Matherson is as durable as a wet paper towel. i think it is best to limit him to 100M and 4 X 1. Any more, and he will probably strain a toenail.

In reply to JoeGrine

Did not see Bann after Milo relays where he did well in 4x400.Guess they are playing it safe.

Matherson would be a nice addition, but we're still 20 meters behind.

CBar said they opted out of GRelays because of upcoming meets...Carifta and Digicel. Lets see what transpires. As some stated, there are no class 3 and 4 athletes running for Carifta. So why didn't they run??? Oh well!!!

Clock is ticking now.

In reply to RoyalDad

Don't know what is the reason but something is wrong with his progress over the past 2 years.

In reply to JoeGrine

Thanks Joe I could not figure out who it was because I am not accustomed to seeing Rhoden run the 400m. He is not either. The looking around and the staying on the track after the hand over shows the inexperience. I hope he was not injured in the fall.

If this is accurate it's a fantastic time for a first year class 1 boy 3 weeks before Champs.

In reply to rudebway

Maybe you should stop and think. Your comments do not seem appropriate for school boy athletics. Last year I ignored the alpha male nonsense because to counter that I would need to point out that these alpha males are not getting scholarships and are not representing Jamaica after school either. I hope you get the point.

In reply to RoyalDad

I swear Shantamoi drew a gear when he started the bend for the last 200m.

BTW If Morris continues to improve and runs sub 46 in the Champs final it changes the whole dynamic of the 4x400m relay.

Usually Taylor and Carpenter or Taylor and Brandon Heath can relax and win the 400m with Taylor cheering on Heath or Carpenter for second. If Morris and Carpenter are in an all out fight for second then Taylor will need to run not cheerlead. If Taylor, Carpenter and Morris go all out in the 400m race the times in the 4x400m relay will not be anywhere close to 3.05

In reply to Headley

Correct. neither Cbar or KC is setting the world on fire in terms of runners that transition to the national level. Calabar seems to run runners into the ground... Ramon Batman McKenzie.

But i will have to respectfully disagree with you. Its hard to view it as "school boy athletics" when you import a runner from Africa. The old boys of both schools invest a lot, with a goal of winning champs. That is it. and i was simply stating that from observation, in my opinion, the Cbar recruits seem to have an intangible.

In reply to Headley

Shantamoi ran very well. Held his form and kept moving. Still, he will have to contend with CBars Whithorne in class 2.Could improve somewhat by then. But his leg was most impressive.

Hope Morris didn't leave his best race running against Taylor at Corporate meet.

Bryan has been mediocre at best this year. He and Morris should be banging heads to 46 and lower. Our chances in the 4x400 looking up.

Matherson didn't seem to be pushing in the 4x100. How did he look to you? Who was on the team? Was Rowe there? The 2nd leg for JC won them the race. I think it was Hamilton who could not keep pace with the JC runner. Hand off was also poor.

In reply to rudebway

I think we both like track and field and understand that we must be careful to always bear in mind that we are dealing with schoolboys. KC accepted a very good, some say excellent (top 3 in his class) student.

Calabar and JC have had a number of non Jamaicans on their teams every year for as long as I can remember, so the only issue could be distance from place of birth.

In reply to RoyalDad

I am not sure who ran the first leg. It may have been Roshaun Rowe. It may have been Peart who I believe ran second. Hamilton I believe ran third. Matherson finished. Hand offs need work. The second leg runner was caught sleeping, started slowly but madeit up somewhat. Matherson cut the gap by half and then eased off. JC baton changes were sharp as usual. They have a good relays coach.

Remember the coaches may still have some or all of these sprinters under loading.

Neither Shanta nor Rhoden will be available for the 4x400m since they each have 2 tough individual races.I hope Bann is well because Bryan is a 48 plus leg. He runs the first 200 like we used to in the seventies. Something just does not add up, for a youth with so much talent.

It must be said that the coaches overworked him last year.

In reply to Headley

With that said, the 4x400 will surely comprise Bann ( if fit ) and ( keep fingers crossed/ hold your breath ) Matherson Bryan and Morris. Joe had speculated on this, so it could happen.

Are we looking at 3 teams dipping under 40 sec this year?

After Corporate and Gibson,I am more optimistic.

In reply to RoyalDad

Don't think they will use Matherson in the 400m relay this year. He has not run a competitive 400m so far. They should have last year. Let's hope he does not run the 200m.

This is likely.

The Gibson event that is not getting enough attention is the Edwin class 3 4x100m in 44.76 secs. It was the fastest girls 4x100m in all classes on Sat and it would have come third in the Womens final. It would have beaten the boys class 4 4x100m.

In reply to Headley

KC will achieve 2nd place in the 4x400 without Matherson so no need to run him there. All being well, CHS will not lose that event so why run Matherson?

If KC has a very legitimate shot at winning the title double him in the sprints plus 4x100 otherwise, 100 and 4x100 only.

In reply to Headley

Matherson per the 4x400 makes sense....as our closest rival was JC at Gibson...granted CBar will win the event.

Are either of you ( Joe included ) nervous on Matherson with regards to his fitness? Right after the semi final against Stevens last year he got injured. This year it may be worse as JC is now in the mix along with an improved Rowe and Wilson.

To Joe's point using Matherson only if KC can win running the 400. Last year he was a 48 man at Milo ( don't quote me here ). Could be a toss up with the coaches. And as we can all see, he is being handled very gingerly this time around.

In reply to JoeGrine

Talk of using Matherson in the 4x400m is just speculation. Kc needs a fourth to ensure second place and the best two possibilities are Shanta or Rhoden.

In reply to RoyalDad

If Matherson is training at Racers as I've heard then they will take no chances unless he is 100%.

I plan to be at Carifta Trials on Sat and Sunday. We will see who turns up.

The competition on Sat between Javon Francis and Demish Gaye in the 4x400m was very exciting and I am planning to live long enough to see Nathon Allen, Bloomfield and Chris Taylor added to that mix. I don't think there will be time to have trials for C'Wealth Games this year and in any case Nathon Allen, Bloomfield and Chris Taylor would probably have other commitments.

It therefore means that I will need to survive until next June when we have trials for the WC.
Who knows, by that time Antonio Watson may be in the mix. Mouthwatering!

In reply to Headley

I hope you show up Friday and Saturday instead

In reply to Headley

Interesting Matherson will be at Carifta trials competing this afternoon.

When asked who was his primary challenge in the 100,Dejour said Matherson.
Same question posed to Taylor and he said Matherson in the 200. When asked if he thinks he can beat Matherson this year,he said " What can stop him!"

Like the mentality.

A very good sprinter will beat a very good 400 meter runner over 200. Ominous for Taylor .....if Matherson is 100%.

Gentlemen. What are your thoughts here.?

In reply to RoyalDad

I LOVE the mentality. I wouldn't bet against Taylor. If Matherson runs the 200, i am betting on Taylor to beat him. That being said, hopefully the brain trusts at North Street treat Matherson like a Home Sweet Home lampshade and only have him run the 100 and 4 X 1. It would be fantastic to see him run the 100 at full tilt, instead of deliberately picking it and then jogging the 200M for 1 point.

In reply to rudebway

All things considered, I too would like to see Mat in only the 100 and 4x100. As fragile as he is, that would be the best option.

But the thought of a fit Matherson/Taylor in the 200,and him against Stevens in the 100 would bring champs to its feet.And if this happens to play out, what a better scenario for the powers that be to promote such a clash of the high school titans.

Hope all stays healthy.

In reply to JoeGrine

I checked the JAAA site since reading your post. Link



I came, I saw, I heard Morris silence the Calabar crowd.

With a 46.01 clocking to Carpenters 46.19 and Antonio Watsons' 46.45 the roar when Carpenter was introduced changed to a scream. Not yet on YouTube but Carpenter in lane 3 or 4 turned the corner about 2 metres before Morris in lane 7. With 50 metres to go Morris had cut it down to 1 metre. The CBar crowd let out a nervous shriek as Carpenter began to tie up. Morris passed him with 5 metres to go.

I have not checked but the 46.45 Antonio Watson ran I suspect is faster than Chris Taylor's class 2 Champs record. We will see if Watson has the competition or the urge to do it at Champs.

In reply to RoyalDad

You will like this. Link

Glasses Man

In reply to Headley

Outstanding run from glasses man. If the crowd was as rowdy as when Bloomfield crushed the Javon Francis record and silenced the CBar crowd, then I can truly appreciate the performance even more. This kid has improved year after year, and my only concern was that he did not leave his best race on the track when he lost to Taylor at Corporate. Reminds me of Dennis " Jahman" Henry with his unwavering assault to get to the finish line. Darn. Only he had some of that Taylor speed at the beginning of the race. Would be very interesting with Taylor. Who was the other Fortis in the race.?

Nice win too by Stennett. Seems he needs to build on his endurance training as the other kid was on his case all the way.

Henry twins did well also. 1st year class 2,not bad. JC runner was well gone.

High jumpers are doing well sir.

Your guy Pinnock wins the long jump.

In reply to RoyalDad

Shantamoi Brown!!!

He got through the prelims and qualified for the finals but he has never run below 48, so he was out of his depth, but I think it was a smart move. He needs to work on his speed.

He is the fastest of the class 2 boys 400mh having run 52 plus at the Digicel Corporate Area meet.

BTW Davion Williams did a respectable 14.05 at the same meet in the class 2 boys 110mh to come second. Pinnock is our only hurdler in class 1. A case of very bad planning.

In reply to Headley

I kind of suspected it was Shanti.by the way he was swinging those arms.

Very bad planning indeed Headley with regards to hurdlers. How could this happen. I guess the planners know what we don't.

I gather JC will take points in the hurdles from everyone so that's one take on it.

Crunch time now. Next week Digicel.

No word on Bann?

How will Rodgers fare against the dynamic CBar duo in the distance races.?

Rudebway should read this to understand why we should make jokes, tease, support and big-up schoolboy athletics among ourselves, but as grown men we should not be getting personal with schoolboys. We had our time let the boys be boys.

In reply to Headley

i thought you had moved past that alpha male comment, but apparently not. Clearly the comment still bothers you. Almost reminds me of that line from Hamlet. But just for the record, even though i was expressing an opinion on KC athletes, i am not a Calabar old boy, and there was no deep seated resentment/rivalry/vitrol and certainly no personal animosity intended. I am from the Clarendon bush. My school will probably not score a single point at champs (well unless they get lucky in the medley relay).


I can assure you, there was no deep seated resentment or personal attack behind the phrase. as a track fan, you will recall that many people characterized Maurice Green as an alpha male. Not Tim Montgomery, not Asafa. I dont view the term alpha male as personal attack. I wasnt attacking the athletes intelligence, or whether they were articulate etc. KC and Calabar are engaged in a tit for tat game. It is what it is. i just like track and field

In reply to rudebway

Your comment could not be further off course. It does not address what I am trying to highlight.

I am trying to highlight the fact that grown men talking about schoolboy sports must avoid personal comments and focus on the schoolboys performance.

In reply to Headley

Digecel this weekend I believe. Chances are KC will take a low profile as champs is around the corner.

Of note. No Wilson from CBar since earlier meet. Remember last year he got hurt but showed up in relays.

In reply to RoyalDad

Yes I expect KC to keep a low profile.

Wilson was in the Carifta Trials U20 100m final. He came 4th. The CBar 4x100m is frighteningly fast and they have reserves.

Will not attend this weekend. Hope it will be on TV or internet. Still trying to find out what's the situation with Bann.

Seems KC class 2 long distance team is named Henry. Should be very strong next year.

KC doesn’t have a choice as far taking a low profile for Digicel. They don’t have the numbers going in.
That advantage is with Calabar and they will go for the big prize.

Although I think Champs will be super competitive this year, Calabar has a clear adavantage. Just look at the Carifta team.

Still think JC will do no worse than second.

In reply to archangel

You always did seem so rational! What has taken hold of you this year?

Hope you're not a betting man.

In reply to Headley

Hold on. I am going to give a prediction soon after the Digicel meet. You might nit agree but I am going to call it based on what I have seen so far for the season.

In reply to Headley

If you get an insight as to who may carry Digicel meet let me know. I have access to CVM and TVJ.

Apart from the twins, can Rodgers counter the CBar distance team along with his class 1 team mates? We did not show a medley team at one of the past meets, and I am concerned about that.

Archangel stretching his wings this late in the season. KC crushed Digicel last year. Did he predict KC would win champs then? And have JC finish 2nd this year.!

In reply to RoyalDad & Headley





You two guys are winning Champs all by yourselves right here on this MB.





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In reply to Ewart

We have a love for track and field. I love to see talent emerge and not just to crown them when they become kings and queens.

Maybe CBar will win forever. In the meantime the laughs are great.

In reply to RoyalDad

I am not sure but I believe Rodgers is still in class 2. It is our class 1 where the distance talent is sparse. Of course Rodgers will run the 5000m. Rhoden is performing well but he has Farq to contend with. All we have left in class 1 is Rowe and Elliot. I believe Rowe should run the medley and forget the individual race where he may get 2 points at best.

In reply to Ewart

Link

Maybe this will encourage you to follow the sport more closely.

In reply to RoyalDad

No. My prediction going in last year was Calabar. Then as I sat in the Stadium over the first three days I felt strongly that KC would win then we all know how it ended.

Right now I am not prepared to say who will win before putting all my stuff together. I am fully aware that so much can happen over the first few days to change fortunes.

Already JC has had a mishap. Not sure how serious but Everett was expected to steal some points in the Class one where KC and Calabar will go head to head.

Many expect a KC to rule Class 3 but there will be many surprises.
I suspect that when the relays start the title will still be on the line.

In reply to archangel

I will be patient and wait for your assessment. What is the situation with Everett?

I believe CBar is too deep and stocked with experienced class 1 competitors to be beaten this year. Unless they go on a procurement spree, next year (2019) they will struggle when I expect very few of their class 1 stars to be still in school.

I do not underrate their procurement capability but it is not as easy as it used to be. These country school coaches are crying blue murder when they lose their athletes nowadays. Of course these days boys who can contribute points at Champs tend to stay in school until they bump-up against the age limit.

In reply to Headley

As you well know recruitment has gone international for awhile now so as much as small schools are trying to hang on their student athletes that will not deter the big ones.

It will be interesting to see where, if anywhere, the Indian student athletes end up next year. Schools are in the hunt and Calabar has the inside lane, I hear but the drawback is that most of them speak very little if any English.

Look out for way more Caribbean based student athletes to make their way at the big schools.

Everett pulled up at Carifta.

In reply to archangel

I think KCs class 3 will be dominant this year. Too much quality and depth.

Our class 2 will hold its own. Cant say that for our chief opponent. Unless I'm missing something.

Likewise, CBars class 1,especially their distance contingent will be hard to challenge.

If KC can stay close, and need a relay to move ahead, then I like our chances. Our 4x400 is a strong 2nd unlike last year. The medley is just as potent. At Milo, we won the 4x800. We may have a surprise or two.

Schools have to recruit to stay close or ahead. If Headley is right, KC needs to step it up. And he is totally correct in stating that come next year, CBar will struggle unless their class 1 athletes stay. The big picture shows them needing a lot when the Taylors and Russels leave. Meanwhile KC is stacking up from the bottom up, and it is only a matter of a year when without a doubt, we will get to the top again, if not this year.

In reply to archangel

yes...preach it. call a spade a spade.. although some purples claim that Ari Rodgers is a top student..blah blah blah.

i expect Calabar to win this year. i dont think it will come to the last race (or thoughts of a lawsuit)

But i think Royal Dad's assessment is spot on. by next year, KC should be on top.

In reply to Headley

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Oh... I saw that long time. have no problem following the sport closely.


But following and talking are two different things, no?






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In reply to Ewart

I guess if you're a voyeur!

Just saw that Raheem Chambers ran his PB in the prelims of the NCAA Indoor Championships. The coach at Auburn must be doing something right. Nathon Allen, Bloomfield and Chambers all have made significant progress. I have not even mentioned the girls.

In reply to Headley

All three are doing exceptionally well. The rest for Bloomfield last year seems to have done wonders.

Chambers looking to be a future powerhouse. His physique has changed significantly.

What can we say about Allen. The guy is a true 400 meter man.

In reply to Headley

dont forget Jonielle Smith is in the 60 Meter finals


its on ESPN 3. they just started the live broadcast

In reply to RoyalDad

Then you are missing something

In reply to RoyalDad

Chambers second in 6.53. lost by .01 got nipped on the line

In reply to RoyalDad

#DigicelGrandPrixFinal

new meet record 52.16 secs KC Shanthamoi Brown Holds off Excelsior Devontie Archer 52.22 3rd going calabar Andre leslie under 17 boys 400mH

In reply to rudebway

Thanks. Will check it.

In reply to RoyalDad

Nathalia Whyte and Jonielle Smith 3rd and 4th in the womens 60 M

In reply to Headley

Bloomfield second in 44.86. nice.

In reply to JoeGrine

Joe
You've been mighty silent. Anyway, waiting on your final assessment for champs.

In reply to Headley

And Pinnock crushed the long jump record for any schoolboy with his 7.99.

In reply to rudebway

I am very high on these two young ladies. Hope they keep moving forward. Smith got a raw deal at qualifiers last Olympics.

In reply to rudebway

This youth will make Ja proud one day.

In reply to RoyalDad and Rudebway

Good performances all around but that wind legal 7.99m from schoolboy Pinnock is world class. It is longer than the Champs record by 13 centimetres. (30 centimetres is a foot)


BTW 1Spotmedia Early Early Bird Champs Package, all 5 days, $25.99 ends today. Tomorrow $27.99. D

Rusheen McDonald post 2015. Hearing this for the first time.

This boy has so much talent that he might confuse his coaches.

I will start my Champs preview today with the Open Events.

The battle will be keen here between the principals with KC having the advantage. I expect Ary Rodgers to figure prominently for the purples. He could be the star performer although we await the clash with Kevroy Venson possibly in the 5000m. Expect JC to figure here as well. Initially I though they would show up better in this category but the numbers say, KC, Calabar, JC in that order. Look out for Petersfield and St. Jago for upsets and Mannings in the Javelin. The Decathlon is another event that the big schools will dominate.

KC could get in the high 40s maybe even 50 with Calabar not far behind barring DQ or major injuries: A caveat for all predictions of course.

In reply to RoyalDad

I should have my preview by the weekend.

As far as a preview of the preview. It's really a two horse race with the "brave" trying their "utmost" not to "yield" as they strive "for the highest"

All right gentlemen we will try to be patient but it's difficult. There used to be a Champs Preview. Is it still being published?

My first prediction is that the class 1 boys 800m will be as exciting as any other race at Champs 2018. The class 2 800m will not be far behind.

U20 Digicel/GC Foster
Add Rhoden and Tyrese Reid to this mix. Of course it is possible that the semis are so hot that some big names do not make it to the finals.



U17 Digicel/GC Foster

In reply to Headley

400mH both classes will be special as well.

Class One
The high powered Calabar is expected to dominate Class One. Many feel that if the school from Red Hills Road is to win Champs, they will have to double up in many of the Class 1 events. They are too big too strong here with Captain Chris Taylor leading from the front. Looking to see if Michael Steven will report for the start of the 100m as well as KC’s Matherson. That would be the most awaited clash of the championship. Many will be looking to see if Commonwealth selectee Dejour Russell reports for the start. Keen to see how KC’s hurdlers perform this year given the disappointment of last year and KC Graham now gone. JC will have a say in this class. I expect Calabar, JC, KC, St. Jago in that order for Class One.

In reply to JoeGrine





ARISHA!


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In reply to archangel

But you have not mentioned the Class 1 field events. If you were not finished my apologies, but your analysis has been anticipated for some time. I know JC has pole vaulters. In what other field events will they dominate or score top 3 points in class 1?

In reply to JoeGrine

Joe

The higher you strive, the bigger the fall.

This year will be close again. Like I said, if KC is close with relay ( 4 x 400 ) coming up, I like our chances.

In reply to Headley

JC should do well in the jumps, especially triple jump and long jump. They have a pair of triple jumpers who did well at Carifta Trials, Savfin Willis and Malik Cunningham. Traditionally JC puts out good jumpers so expect that trend to continue.

In reply to Headley

The NERDZ site is showing a virtual tie with KC and CBar in class 3,and a CBar run away in class 2.

Don't see that.

Class 1 is understandable.

In reply to RoyalDad

Class 3.

KC has a good class 3 400m runner Tyreke Williams but I have not seen him run for 3-4 weeks. The class 3 800m and 1500m is weak. Another case of bad planning. Obviously we have the 100m, 200m and relay covered. I expect us to do well in both jumps. Not much in the hurdles and distance.

We will outdo CBar in class 3 but it will not be enough to make up for class 1. Class 2 will be close but CBar will try to put 2 finalists in every event. Their planning is better than ours.

I've been observing the T&F Nerdz site. It is not the most objective T&F site.

There is a 400mH progression chart on the site which a third former would find embarrassing.

In reply to JoeGrine

Yes Rovane Williams, King James in class 1 will be worth the price of admission. In class 2 it seems all of a sudden that Leslie and Clarke are not as invincible as we thought. Brown and Archer plus those 2 with the emerging Forrest will be a likely sub 52.

CHS could possibly win all track events in Class 1 and this is where KC will likely lose Champs. Such strength has not been seen in the top class since 1987 (Jago) and 1974 (KC) - only lost the 100m then.

As stated above KC should win Class 3 but will lose Class 2. Having dominated CHS with their Class 4 and then Class 3 teams, this turn around by the now CHS Class 2 team tells me CHS has out recruited and outcoached KC in this class.

Other notes:

1) JC lacks the depth to compete with both CHS and KC
2) CHS has really picked up the slack in the distance events
3) KC has really slacked off in the hurdles.

Stranger things have happened (see 2017 when on paper KC should have dominated Champs or 1982 Camperdown) and it will require "stranger things" for anyone but CHS to win. Injuries to their Class 1 sprint juggernaut could be among those "stranger things"!

In reply to JoeGrine

Possible yes, likely no.


The emergence of Shanta Brown, Forrest and Davion Williams in class 2 hurdles suggest that while the KC hurdles dept is not flourishing it is far from dead. If the class 3 surprise is effected it may be that at the end of Champs, CBar's hurdles points are no greater than KC's.

Class 2 promises to be more competitive than Class 1 but still Calabar is expected to score heavily. Their star performer could be Venson as he should go in the 800/1500. Some major clashes to look forward to will be STETHS Sachin Dennis up against Andre Bent of William Knib and Terrique Stennett of KC in the 100m. Can Dennis beat Antonio Watson of Petersfield in the 200? The latter starts firm favorite for his pet event, the 400m for which he is the current IAAF under 18 champion. Expect St. Jago, Calabar and KC to do well in the hurdles. In the 400m hurdles Shanthamoi Brown, KC, is rounding into good form but don’t expect it to be easy as Calabar has a pair of hurdlers that will give him good competition along with Devontie Archer of XLCR. Looking for Calabar and JC, KC and St. Jago to do very well in this class.

In reply to Headley


Please explain to me how we are not objective??? We plug the data and the program generates a graph, that graph is not based on opinions it is simply based on what the athlete has done this season.

Our graph BTW is projecting Shantomi to win the class 2 400 meter hurdles.

In reply to archangel

Calabar is weak in the class 2 sprints and the may ask Whitethorn to double which will be a huge mistake, that 200 is too hot for him especially with Watson now moving away from him in the 400 and the rest of the field catching up.

In reply to JoeGrine

Top class analysis

Calabar has the edge in class one with their super pack of CT, MS,TW, DR and will be backed up by the likes Chang, Chambers, Carpenter and Bennett.

The Key for KC is to minimize the damage done here which means Tyreke Bryan has to turn an injury hit season around, Matherson has to at least win the 100, Banned has to be able to run the 400 with Morris, Wayne Pinnock has got to take the silver in the 110 hurdles finals and has to be back up by Lowe with big points and Finally Rhoden has to take some scalps.

These are the keys to a KC victory as I have them ahead in the open events and in class 3 while class 2 will be about even with Calabar having the edge.

In reply to Jamstar

I am very pleased that T&F Nerdz is trying to fill a void. Congrats to you and those associated with the site. Ask Joe or anyone you believe has good editorial skills to peruse your content. I am not a grammarian but there is a point at which "base" meaning "based" becomes a distraction.

Your attempts to use graphs is laudable. Much respect. But you cannot just plug in the numbers and draw conclusions. You need someone with graph/maths skills to identify the output when it does not make sense.

You are making a very good start. Please do not stop. Take my comments as an attempt to make your publication better.

Objectivity is a matter of perspectives. If your graph is continuous for one athlete and discontinuous for another, it may require careful interpretation. I will leave the discussion about objectivity for another time.

In reply to archangel

Cannot disagree with anything you have said there.

Last year Venson won the 1500m and then was finished for the 8oom. Does he have the competition to push him this year? Blake, Tyrice Taylor and the Henrys do not seem to think he is unbeatable. Is he better able to cope with both events as a second year class 2 this year? Without Farq to guide him this year can he do it on his own?

Will he run the 800m,1500m double or the 1500m,5000m double?

In reply to Jamstar

1) KC is equally weak in Class 2 sprints outside of Stennet's 100m points
2) No need to double Whitehorne his points are not needed for them to outscore KC in this class.

In reply to archangel

In class 2 I expect the twins to account for themselves and this will counter whatever advantage CBar may have.( 800 / 1500 ).

As for Shanti Brown, he will / should win the 400 hurdles, and have a strong backup with his team mate who finished 4th at the recently concluded Digicel meet. The CBar runners finished 3rd and 5th.

I am alarmed at the supposed weakness shown by our distance squad.

I am also feeling same for hurdles, which Joe quite rightly stated was a big negative for KC.

But Jamstar made a point of fact statement which cannot be dismissed. The class 1 dominance by CBar is expected.But the sticking point could be how well KC picks up points from Matherson and Bann.....if they run. Remember last year we got the least points in this class, and still only lost by 3-4 points. Morris, Bryan and Rowe will account for points not seen last year even with CBar's huge dominance. In the 400 they were 1-2. Not this year. A fit Matherson will get more than the 1 point he did last year. Rowe seems to be on the improve, as he made Stevens run for his money at Corporate meet. And our 4x400 will be a sure 2nd this year after finishing 6th last year. These are points not achieved last year so we're trending in the right direction.

In reply to RoyalDad

Someone told me to note how sprightly Morris seems after winning the race while other men are bending over, lying on the ground etc.

Link

In reply to JoeGrine

Further to Jamstar's comment:

There is a first year class 2 boy Raheim Scott who won the class 2 200m last year and did 47.64 to come second, U17 Carifta Trials. He may just pick Whitehorn's pocket.

In reply to Headley

Without a doubt he has improved more than any 400 runner this year.

Carpenter seems to have stopped moving forward. Actually regressing a bit.

Taylor is just Taylor.

Who else will team with Morris in 400? Bryan? Bann? Since Bann ran that 200 against Carpenter, we have not seen either him or Matherson ( relays ). I seriously believe they have been holding them out for the start next week.

In reply to Walco

Renegade is not dead. We're still in touch. He was caught up in dem hurricanes last year.

In reply to RoyalDad

Actually Carpenter at 46.19 is running at his best. Can anyone recall Carpenter running sub 46?

In reply to Headley

no. i think you are correct. the 46.19 he ran was a PB when glasses man from KC overtook him.

In reply to RoyalDad


In class 2 I expect the twins to account for themselves and this will counter whatever advantage CBar may have.( 800 / 1500 ).

Given the expected points allocation, Brown winning and Forrest top 3 (not likely) barely moves the Champs winning needle in KC's favor, they need much more help.

The twins will do well to make finals beyond one of them top 5 in the 1500m.




Give Matherson the 100m win and Bann a 6th place in the 400m, that will not be enough for KC. Comparing last year's points distribution with anticipated points this year is not the most accurate way to assess the winning team.



That's looking at the KC side of the ledger and not CHS's who could counter that their 800m will score more than they did in Class 1 last year. Again, forget 2017 scoring. Furthermore, KC may be best served using Rowe in the medley to "try" and win that event as sub 1:52.5 may be required to score in Class 1.



And CHS distance and hurdles athletes will get points not achieved last year so they are trending in the right direction.

Reminder, forget 2017 points allocation, especially when you only look at it thru purple lenses

In reply to JoeGrine

The Distance events are a real example as to why Calabar are favourites in class 3 at champs 2017 KC outscored Calabar 24 to 2 in the boys class 3 800 and 1500 this year Calabar actually has a few guys who should score and may actually out score KC athletes.

In the 5000 and Steeple KC out scored Calabar 32 to 3, based on Rivaldo Marshalls times this year he should score at least 13 points for Calabar. KC on the other hand will struggle to replicate the quinella in those events.

There will be a slight pick for KC in the class 2 middle distance events where KC scored 17 points while Calabar who scored 25 will fall off.

KC will close the gap here but not there will be a gap heading into class 1.

Here KC will score additional points with Rhoden as the scored 0 points last year the projection being about 10 points while Calabar who scored 8 points last year look set to score at least 23 with Farquharson and the 1500 silver from last year Williams.

All in all that's a about a 30 point spread for Calabar and those points will have to be made up somewhere.

In reply to Jamstar

The Class 2 hurdles is a good place to start with making inroads.

In reply to Headley

He almost collared Taylor last year, and this year you would have expected something of the same. It is Morris who has taken the mantle to challenge Taylor.

Jamstar indicated Bryan is nursing an injury. Maybe can account for his under performing this year.

It had affected Bryan.

As to Carpenter he always looks this way at Carifta trials as a matter of fact this is the first time he has finished top 2 in the last 4-5 years but at champs he always finds himself on the podium. Last year for example he finished 4th at Carifta trials and then almost beat Taylor at Champs.


One of the key to winning champs is injury management, KC will have to do with with Bann, Byran and others what Calabar did with Russell and Stephens last year

In reply to Jamstar

Absolutely!! Injury management was their downfall the two times Matherson got hurt. This year is no exception. Bann has run twice this year, Milo and Corporate. Matherson at Corporate. If they can hold it to when it matters, the points they can possibly bring may be a difference maker.

In reply to JoeGrine

The balance sheet is rounding the numbers Joe.

The 400 with Morris ( a serious 2nd ),Bryan / Bann will give us points not seen last year.

I assume Rodgers is still a class 2 athlete. If yes, we have more positives here. The distance is not a total wipeout for CBar.

Shanti doubles in the 400 and 400H. More positive.

Stennett as you say will get some points in the 100/200. CBar will be missing here having to deal with Watson and Sachin.

Pinnock has to dominate in jumps and get that 2nd in 100H.

However, I'm still " nervous " what CBar brings to the table in these events.( hurdles ).

In reply to RoyalDad

I don't expect Stennett in the 200m!
I don't expect two KC scorers in the Class 1 400m
CHS improvement in the distance events will make the difference.
I will have my preview out sometime later or tomorrow.

In reply to JoeGrine

OK. Looking forward to it.

Rodgers is class 1 now

In reply to Jamstar

Well,KC will have some weapons afterall.

Major news now emerging Re both Taylor and Matherson.

In reply to Jamstar

Lets hear it sir.

Taylor will only compete in the 200 while Matherson might be out of Champs.

In reply to Jamstar

Smokescreen or the real deal. Have to go with latter.

In reply to RoyalDad

200 plus the relays and skip the 400. I heard those rumblings . I really hope Matherson is able to run

Still waiting on 100% confirmation re Matherson.

Today's schedule

Champs winners down the years

Top 5 Boys
Calabar
KC
JC
St. Jago
Petersfield


Top 5 Girls
Edwin Allen
Holmwood
Hydel
St. Jago
XLCR

Mathewson in Germany.

Big disrespect though. How are you making these decisions and the KC management not kept in the loop.

This athlete done with school.

In reply to archangel

Stream here

Results link