Minimum 10 ODIs
Walsh 43 Games 53% Win Ratio
Lara 125 Games 50% Win Ratio
Hooper 49 Games 48% Win Ratio
Adams 26 Games 42% Win Ratio
Shiv 16 Games 12% Win Ratio
Gayle 53 Games 36% Win Ratio
Sammy 51 Games 39% Win Ratio
Bravo 37 Game 48% Win Ratio
Holder 49 Games 29% Win Ratio
We need not wonder why we need to play qualifiers for the ODI World Cup. The only Captian in the last 23 Years to have a lower Win Ration that Holder is Shiv. No one sees this?
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ODI Captain Stats since 1995
I keep posting here...he is the worst ODI captain in our history...I think Shiv played some of those games with a scab team..didnt he?
Either way..20 game minimum
Holder is the worst forking ODI captain..EVER..Shiv prolly lost to Oz, England and SA too.
Holder team not even good enough to be asked to play any top team.
PAKISTAN..dont want us to tour..smh
In reply to Cornfused
And they call this progress
In reply to DIEHARD
Team effort, bro! Holder is just one spoke in the wheel!
Walsh is the most successful ODI captain since 1995
Now who would have thought it
And Holder is the worst but he is captain for life.
I do not understand why people are attacking a captain for win/loss percentages in a team sport. Look at the guy's personal contribution and focus on that.
Leadership is overrated in a team sport. Some come out looking great simply because they have a great or good team. Look at Sammy and his WC wins.
In reply to DIEHARD
Shiv realized very early he didn't have what it takes and RESIGNED
HOLDER IS HOLDING ON TO IT FOR DEAR LIFE
In reply to anandgb
Don't overstate Lloyd's leadership then..he had a hugely talented bunch to lead..
In reply to anandgb
based on performance.....does holder deserve a spot in the side?
When I saw Bravo's social media statement, I put it on ignore.
In reply to openning
Which Bravo....and what he said?
In reply to Narper
That's what gets me!!!
Why is he refusing to resign.?
Him nuh have no shame
In reply to Khaga
Exactly my point. In a sport where you have 11 players, each is accountable for success.
In reply to XDFIX
U right.. He's really just indicative of this paradigm shift..where personal preference and politics trumps performance..and look where we are now
In reply to Narper
Holder has actually been performing better than more than half of the team. so that says he alone is not responsible.
In reply to openning
Did he state an untruth?
Or you put it on ignore because the comment was made by bravo?
Bravo failed with a team of Stars,
If Dwayne Bravo had a winning percentage, we can have a discussion, but the team in the ODI and test format has been struggling for decades.
It is the T20 team, Bravo should be talking about, because that team has been dismantle, which is a shame.
In reply to anandgb
That's the half than shouln't be in the side too
But his on field cappoship stinks...his bowling changes...his field placings
In reply to Narper
In reply to anandgb I agree. But, the rest of wi fans need to ask, If it anit JHO, then who?
A captain record is a reflection of the team he leads
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
The Trini way is, who has the best losing percentage.
Should we diminish Lara record because of his three stint as Captain? He suck worse than professional blow jobbers without a knife. I personally think Allyuh Trinis should go at it alone and left de rest of us to cuss each other!
In reply to WestDem
Amen
It would be nice to see the breakdown over the 3 stints
In reply to openning
Bravo failed with a team of Stars,
If Dwayne Bravo had a winning percentage, we can have a discussion, but the team in the ODI and test format has been struggling for decades.
If the team been struggling for decades, how long ago before that was bravo captain?
Besides, Holder is a dismal failure despite having a team full of Balan stars. And we all know when Bajan cricket strong, West Indies strong.
Yuh nuh have he pun ignore tho.
In reply to Cornfused
Yes Holders record is vey poor but when I look harder I see that according to these stats we have been failing for 25 years across all Captains. So who will make it better do you think?
Can someone compare these cappo stats with those of other international cappos since 1995
In reply to imusic
After all these years, you think I support players like Holder or Carlos as captains on any team.
I would be a hypocrite, I dislike Scabs, I dislike the Sammy selection, and I also disliked Jason and Carlos as West Indies captain
But this is about Dwayne Bravo's social media statement, comparing his losing record to others.
In reply to openning
And again...did he lie in his social media statement?
In reply to openning
Why are you concerned about thee facts Opening? I used to see you stand with the facts.
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
When captains of the past were dropped for the teams failure interesting to see how things change now.
In reply to Pacy
I would had supported his facts if there were in the winning column, but to compare his losing stats to others, need know further discussion
In reply to openning
I think you are looking at the data with anger.
Win % of Stephen Fleming one of the famed captain is 48%. Arjuna Ranatunga too, the best captain of SL had a win Ratio of 48%. It just reflects that the team is can win on its day but not consistently.
My problem with the numbers is that, instead of finding someone who can take us from 48% to 50+% or building a team that can take us to 50%+ record we had brought it down. When someone asks, you said I am bad but why did you make it worse it has all the justification it needs.
Dont you think so?
In reply to imusic
We talking ODI cricket here. What Bajan stars in the WI ODI team?
In reply to analyst-kid
Who coined the phrase: modest sucess and devastating failures...or words to that effect?
Good Monday morning,a hearty FUCK OFF and get ah forkin life to the Trini bashers BTW.
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
Had a better record than gayle, holder, etc. 50% WIN RATIO, 2 ICC Tournament finals,1 icc trophy
In reply to Jumpstart
Lara as ODI captain enjoyed good success. 3 Champions Trohpy finals, if you factor in the first ICC knockout tournament in 1998 in Dhaka..
In reply to Jumpstart
The one Bajan Browne and Braddy won?
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
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