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Rabada handed two-Test suspension
Narper
2018-03-12 11:45:52
Kagiso Rabada has been suspended for two Test matches, after he was found guilty of a level 2 code of conduct offence in Port Elizabeth. The incident took place on Friday when the South African fast bowler made physical contact with outgoing batsman Steven Smith.
Rabada received three demerit points, taking his total to eight within the last 24 months. According to the ICC's rules, that activates a two-Test ban, meaning the Man of the Match from St George's Park will not be in action at Newlands in a week's time, or in Johannesburg on March 30.
"I found that there was contact between Rabada and Smith," the match referee Jeff Crowe said. "And in my judgement the contact by Rabada was inappropriate, and deliberate. He had the opportunity to avoid the contact, and I could not see any evidence to support the argument that the contact was accidental."
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natty_forever
2018-03-12 11:47:59
... suppose they are friends? 
Narper
2018-03-12 11:48:21
Rabada reported for conduct breach for second time in P.E Test
Kagiso Rabada's disciplinary issues continue to haunt him, with the ICC confirming on Monday (March 12) morning that the fast bowler has been reported for a new level one offence.
The fresh charge relates to the send-off he gave David Warner after dismissing the Australia opener on the third day of the second Test at St George's Park - the same day that he was contesting a more serious charge related to his on-field behaviour on the first day.
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Narper
2018-03-12 11:49:24
In reply to natty_forever
Then make contact in private 
natty_forever
2018-03-12 11:51:43
In reply to Narper... referee to watchie watchie ...
mikesiva
2018-03-12 11:59:25
In reply to Narper
Morkel now has a chance to say farewell on the field.
BeatDball
2018-03-12 12:05:40
He will learn as nuff food is taken off his table! However, Otis failed to impress Kagiso with, 'granny of the windies would say, you must know your place & behave properly!' & that's no lie!
Brucie
2018-03-12 12:21:06
In reply to BeatDball
granny of the windies would say....
Runako Morton said that?
Verstehen
2018-03-12 14:24:52
djdrastic
2018-03-12 14:35:47
Fsck
Hopefully he learns from this.
WestDem
2018-03-12 14:57:58
In reply to djdrastic
Trying to find a video of this but cannot....Want to see fuh first before judging...I don't trust dem OZZIES....Smith probably saw him coming towards him to give him a send off but was smart enough to initiate the contact knowing Rabada was in his space...knowing fully well a ban is on the horizon!
Devin
2018-03-12 15:02:58
Devin
2018-03-12 15:04:51
In reply to WestDem
He continues to scream in the batsmens faces after dismissing them. He did make contact with Smith. He needs to cool it.
djdrastic
2018-03-12 15:12:33
In reply to Devin
That thing he did with Dhawan in the ODI series was stupid as well.
You've already won the battle mate.Go and celebrate with your mates and let the batsman go brood in the changeroom.
Ninetenjack
2018-03-12 15:31:32
Rabada was found guilty of a Level 2 ICC code of conduct offence for 'inappropriate and deliberate physical contact with a player,' and fined 50% of his match fee by match referee Jeff Crowe
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KR needs to cool it, I hear he loves to watch Youtube videos of the old West Indies fast bowlers. Well he could learn a thing or 2 from them on sledging and send-offs since they did neither.
However on this incident, I saw it ....not sure it was
deliberate. Jeff Crowe and Chris Broad both have a history of coming down hard on players. Just like that he has killed the series.
WestDem
2018-03-12 16:16:42
In reply to Devin
Thanks for those link...saw it and he did make contact...he needs to cool down for real...his talent is scary enough for the batsmen...he is young and will lean!
TheTrail
2018-03-12 16:32:16
Rabada has to learn to control his temper.If he doesn't, teams will target him in order to get the upper hand on South Africa's teams. I hope he has learned his lesson from all these incidents.
carl0002
2018-03-12 16:39:33
Walco
2018-03-12 16:42:07
In reply to carl0002
He got three demerit points for that incident, which took his total to 8 points. Eight demerit points get you a 2 game suspension.
carl0002
2018-03-12 16:47:32
In reply to Walco
But boss how u go give demerit points for Rabada and none for Smith in that situation. Who had the right of way? You think any bowler of a paler hue would have been suspended for that even if they 6 demerit points. The video is inconclusive at best.
Ok and even if you issue demerit points that certainly don't deserve a full 3 unless its mandatory 3 points for brushing the whiteman.
Nobody even broke stride or anything.
imusic
2018-03-12 17:10:37
Chris Board regularly got away with doing similar on the field
Guess it helps when your Dad is the match referee
Who was more bad behaved than Andre Nel? Sundry Australians? Ben Stokes? Ian Botham?
Is one rule for “blackies” and no rule for the rest
Ridley Jacobs get banned for breaching the code of conduct. He didn’t even appeal but get banned anyway.
Meanwhile, characters like Rodney Marsh, Ian Healey, routinely teef and not a peep from officials about “code of conduct” 
NineMiles
2018-03-12 17:14:50
In reply to imusic
Chris Board regularly got away with doing similar on the field
Guess it helps when your Dad is the match referee
Stuart Broad!
Walco
2018-03-12 17:21:41
In reply to carl0002
The right of way question is easy. Smith established his path down the wicket to consult with his partner before KG started his path towards his teammates. So Smith had the right of way.
KG claims the contact was unintentional, but he has also acknowledged that he has to change his on-field behavior and stop hurting his team. I have no problem with the penalty.
Walco
2018-03-12 17:28:19
In reply to imusic
It's not just this series that Rabada has engaged in boorish behavior. He has had incidents with players of different shades. Even Ian "Mr.Switzerland" Bishop took a shot at Rabada during the WI game earlier today.
JahJah
2018-03-12 17:31:37
In reply to Walco
The right of way question is easy. Smith established his path down the wicket to consult with his partner before KG started his path towards his teammates. So Smith had the right of way.
KG claims the contact was unintentional, but he has also acknowledged that he has to change his on-field behavior and stop hurting his team. I have no problem with the penalty.
Kevin Garnett?
JahJah
2018-03-12 17:32:11
Walco
2018-03-12 17:39:49
carl0002
2018-03-12 23:01:53
In reply to Walco
Come on Walco, Rabada appealed turned around walked down the pitch to greet his team mate too.
No one broke their stride or path was impeded. That was a very light touch for a 3 test suspension.
Walco
2018-03-13 06:21:35
In reply to carl0002
Are you suggesting that Rabada did not see Smith walking down to the non-striker when he turned around? He did not get a two game suspension for the contact with Smith--he got 3 demerit points for that incident. He was suspended for three games because he got 8 demerit points over the past 12 months or so. He's a repeat offender.
By the way, that same celebration in Smith's face would have drawn a charge and a demerit point without any contact whatsoever. Note that Rabada was charged again for the sendoff he gave Warner in the second innings. The rules have changed, and the boorish behavior exhibited by Rabada over the past several months has been over the top. Rabada needs to be smarter about how he celebrates dismissals.
doublecentury
2018-03-13 06:42:13
Rabada is a very stupid boy.
The Aussies know that and sledge him relentlessly hoping to get this reaction.
Marsh called him a f...ing C... which came across loud and clear on the stump mike.They are careful that the abuse is not racist.
In the last match warner needled people all through.
Larr Pullo
2018-03-13 07:01:11
In reply to WestDem
The video is up on the other thread. There was little if any contact. He just seemed to scream in Smith face...
Logic
2018-03-13 08:03:44
In reply to Devin
Devin, you have got to have sent the wrong clip. That little contact I saw could NOT have been the infraction that caused Rabada 3 demerit points. They hardly touched. He did not impede Smith's forward progress though Smith clearly had a theatrical reaction to Rabada brushing his shoulder. Don't know much about Jeff Crowe but this is out of the racist Chris Broad playbook.
Interestingly Rabada did not appear to be even looking at Smith who however was looking at Rabada just before the contact. Smith could have given way to the pumped up bowler. He chose not to. I would not penalise Smith for this either but his late reaction tells me he anticipated the contact and was intent on making hay of it.
This appears to be a case of vested interests not being pleased that Rabada did not give sufficient deference to the Australian captain. This would not have been an issue if Dale Steyn had done this.
Walco
2018-03-13 08:09:58
In reply to Logic
Smith could have given way to the pumped up bowler. He chose not to.
Logic
2018-03-13 08:18:32
In reply to Walco
Are you suggesting that Rabada did not see Smith walking down to the non-striker when he turned around?
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Rabada was the one pumped up after getting the wicket. Smith clearly saw Rabada. Neither gave way, but they barely touched.
You don't get 3 demerit points for celebrating while looking at someone (I think that's your definition of "in Smith's face" because they could not have been that close if the nearest they came was shoulder to shoulder). So clearly it is the shoulder brushing that earned him the 3 points.
If you are saying that he must not be given the benefit of the doubt because of past behaviour hope you will hold the same standard for Stuart Broad, Dave Warner, Ben Stokes.... I suspect if Rabada had done of the off field things Warner and Stokes have done, far less their onfield antics, he would be no where near a cricket ground.
But Rabada must behave you say.
Logic
2018-03-13 08:19:45
In reply to Walco
Not amused.
Walco
2018-03-13 08:29:52
In reply to Logic
Warner was charged and received 3 demerit points during the first test for going after de Kock off the field without touching him. Not even a brush.
The rules have change within the the last year or so. You can't yell and scream in a batsman's face after dismissing him, and you can't brush him with any part of your body while yelling and screaming in his face. Rabada needs to adjust and follow the rules.
Walco
2018-03-13 08:32:11
In reply to Logic
Smith could have given way to the pumped up bowler. He chose not to.
Rabada could have given way or taken a wider path after seeing the dismissed batsman walking towards the non-striker ... He chose not to
Devin
2018-03-13 08:51:12
I don't really care about the shoulder bump, what I don't understand is why he barked in Warner's face after dismissing him for a second time in the match. He doesn't seem to learn. Maybe he knew his fate already m
I can't be too critical. The Aussies bring this out in you, and if you're already the aggressive/angry type, good luck. He was pushing it a bit against India as well, but I don't recall the hollering at batsmen being this blatant.
Everyone says there's a fine a line, but where is the line? Who defines it? If you allow a little bit of sledging, or a send-off, then it's only a matter of time before the situation escalates and gets ugly.
Logic
2018-03-13 08:54:14
In reply to Walco
Warner was charged and received 3 demerit points during the first test for going after de Kock off the field
You make it sound like an off the field incedent is less offensive. I would suggest otherwise.
Re Rabada giving way I would suggest that you look at the video frame by frame. Rabada's back was turned (appropriately appealing to the umpire) when Smith started walking. Smith was initially walking at an angle that would have taken him to midoff. Radaba turned and walked straight down the pitch. Smith changed direction enough to do the same. In fairness his change of direction may have been initiated by him becoming conscious that he should review the decision with the non-striker. However his body sway when their shoulders brush was not innocent and was intended to exaggerate what was a mild brush of shoulders.
Logic
2018-03-13 08:58:22
In reply to Walco
Anyway, it should be interesting to see in the future whether mild brushes of the shoulder will warrant bowlers as much as 3 demerit points.... and for that matter whether it will be consistently bowlers and not batsmen who will be penalised.
Logic
2018-03-13 09:22:48
In reply to Walco
OK. I have got to swallow one on the shoulder brushing charge. Just saw another angle and yes the contact was mild but I have got to admit that Rabada could at least have avoided it. 
Walco
2018-03-13 10:22:09
In reply to Logic
I am a Rabada fan and I hope he learns to channel that natural aggression and not let opponents get under his skin. He has the chance to be an all-time great.
Having said that, Rabada has the amazing ability to act like an asshole without coming off like an asshole. His facial expression never shows rage in the way that Sulie Benn or Dale Steyn look when they are upset. That's a gift 
Narper
2018-03-13 13:11:21
In reply to Walco
He does lose it completely for many seconds only after he gets the wicket....and it subsides as fast as it came on..back to mild mannered Rabada.
Mike Holding said the obvious...a young player may make mistakes but must learn from them....but this may be a bigger issue for Rabada
He probably would need professional help with this problem....since he may carry the fear of losing it...and therefore also carry the fear of taking wickets.....too much distraction for the budding great fast bowler.
He has the best fast bowling action in world cricket today.
AND this young lad can bat...clean cricketing strokes.
imusic
2018-03-13 13:18:16
If he was a white Australian he woulda never get sanctioned
Narper
2018-03-13 13:22:07
In reply to imusic
Sophisticated match fixing?
Take the ace bowler out of the equation?
Walco
2018-03-13 16:47:31
In reply to Narper
Interesting take. I found it interesting that he said he did not even feel the contact when it occurred.
I also like his batting. He could be an allrounder with some serious work.
Norm
2018-03-13 20:24:42
In reply to Narper
Somehow, West Indians and Black African players always seem to get the harshest penalties from the ICC. Often, others involved always seem to get things interpreted a bit more in their favor than West Indians and Black Africans.
The ICC continues to be a huge farce, and will bring about the demise of the game sooner or later.
BeatDball
2018-03-13 20:34:26
In reply to imusic Lets not go there...when any player is to be reprimanded...alyuh must bawl, u hear? Dont do this shoite. He facted up, so he will be punished. That's all. Professional sportsmen should always be circumspect & prudent in every which way - the cameras are on them. Full stop.
Narper
2018-03-14 12:38:28
Kagiso Rabada to appeal ICC sanction
However once again South Africa are refusing to take the charge lying down, having confirmed that Rabada would appeal the charge. The ICC now have 48 hours to appoint a judicial commissioner to hear Rabada's case, and the hearing must take place within seven days of that appointment. The latest that the hearing could take place, therefore, is Friday 23 March.
The likelihood is that the hearing will happen before the third Test gets underway at Newlands on March 22, but the judicial commissioner could take some time to reach a decision. Nevertheless, under the ICC's regulations, Rabada will remain suspended unless the judicial commissioner finds enough reason to allow the 22-year-old to play while the appeal is pending.
CSA are in the process of compiling the legal team that will represent Rabada in the case, but the expectation is for them to present an argument for Rabada to play in the third Test. While Rabada could also play the fourth Test at the Wanderers if Crowe's verdict is overturned by the judicial commissioner, there is a risk of the sanction being increased.
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Larr Pullo
2018-03-14 12:41:08
In reply to BeatDball
Maaaaaannnnnnnn shut the fact up!!! You ever bowled fast? You ever get anyone out?
Khaga
2018-03-14 12:46:11
I have no skin in this..these muddafackers bawling racism act differently when it is Indian. Fact off you chip on shoulder rassholes!!!
Larr Pullo
2018-03-14 12:48:20
In reply to Khaga
You don't have a chip, you just have a white flag on ya shoulder!
Khaga
2018-03-14 12:51:10
In reply to Larr Pullo
Look at who is bawling racism..look who plays the race card every facking time..you are scarred..
BeatDball
2018-03-14 12:59:04
In reply to Larr Pullo I was opening batsman, ya fact! I cant even bowl medium! WTF, got U so riled? Take a deep breath & apprise me....
Larr Pullo
2018-03-14 13:10:26
In reply to BeatDball
..an a fast bowler never tell yuh HYMC and guh siddung in the shade?
BeatDball
2018-03-14 13:30:37
In reply to Larr Pullo Dem N G/T fast bowlers were in awe of my batting! Never mind it was a short stay at the crease!
Khaga
2018-03-14 14:33:52
Such aggression and anger are unlike a real African..wonder if Rabada has some North American roots..
BeatDball
2018-03-14 19:59:53
In reply to Khaga True true story! Dem african blokes are usually cool.
