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Dwayne Bravo hopes he will get to play 2019 WC
2018-03-22 18:01:56
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2018-03-22 18:03:13
Dreamer!!
2018-03-22 18:18:12
Sorry Pal but it go be too convenient dat allyu go be suddenly available for every ODI series de WI go play in de next year and a bit.
Whatever happened to personal reasons?
2018-03-22 18:18:21
Putting aside all the rancor between players and board I do hope and wish that he plays
2018-03-22 18:19:45
In reply to Maispwi
It is because of this mindset that WI cricket is in free-fall
2018-03-22 18:22:12
Johnny Bravo can not just walk back into the World Cup team.He has to play in the Super 50 next year and show that at 35 he still has the goods before he could be considered.
2018-03-22 18:22:54
Shameless!!!
2018-03-22 18:26:01
Dwayne Bravo would give a boost to the Windies but he shouldn't be considered until he shows some commitment to Regional Cricket, should he have to play a couple of List A games then so be it.
This is a man who was happy to get a break after the BBL to stay mentally & physically fit for other T/20 Tournaments.
2018-03-22 18:26:44
In reply to Dukes
no issue with that.
2018-03-22 18:31:51
In reply to Dukes
Co-signed.
2018-03-22 18:36:35
In reply to InHindsight
And is not the mindset of discarding players who have fought in the trenches while others are unavailable for personal reasons, for those very unavailable ones, dat have us in free fall?
2018-03-22 18:44:06
In reply to Dukes
Johnny Bravo can not just walk back into the World Cup team.He has to play in the Super 50 next year and show that at 35 he still has the goods before he could be considered
ALL players should be given a chance to earn a place. NO one should be selected on reputation only.
I have not checked the dates of our regional tournaments or WC 2019 dates......but our tournament should be scheduled to be completed as close as possible to the WC2019....and the WC Squad selected must be based solely on the performances of ALL players during the regional 50 overs tournament
Recently squads are being picked based on players'performances of 6-18 months earlier...or picked before the completion of regional tournaments...that is BS....
2018-03-22 18:51:13
In reply to Narper
Players like,
Lewis
Gayle
Samuels
Russell
Holder
Hope
Narine
Roach
Cottrell
Paul
Hetmyer
Only injury should prevent the above group from being selected.
I include Paul and Hetmyer, they're the future of the team, and should be persisted with.
2018-03-22 18:55:58
The best team must play period.
WI cricket does not belong to Cameron, the coach or the Board
And for anyone to say he should not be allowed to walk back into the team, well they have no clue about our cricket
2018-03-22 18:56:04
In reply to Narper
Lots of passengers in current squad.
I never imagined such nonsense like picking team before their performance in local competition.
Looks like guaranteed spots. Anointed captain? Definitely. No body else.
Not calling names but how will disruptive, egoistical individual fit in and affect the chemistry (if any present at all)
2018-03-22 18:56:04
Men want back in for the big WC pay day.
I'd stick with the team that went to qualification.
They can continue their T20 gigs.
2018-03-22 19:15:08
In reply to Dukes
He doesn't have to walk back he can stroll back in the team.
2018-03-22 19:20:02
In reply to Emir
Cricket belongs to West Indian, aliens do not sit on our Boards, they may be poor administrators but they are still west indian, that being said i would be prepared to face the world cup with the same group that got us there, those who opted out to play PSL and personal reasons will publicly have to declare their future commitment to the West Indian cause, can't have people showing up for the world cup and then disappearing directly after, better be willing to play some ODIs and T20s for us
2018-03-22 19:33:35
In reply to goofballs
Not calling names but how will disruptive, egoistical individual fit in and affect the chemistry (if any present at all)
The above makes no sense, to much contradiction?
2018-03-22 19:35:01
In reply to granite
He doesn't have to walk back he can stroll back in the team.
Any of the Trini's missing can do that.
2018-03-22 19:52:24
In reply to openning
Nope. I done with giving them chances.
2018-03-22 19:56:07
In reply to sgtdjones
I hear you, but at first blush only....
The question was how.
disruptive, egoistical individuals
are a dime a dozen. You can find them in any class, team, work situation, etc.
When a new one shows up, the chemistry will change.
If he has to be in the squad, how will he fit in?
You don't like the fit in part.
2018-03-22 19:59:30
In reply to WICFan
Dwayne Bravo would give a boost to the Windies but he shouldn't be considered until he shows some commitment to Regional Cricket, should he have to play a couple of List A games then so be it.
Same team got us there should play. I have given Dwayne and co. nuff support.
Not being available for the qualifications, shows there is no love for windies cricket.
Knowing this would be his last big tournament, he could have taken a break from PSL.
2018-03-22 20:02:31
In reply to number09
Dwayne is on the injury list, he did not play in the PSL
2018-03-22 20:11:06
Strongest team must play. West indies need some experience players or else they will not even compete against the top 8 teams in the world.
2018-03-22 20:12:36
And Dwayne Bravo was never asked to play in the qualifyier.
2018-03-22 20:36:52
Fuck Swayne. De one dat choose KKR before us! He can play with my dikky during de WC?
2018-03-22 21:18:53
Bravo the show pony wants to be on the world stage, oh well!
2018-03-22 21:26:27
In reply to goofballs
You don't like the fit in part. lol
These players have fitted in before when we won WC cups?
The problems are not associated with such, but by an inept management team.
Thus, your comments were unjustified and lacked meaning.
2018-03-22 21:27:49
In reply to WestDem
Cussbud
Go have another sarsaparilla
Which handle ya want me to use, since you claim I have others.
2018-03-22 21:42:07
In reply to sgtdjones
Ok, Baba! I just asked a general question but forgot the question mark and you are ready to go to war. 
Perhaps you can answer the question.
It is a big problem when rebels return, especially if they think they are special.
2018-03-22 21:52:57
In reply to goofballs
I don't fight I post facts, you will see such in my postings.
It allows any one to prove me wrong? When I see the other side
its how I learn.
It is a big problem when rebels return, especially if they think they are special.
Does the administration regard them as rebels or you?
In Caricom, aren't we known as a democracy?
In democracy, aren't we allowed to choose?
Now if we choose to provide for a retirement with a foreign entity
are such regarded as rebels?
Show me as you noted, where such rebels think they are special?
If someone, a player noted they would like to be considered, isnt it up to CWI to decide. No player chooses himself?
Now wherein lies the problem?
2018-03-22 22:12:12
In reply to sgtdjones
You need anodda form of attack Sarge! Rather than being a soldier, you are becoming one of the Bravos! Why is it allyuh think de world love mediocre people?
2018-03-22 22:17:35
In reply to sgtdjones
Would you select Dwayne for the WC, from not seeing him bowl more than 4 overs, since the Indian tour?
2018-03-22 22:20:08
In reply to openning
Sgt would select any Trini, he also think Barath was fcuked over!
2018-03-22 22:23:12
In reply to WestDem
I can see him playing at the T20 WC, but he should not be selected for any other format, until he compete in them.
2018-03-22 22:28:10
In reply to openning
Man look! I am pissed at these Trinis fighting fuh a T20 player making de WI T20 team, you think I have the attention span fuh dem fighting fuh an ODI which is 150% above his thinking?
2018-03-23 00:23:41
In reply to openning
Come on Limestone Opening
I am not fighting for any one.
If someone, a player noted they would like to be considered, isnt it up to CWI to decide. No player chooses himself?
See what I posted.
2018-03-23 00:27:21
In reply to WestDem
cussbud
Show me a muddie that helped won the recent World cup
Oh sorry none made the team?
Now you are being a sour crab apple.
If I pick a T&T team it would put a cutarse on dat CWI team
2 outa three games and you know it even with Hooper on ya team
2018-03-23 00:30:35
In reply to WestDem
Cussbud
Man look! I am pissed at these Trinis fighting fuh a T20 player making de WI T20 team, you think I have the attention span fuh dem fighting fuh an ODI which is 150% above his thinking? lol lol razz lol
One cannot make a statement as such until they are picked and fail.
The Trini's doh want to play for CWI administration until Dinas and Ganga
take over the T&TCB. Den watch the fireworks with CWI
2018-03-23 00:52:00
In reply to sgtdjones
All needed is a yes or no.
That Lime has been removed from my stone, ages ago
2018-03-23 01:20:34
In reply to openning
True. Dat lime replaced by tar sands 
2018-03-23 01:24:46
We can be all spiteful but unless we realise that winning and moving up in the rankings is what will bring the respect back to WI cricket in the world stage.
For all we know, Dwayne Bravo, like Gayle could have gone past his prime. Still excluding all of them for technical reasons only makes WI cricket weaker.
Now is the time to see what is the best combination that is going to succeed. We can continue the mud slug and we saw were it had taken us. We had to hang in there with the minnows till the last delivery to even participate in the WC.
It is a choice that WICB must make.
2018-03-23 01:31:48
In reply to Pacy
Live in reality dude. That choice has already been made. And it does not include either of the bravo brothers, pollard, Ramdin, Simmons, or Narine.
2018-03-23 02:10:58
In reply to openning
This man is a donkey. "comming back to CSK Is like comming back home" Dude You black not indian , the indians are using you to make money, as for playing in the world cup you are not . what have you done for your real team lately, by the way it doesn't pay much ( world cup that is ).
And I seem to remember that you have given up hope as far as representing west indies
2018-03-23 02:20:52
In reply to FanAdict
as for your half brother the 'billy goat'. He has half your brains . DEDUCTIONS: twice as stupid
2018-03-23 03:59:03
In reply to imusic
An extension of todays approach would discard all of them. Bus what are we achieving through this approach is a question I would love the WI cricket to ask themselves.
I understand the expectation is high and be unreal too but logically it wold be better if wee ask that question
2018-03-23 06:14:48
In reply to Pacy
What we achieve is giving the guys that fought in the trenches, at the qualifiers, experience at a world cup.
Who is he trying to fool... As soon as the WC done they will be gone again.
Let them go play T20 cricket.
Men want to pick an choose when they playing for the WI... No thanks
2018-03-23 07:16:28
It's a good thing WI cricket selectors and coaches not like those in football. Doubtful that any player in making themselves unavailable for qualifiers would make a Brazil, Germany, France, Argentina or English World Cup football squad.
2018-03-23 07:18:31
In reply to sgtdjonesThey are only pretending the big man.
2018-03-23 07:20:42
In reply to WestDem
Bharat was fcuked over "big time"!
2018-03-23 07:51:21
In reply to openning
Haven't seen Bravo featured much in the PSL.
Isn't he a part of $ammy's team that has made its way to the final?
He didn't play in Wednesday's Eliminator.
2018-03-23 08:42:39
In reply to Drapsey
Bravo is injured
2018-03-23 08:49:59
In reply to positiveg
K.
2018-03-23 11:22:37
In reply to granite
Dem Trini Players know dem not gonna get selected
by the big EDiot and brung
Dem Trini Players using the press to mad em at CWI
Watch this website when Phail Simmo and he afghans
put a cutarse on the CWI team during the tourney.
Cussbud westdem will threaten to leave the board again?
2018-03-23 11:25:15
In reply to sgtdjones
Cussbud westdem will threaten to leave the board again?
De next handle you will be accused of using is Cleg....Phail Simmo will see what de Law of the land come Sunday!
2018-03-23 11:25:56
In reply to openning
F@ck off Bravo !
2018-03-23 11:28:20
In reply to WestDem
Cussbud
He no longer Phail Simmo no more, he waiting fer
CWI team. Remember he put a cutarse on CWI without his two best players.
signed sgtdjones alias cleg
2018-03-23 11:31:35
Wow. This guy shameless
2018-03-23 11:42:57
In reply to Raggs
I'm sure Bravo is the fuss millionaire yuh ever cuss,that's a feather in yuh hat mate.
2018-03-23 11:43:36
In reply to FanAdict
link FanAdict Joined: 23-Oct-2017
FanAdict
Posts:23/03/18 02:20:52
In reply to FanAdict
as for your half brother the 'billy goat'. He has half your brains . DEDUCTIONS: twice as stupid
FanAdict
Posts:23/03/18 02:20:52
In reply to FanAdict
as for your half brother the 'billy goat'. He has half your brains . DEDUCTIONS: twice as stupid
Now you tell me who is the chupid one, see ya talking to yaself.
Soon the guys with a white truck will come fer ya and put you in a soft room, so you dont hurt urself.
2018-03-23 11:46:31
In reply to sgtdjones
Just big up their next big player in waiting Keemo Mandela Paul,the next Bravo,they already have the next Rohan in waiting Hittamayar.
2018-03-23 11:47:44
In reply to granite
I'm sure Bravo is the fuss millionaire yuh ever cuss,that's a feather in yuh hat mate.
money what is dat? loyalty is where is at...F@ck off Bravo !
2018-03-23 11:47:50
In reply to granite
OH Gawd
Cussbud will be here soon fer us.
2018-03-23 11:49:09
In reply to Raggs
Tell dat to dem bwoys who roamed the streets
in Jamaica deadbeats, after loyalty to the WICB?
2018-03-23 11:49:48
In reply to sgtdjones
As I said before them tits only wanted to play for big Phil.
2018-03-23 11:53:41
In reply to sgtdjones
Tell dat to dem bwoys who roamed the streets
in Jamaica deadbeats, after loyalty to the WICB?
in Jamaica deadbeats, after loyalty to the WICB?
loyalty to WICB or loyalty to the region and followers around the world that supports the team...F@ck off Bravo !
2018-03-23 11:54:15
In reply to tc1
Limestone tc1
Don't you support ya home bwoys
De same way dem bwoys supported Phail Simmo
2018-03-23 11:54:53
Kemo Paul spot goes to Dwanyne Bravo? F@ck Off Bravo !
2018-03-23 11:57:45
In reply to Raggs
DE Trini's know dem not gonna get selected
Don't let em mad you man.
2018-03-23 12:01:09
In reply to sgtdjones
I am a fan of all Barbados teams, but not all Bajan players.
I'll support players from any Island, base solely on performance
Insularity is in place, when we support one mediocre player against another, surely base on POB.
2018-03-23 12:05:25
In reply to openning
Dwayne is on the injury list, he did not play in the PSL
he did not play but he was picked up by the Peshawar Zalmi Squad.
2018-03-23 12:16:04
When was the last time Bravo committed himself to playing cricket for the WI?
That was a long time ago.
According to the bible the prodigal son returned and his father greeted him with open arms to the chagrin of the "good son".
Well this is not according to the bible and we do not live in biblical times.
I say stick with the team that endured the humiliation of participating in the WC qualifiers and narrowly escaped.
There has to be a certain principle in all of this.
I would rather we lose with the team we have than win with guys like Bravo.
2018-03-23 12:24:58
In reply to number09
Dude, Dude, BigB should be amount the first 2-4 players selected for any CWI/WICB T20 squad, but he should not be an automatic selection, for the other two formats.
Can you tell us how many runs or how many overs he batted/bowled, in 50 overs cricket, since the India series?
2018-03-23 12:29:37
In reply to openning
Did you get the impression that I wrote he should be an automatic selection for ODi or test
2018-03-23 12:36:07
In reply to embsallie
I say stick with the team that endured the humiliation of participating in the WC qualifiers and narrowly escaped.
There has to be a certain principle in all of this.
I would rather we lose with the team we have than win with guys like Bravo.
There has to be a certain principle in all of this.
I would rather we lose with the team we have than win with guys like Bravo.
+1....
2018-03-23 12:39:28
If we play 6 games and Gayle mek six ducks then amen wit dat. F@ck Bravo!
2018-03-23 12:49:02
I don't mind that the players come back, but they should do so on the WICB terms. At the end of the day the WI should play their best 11. Otherwise it will be an early exit.
The players who played the preliminary matches should be given a bonus.
2018-03-23 12:51:38
In reply to runout
how do you determine the best 11?
I would pick Paul over Bravo anyday (in today's circumstances).
2018-03-23 12:52:42
In reply to googley
Fair question. How about their performances in the local/domestic competition? We have until 2019.
2018-03-23 12:54:33
In reply to runout
That is pure hogwash! CWI need to keep this group together with a few more players and try to play as much ODI as possible till the WC so this unit can be competitive...We don't anyone to comeback just fuh be part of the WC so they can market themselves fuh de next T20 league!
2018-03-23 13:03:56
In reply to WestDem
Bro I hear you...however you look at this, for us to be competitive we need these players. Otherwise we have no chance.
Do you see how the minnows are challenging us, pushing us to the limit? I know that they are opportunists, however we can use this opportunity to use the opportunists to our advantage.
2018-03-23 13:12:31
In reply to Raggs
Gayle is not going to make 6 ducks, he would score one ton .
2018-03-23 13:12:52
In reply to runout
Bro I hear you...however you look at this, for us to be competitive we need these players. Otherwise we have no chance.
do we have a chance to win the tournaments wit these so called experienced players? I wonder sometimes with the fans of windies cricket ! if we had not qualified these same clowns would be laughing at us via the WICB board.
2018-03-23 13:14:57
In reply to tc1
Gayle is not going to make 6 ducks, he would score one ton .
the point is he deserves a place cuz of loyalty no matter what his willow brings. these skunts like bravo and pollard don't.
2018-03-23 13:16:38
In reply to Raggs
I agreed 100% stick with the team that took you to the WC
2018-03-23 13:17:34
In reply to runout
Who is Bravo again?
Not a Sobers, Lara or even Gayle!
Mediocre performer at best.
The fact that these guys chose to not play under the present administration and now to come running back shamelessly is mind boggling, embarrassing to a Caribbean man and culture!
None of them is special to have a guaranteed spot. I think they were asked and their touts yahso declare that they would never play under Cameron.
I don't like Cameron but as a matter of principle (for those guys) they should not beg.
2018-03-23 13:18:16
In reply to Raggs
We stand a better chance for sure...no point of debating the merits of our performance when we haven't played the WC yet.
2018-03-23 13:19:26
In reply to runout
a better chance with who? name these winners of yours?
2018-03-23 13:22:30
In reply to Raggs
The Bravos...Ramdin...Russel...Narine
2018-03-23 13:26:50
In reply to goofballs
Bro, I hear you...but don't you think that they are the ones with egg on their faces coming back to croos the same bridge they cussed?
can't be a pprofessional unit and hide grudges.
Let them play, or let our current boys prove themselves. Whatever, I just want WI cricket to be at its best on the world stage.
2018-03-23 13:30:31
In reply to runout
I just want WI cricket to be at its best on the world stage.
Why you think those would make them be at their best? What is so wrong with this bunch that are playing the WC qualifiers?
Dude! Playing in the 2019 WC will be less stress that what this group just went through and this group DESERVE to finish the job if FIT!
2018-03-23 13:31:45
In reply to runout
The Bravos...Ramdin...Russel...Narine
Russell had a lame frigging excuse the others are white belly rats and also not world beaters by the way
2018-03-23 13:32:30
In reply to goofballs
We said!
2018-03-23 13:37:00
In reply to WestDem
Westy, Raggs, Googy...your arguments are full of merit: loyalty, commitment etc. are also high on my list. However, I still believe that the players, if around, can only nhance our chances.
2018-03-23 13:39:22
In reply to number09
Well said! Those who faced the fire for four group games and three BigSixes should be the team to represent WI at WC2019. Enough time for them to improve their skills [and Chris Gayle to get fit again - his own words!!!].
Of course Bravos Bros Russell and the others have great experience but where were they when these current lads are slogging in the trenches??? Still another game on Sunday vs Afghanistan - no Bravo Russell nnnnnnnn available. We will still be glued to the online feed to see how we fare but.......win/lose, we are in WC2019.
2018-03-23 13:42:31
In reply to WestDem
I had seen their apparent point a few months ago and was hoping WICB could have worked something out, but the players refused. Gayle and Samuels did not (and they did not ask any Guyanese 
)
Their hidden agenda was to show that WI cannot win without them, apart from blatantly saying(ok Sarge at least) that they would never play for Cameron.
So I have changed slightly. About half this current team is below international standards but to see them fight hard to beat back street team says something about effort and dedication.
To have some so called "big stars" (my foot) just walk in with their inflated sense of worth will put back WI cricket another 5 years.
2018-03-23 13:49:28
In reply to goofballs
Gooffy, bro, please don't forget that we benefitted from a huge slice of luck!
I like that the team played without the seniors and won, but now we are stepping up in competition.
2018-03-23 14:13:15
In reply to runout
When last you see any of these prima donnas play any format longer than 20 overs, at any level? I have nothing against them but they have already made their bed and now they can go rest dem sk**t in dey.
2018-03-23 14:17:14
Let them compete for a spot.
Pick your team based on past performance and form, that shouldn't change.
Fact is some of the newbies might get selected over Bravo, on that basis alone.
It's that simple, its not rockrt science, leave the emotion and vindictiveness out.
I really am not sure if anyone other than Russel could make the team, I'd say Narine..but figure he'll be banned for life by 2019
2018-03-23 14:26:12
In reply to DIEHARD
Correct
2018-03-23 14:48:10
In reply to runout
You are the only one that noticed how lucky we are to qualify.
Against the top teams next year we goona be fodder.
Then watch these same posters call dem names.
Ah copy and pasting some comments fer next ya.
2018-03-23 15:40:07
In reply to goofballs
Their hidden agenda was to show that WI cannot win without them, apart from blatantly saying(ok Sarge at least) that they would never play for Cameron.
That's it in a nutshell...their unavailability was well coordinated and look like it backfired...watch and see suck up from now!
2018-03-23 15:41:10
In reply to sgtdjones
Sarge!!!!!
Hope you enjoy a great weekend.
2018-03-23 16:08:29
In reply to runout
He will have a great weekend...he going to a Pajama party hosted by Dinas!
2018-03-23 16:22:38
In reply to WestDem
how about if I say bring back Shiv? would you agree?
afterall, in 75 they brought back Kanhai to boost experience to the team.
what says you?
2018-03-23 16:23:50
We r the king of the minnows.....onwards to win th world cup.
This same squad...were recently shellacked by...NZ...Pakistan...England.... ...but now we beat we chest hard...king ah the minnows.
2018-03-23 16:24:26
In reply to johndom90
the world of the blind, one eye man is king!
2018-03-23 16:27:43
In reply to Raggs
gayle is now the loyalty player???
For real???
Is more like Gayle on the tail end of time and he gats nothing better to do..
...
2018-03-23 16:34:35
In reply to johndom90
Is more like Gayle on the tail end of time and he gats nothing better to do..
smile...
smile...
Nailed it..I dunno what is wrong wid dese people.
Thats why dont pick u forking team based on bullshite like "loyalty"
U pick the best, and u forge them into a team committed and focused on winning games..fork loyalty.
Pro athletes are loyal to whoever's signing their cheque..and it dont stop dem winning trophies..
We stuck in the 1960s!!!
2018-03-23 17:45:32
In reply to DIEHARD
We need to pick th4 best team. If Gayle shoes form and fitness he should be picked. Same with Samuels, Mohammed or whoever else that made this trip. If they are not better than others out of the curse t squad theyy should be dropped. Simple. The best team should go. Jason Holder is clearly a better all rounder than Bravo btw
2018-03-23 18:18:20
In reply to googley
No! If it was test WC, yes!
2018-03-23 18:26:43
In reply to jballer84
Last time Bravo pick up WI bat in one day he make the ICC international 11.
Wake me when Holder meet that..
2018-03-23 18:33:55
In reply to johndom90
Dude, if Bravo want to make any WICB team, he should be playing the format.
2018-03-23 18:43:23
In reply to johndom90
U fuh real, Holder is a better player than dancing harry
2018-03-23 18:43:49
World cup soccer....all foreign based pros roll in fir TT and yard.......to represent ..evev if u have to make birth certificate......
How it is WI cricket srew up with not only foreign pros..but most ah the old generals...govt....BCCI.....not Wipa anymore, them good....
What ah thing....
2018-03-23 18:57:43
In reply to johndom90
watch wen dem top teams beat up the CWI den
watch em bawl and cry on this site afterwards.
without dem Trini's it will be tough to make the playoffs.
the only one to make a werld eleven was the big boss
bravo.
posters want revenge like the big EDiot, so kick em trini's out and kiss arse brung agrees
2018-03-23 19:03:05
In reply to johndom90
Dude,do you seriously feel that Johnny Bravo should be playing 50 over matches next year instead of Jason Holder?
2018-03-23 19:20:37
In reply to WestDem
He will have a great weekend...he going to a Pajama party hosted by Dinas! lol lol lol
Cussbud
Notice I will never criticize any west indies player.
I hope they all make it like bravo, hehehehe
a werld eleven selected player.
CWI and brung are a dirty revengeful twosome , I will never support them.I am sad that we have reached minnows
level and now made to qualify fer World cups.
When we celebrate after qualifying in such a tourney, it tells a story of how low we have dropped.
Changes are coming at the stakeholders level, it gives
me an opportunity to have optimism, in a few months time
it will show up.
Until den its picong
2018-03-23 20:05:41
Give it up dwayne
2018-03-23 20:28:25
In reply to Raggs
F@ck off Bravo x 2 !
BINGO!!!
Mek de pelter, de doper and Cornwall lite hump one anedda tuh...dem mercs setta phonee homies...
2018-03-23 20:41:32
In reply to johndom90
World cup soccer....all foreign based pros roll in fir TT and yard.......to represent ..evev if u have to make birth certificate
Dude, if these guys were playing only 30 minutes soccer, you really think they could represent any team at the FIFA WC?
2018-03-23 21:56:58
In reply to openning
Focus on the relationship aspect....all other Boards have no prob with their mercenary pros....but WI.
No kind of relationship exists ....no win win. NZ is on song with their pros and it shows...all hands aboard, kiwis r kicking it.
2018-03-23 22:04:17
In reply to Dukes
In my posts thus far...I have never said Dwayne Bravo should walk into the team. He is a busy, in demand T20 man where the big bucks are...No one knows his form....
Maybe J.Ho. is a better all rounder than Bravo...but as I pointed out, let me see him make a ICC select one day 11, which is what Bravo did (only W.Indian) just before the West Indian bacchanal, contract cussout....Or be in the top 10 or something...memory foggy.
saying he better than Bravo sounds like whistling dixi.....
2018-03-23 22:15:26
In reply to johndom90
Even Keemo better than Dat dancing queen!
2018-03-23 22:22:27
In reply to InHindsight
Putting aside all the rancor between players and board I do hope and wish that he plays
Dwaye playing days for the WI are over. Somebody should tell him.
This WI Board, maybe no board, will pick a genius who brings an ongoing tour to end about failed negotiations. He was not bright then and he sure ain't bright now. Somebody please tell him before he embarrass himself any more.
2018-03-23 22:32:42
In reply to Headley
Takes two to blow up a negotiation,,.who was the president that wouldn't meet with the players after a unilateral cut to their pay after they were already on tour?
2018-03-23 22:36:00
In reply to doublecentury
Or go on a job the other side of the world...without a signed contract, and then find out in the middle of the job that...you salary cut.......
Meanwhile the boss flying first class overhead, no time to be involved.
2018-03-23 22:53:18
In reply to WestDem
Even Keemo better than Dat dancing queen
2018-03-23 23:59:47
In reply to johndom90
Next year we go hear all dem posters bawling
when CWI team gets its arse cut without em Trini's.
2018-03-24 05:48:19
I never for one moment thought that Bravo seriously said,he wanted to play for Windies in 2019 WC.Go back and read what he said and you will see he jokingly made a comment about playing for the Windies again.Would Bravo really care about playing for us,be sensible people,it had to be a joke and it was.
2018-03-24 06:28:44
what was the priority order again?
MI
TT
WI? 
Seriously these guys are beginning to validate the "theory of selectivity"
let us continue to move "fawud"
2018-03-24 06:51:50
In reply to johndom90
Maybe J.Ho. is a better all rounder than Bravo...but as I pointed out, let me see him make a ICC select one day 11, which is what Bravo did (only W.Indian) just before the West Indian bacchanal, contract cussout....Or be in the top 10 or something...memory foggy.
When the fact that Bravo made an ICC select one day 11 is your sole argument,you are skating on thin ice.As a matter of fact there is no ice and you are on the seat of your pants.
Guyana had an all-rounder named Randolph Ramnarace who played for a World X! and this was used by some Guyanese to imply he should have played test cricket.
I have examined the cricketing careers of these two chaps in the sort of detail that people like me deal in and I would say that Holder is slightly better at the moment.When you factor in his mental strength and attitude and the fact that he is 26 and Bravo 34 and he is actually playing 50 over cricket and Bravo is not then common sense dictates that this is a non-discussion.
Incidentally I think that Keemo Paul is a better bowler than both of them.
2018-03-24 07:09:01
In reply to Dukes
I have examined the cricketing careers of these two chaps in the sort of detail that people like me deal in
Oh skunt bannas!!! Who are you, Trump?!?!?!
2018-03-24 07:29:54
In reply to Larr Pullo
Trump does not deal in facts.
Remember I AM A SCIENTIST!!!!!!
2018-03-24 07:33:42
In reply to Dukes
In a forum such as this different points of view are welcome and illuminating...i accept your premise and follow your logic.
Bravo is probably past his due date at 50 overs...after India he was banished...so its moot him wanting to be at the world cup....pethaps Gayle as well.
Holder's cricket has progressed, maybe not as much were he not burdened with an albatross captaincy. My point is simple...that Holder is not close..to Bravo when at his prime. Bravo was the go to bowler, the switch hitter that could open the innings or bat at any order.
Another glaring difference between is bowling at the death..no comparison there.
I usually dont get into details and analysis on this Board because it usually deteriorates with inuendo and tangentals. Your analysis are always worth reading...
2018-03-24 07:35:36
In reply to johndom90
My point is simple...that Holder is not close..to Bravo when at his prime.
Holder may not have even primed yet. He has shown signs that he can improve in the LO versions
2018-03-24 07:47:08
In reply to johndom90
Will respond later
2018-03-24 08:11:41
In reply to doosra
Agree....tbe captaincy hasnt helped in that regard.
2018-03-24 10:19:46
In reply to WestDem
Cussbud
Show me the facts where he is better?
Bravo has been overlooked for selection in One Day Internationals ever since his crucial role in the controversial abandoned tour of India, in a players pay dispute with Cricket West Indies.
Since then, he has struggled with injuries. He underwent major hamstring surgery after picking up a serious injury in the Australia Big Bash in December 2016, and also recently nursed an anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) sprain of his right knee, which kept him out of the Pakistan Super League this year.
“I want to make it clear though that I never retired from playing for the West Indies, I have been available but just not selected,” said Bravo who has taken 199 wickets in 164 ODI’s and has a batting average of 25.36.
Bravo rejected this assertion but said he believed selectors should keep faith with the contingent who helped the Windies qualify.
Bravo further explained that he would never say “no” to representing West Indies, but stressed his health was his major priority at the moment.
Since then, he has struggled with injuries. He underwent major hamstring surgery after picking up a serious injury in the Australia Big Bash in December 2016, and also recently nursed an anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) sprain of his right knee, which kept him out of the Pakistan Super League this year.
“I want to make it clear though that I never retired from playing for the West Indies, I have been available but just not selected,” said Bravo who has taken 199 wickets in 164 ODI’s and has a batting average of 25.36.
Bravo rejected this assertion but said he believed selectors should keep faith with the contingent who helped the Windies qualify.
Bravo further explained that he would never say “no” to representing West Indies, but stressed his health was his major priority at the moment.
2018-03-24 10:40:34
So Bravo making a Trumpesque move after everybody laughed at him and accused him of being shameless apart from maybe not deserving a place based on merit. Except, of course, a few devoted but blind T$T posers yahso.
Nice back track.
"Joking" to test the waters! 
2018-03-24 15:40:41
In reply to johndom90
DWAYNE BRAVO
Jason Holder
What the above stats show is that Jason Holder at 26 is already doing as well as Bravo did and in all likelihood will do even better in the future.He has a batting average that is only marginally better than Bravo though at a significantly better scoring rate.He has a bowling record comparable to Bravo in ODI's and from watching him is getting better.
At the end of his career it would be laughable that Bravo was once thought to be better than him.
this debate reminds me of the Arthurton/Chanderpaul debate in 1995.
I do not want to demean Dwyane Bravo who was a fairly good cricketer but I think he thought he was better than he actually was.
2018-03-24 16:53:06
In reply to Dukes
There is not much difference to choose using those comparative stats. Witnesses to their performances and match situations will decide over the long run which was more effective. There is room and time for Holder to develop if WI allow and he does not get a Big $ contract -does not usually end well.
My attention span for WI Cricket is limited post 2007, but I need to see him batting up and down the order as needed, more death bowling, taking the the bull by the horns if you please...
Stats are useful indicators, benchmarks, record of whats done and I take that. Hooper's stats are unflattering , absolutely do not reflect the quality of the player when on song and in the mood and Viv- could have averaged in the 60's if he were of a different mind set...just saying.
2018-03-24 17:50:31
In reply to johndom90
Agree with you totally. Raw stats are just an opening statement.Important things like game situation and last day heroics such as Holder's match saving century against England count for a lot. Lara's best innings was his 153* to win that test match,which was far more important than his 375 and 400 combined.
We have to get our boys to play thinking cricket and improve our running between the wickets,how to try to score off as many balls as possible,turn ones into twos and have a detailed plan for all the key members of the opposing teams.
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