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and laughed

Humorous? Nah racist to the core.

In reply to Chrissy

maybe its just me but what he was saying is you dont look like the people i know who are from Manchester

Racist? it's a question of perception .... he was merely expressing what he was thinking ...... would I be bothered? not one bit because his opinion of me doesn't count and two i wouldnt be found in that setting

In reply to ponderiver

This!

In reply to ponderiver

And you believe his thinking only prevails in that setting? That thinking may be more pervasive than you seem to want to acknowledge --- reminds me of the Holocaust setting - First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Socialist.---- you know the rest – but then your postings are always in a certain recycled box ---

In reply to birdseye

But a white man belongs in Africa - racist to the core

In reply to birdseye

wow you gleaned all that from my comments

what if i told you that I already know how they think in and out of their circle.

what if i told you I don't give a rass what they think of me ...... I am not seeking their approval or love

......... thank you for taking the time to read them I really mean that ................. I am however totally undeserving of your valuable time

In reply to Chrissy

Goes to show titles, accomplishments etc does not necessarily brings class.

In reply to Chrissy

So why didn she reply dat he didn look like royalty either? Was she too much in awe of him to say so or was she just happy for the gaffe, as she calls it, to write an article to inflame racial tensions?

We are all racist

In reply to ponderiver

Because of this Royalty in Countries like Britain class is foremost in many people's mind. Because of that there is an overwhelming sense of identity and acceptance based on the pecking order of families and individuals.

This exist in every Culture. Here in the US it is based on education and Money and Talent! Every parent is either elated or worried based on which of those zip codes their prospective in law occupies!

Remember 90210? The cache that came with that zip code?

People have preconceived ideas particularly when Class plays a huge part of how civil worth is perceived!

Am not sure how that makes someone Racist. It's part of life!

Even t the accuser uses Education as a division in ranking people of import!

In reply to birdseye

I do public speaking from time to time and I often get people coming up to me and asking where are you from....... The minute i tell them Jamaica ....... the next comment that follows is" well you dont sound like a Jamaican "

my stock reply is I don't sound like a Jamaican that you know.....

I am blessed in the sense that I am a fluent patwah speaker and I am as fluent in the queen's English as a Cambridge don....... you cannot even begin to imagine the fun I have when i switch from one to the other....

In reply to ponderiver

You're so posh!

In reply to Larr Pullo

nah man yuh is di don when it comes to that

In reply to Larr Pullo

PondieScum is a pretentious git!

In reply to ponder over
Preach it bro. All those who seek acceptance should first accept themselves.

In reply to NineMiles

Yuh mean he family to powen whom Chrissy christened PEG?

In reply to Maispwi

My impression is that she was too stunned by the statement to come up with a good hard-hitting reply at the time.

In reply to runout

exactly !!!

In reply to ponderiver

Mnnnn --- you sounding like Donald (spanky) Trump ---- that you have qualities/skills that no one else possesses

so WTF is wrong with what the guy said? man if an indo guyanese tells me he from Carrington Village, i would respond in the same manner.

of course it doesnt mean that the guyanese isnt from Carrington Village

In reply to birdseye

LOL....yuh killing me here man!

Pondie-Spanky-Scum!

In reply to ponderiver

Cambridge? speaks Patwah? speaks the Queen's English? only one of them true. wuh loss muh belly...murder in de market murder

In reply to sudden

we black people always looking for validation from the others. get serious people. grow TF up

In reply to birdseye

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

In reply to sudden

says he wid di eastern European mail order bride and di prime supporter of sucking up to the foreign exchange

wuh loss muh belly...murder in de market murder

In reply to ponderiver

did you type that in Patwah or the Queen's english, Mr Cambridge don?

In reply to ponderiver

I can relate

In reply to Chrissy

He is nothing like his Dad for the most part, but his Dad was racist gaffe machine.....

In reply to Chrissy

You are trampling on the meaning of the word racism.

A blue person could look at another blue person and say "you don't look like you are from Mars".

You are assuming he made that distinction based on the colour of someone's skin.

Does that not make you racist?

In reply to sudden

I have a serious question for you.

Is Chrissy black?

In reply to nick2020

I dont know and dont care but she puts up a good fight for the cause and she is mostly correct

In reply to sudden

Oh.

You used "we". So this does not include Chrissy.

In reply to sudden

Except for the times she has said some horribly racist things.

In reply to nick2020

good question. i assume she is a we.

In reply to sudden

Well we is not me.

In reply to nick2020

i believe that Chrissy believes she is black. i am black. the "we" in this case refers to "we, black people." if you believe you are not black then of course it does not include you

In reply to Chrissy

Wow!! You surely know how to spot them. Is there some special skill or training required? Or you have to be born that way?

In America, it would have been worse because some would have marched all day, all night just to get him to say sorry although his intentions may not have been racist. Al Sharpton would have been front and center

People got to learn to let these things go, nobody gives ah fack anymore, look at what you saying to others and most likely you probably saying something others may take offensive although your intentions may have been harmless

Phillip was orders of magnitude worse from Charles..

In reply to sudden

The scientist in me cannot help but think that no intelligent person should view anyone as black/white/blue/green.

You would be hard pressed to find anyone who is purely/genetically "one race".

One does not exist.

In reply to nick2020

scientifically maybe but how about socially? you can think however you like but in reality humans believe there are different races- therefore there are

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

But,this is funny coming from Chrissy who would excoriate a black man for not supporting Obama..huepocricy!!

In reply to nick2020

Of course I'm black

Surya,
what has that got got to do with the price of rice in China?

In reply to Chrissy

I have seen your picture. Even socially you would not be considered black.

In reply to sudden

I look at the words people choose closely. Maybe to make up for my poor vocabulary so I can improve it.

I notice you were definitive in your assessment of your race yet you used perspective in your assessment of Chrissy's.

Is race variable based on self-identification? Is Rachel Dolezal black?

Obama is obviously not black by any measure (other than the racist one drop) but he appears to self-identify as black. Tiger Woods self-identifies as mixed.

It is all very stupid.

In reply to nick2020

race is a social construct as you attempted to allude to but did not quite conclude. i have been socialised as a black bajan despite living most of my life outside Bim, therefore i am black and a bajan. and if Chrissy, who has black or what we call black forebearers, believes she is black who am i to say otherwise.

In reply to ponderiver

Doh mention belly to sudden, u go chase the girthed one away.

In reply to ponderiver

Pondie

You are dealing with Caribbean intellectuals, they have little attention span, notice the gist of the topic has changed and you are the temporary focus of attention.
I called in to your radio show on the BBC and spoke to you on air, had no problem communicating with you.

You accentuated according to the callers
on the live air show.

In reply to sgtdjones

What show was that – the poppy?

In reply to sgtdjones

bruh yuh killing me

yes the focus has changed now it is about hueisim and defining who is black ....... the mental slaves are incapable of understanding that they are the ones who decide who they are and that it is the right of the next individual to do likewise.

they are fearful when it comes to addressing the shortcomings of the entitled ones but are quick to ridicule one of their own through hueism classism or any other construct that the entitled ones used as tools to exclude and define them

It looks like Birdie is still reeling from what he perceives to be a slight ............. I had no idea we were engaging so many important people on this forum

anyhow must dash mi have a poppyshow fi attend to .......

In reply to problemjay

Most sensible thing I read in a while on sissy!
Well, the no name writer of one poem milking it to death with Royal publicity
and the resident pseudo scholars and clerics yahso who comb thru everything written looking for racism or religious bias or suggestions of it. Actually, live their lives looking for it.
I was gonna say people of the Caribbean but I realize this cc publication, with the many disgruntled victims, some with the frustrations of Coughlan's syndrome, in no way represent the common WI man (or woman).
The woman (not Chrissy) took herself too seriously and maybe Charles is dumb and concrete. Well, the woman got popularity by screaming victim.
I make a joke of it when someone asks me in the work place where I come from. If it is a white, I would say Dundalk, known for poor, alcoholic red necks. Ninety nine percent would smile.
If it is a black person I would call a place name in PG Co equivalent to Tiger Bay in GT (hard core poor, black,criminal area) and they would laugh out loudly. (Colored people are more expressive)
They get it!
If they don't get it as humor, it at least stops them from prying further into my ancestry.
This girl (not Chrissy) was serious for recognition and attention, and the Prince could not get it or be diplomatic. If he was trying to be funny it did not come across so. He was just being dumb and insensitive........... due to his dumbness.

In reply to ponderiver

Wow! It took me over 15 mins to write my thing as your post was not there when I started.

In reply to ponderiver
I do that all the time,I speak like a born and bred English but I can speak totally Caribbean patois when I need to or if I feel to.I say Caribbean patois but really it's Jamaican.

In reply to birdseye

Poppy show ???

Naw pondie show was a sports call in live program
on the BBC. He just playing polytricks here man.

Pondie bad like yaz in pommie land.Him, he bashy on the BBC.Everything cook and curry.

In reply to sgtdjones

Glad you made this post since I had started to wonder if Pondie had crossed so many here when I wasn't looking. Ninesy coming out as he did, I understand since they've had a long history (emanating from of football, I think). But Birdie surprised me; he is normally so... well... normal. LOL.
Didn't know he had a radio show; will have to find out more.

In reply to ponderiver
For the record, I don't have an advanced degree, but I know grammar and do speak English fairly well; been the case from before emigrating from Ja and I am proud of that. Hailing from a 'remote' mountaintop area, I cut my teeth on western Ja Patois, so it's practically innate. And many are the times that I have had to code-switch, sometimes to the surprise of an interlocutor or an audience. So, like Runs said, I can relate and totally get what you said on that count.

--Æ.

In reply to goofballs

The woman wanted more conversation

Charles actually gave her a compliment...not looking like a Manchester person

In reply to nick2020

Are you implying that Chrissy used the whitening cream khaga gave her from India?

In reply to Narper
Sorry, I didn't see this.

The man laughed!
Anybody ever seen this gurmusaha smile much less laugh?
He was trying to break the ice, make a benign statement.

Now, if she had said Southall, Brixton or East Bengali area he (and I) wouldn't have batted an eyelid.

Think of the publicity she is generating, and a la the cleric here, is claiming victim role to further fuel an innate flame present in most of mankind.

Yeah, PondieScum worked with and was mentored by that well known Paedophile monster Jimmy Savile at the BBC!

In reply to NineMiles

Or one of Jimmy's many victims. poor lad

In reply to sudden

Good point that...he was likely buggered by Savile at the Beeb!

In reply to JayMor

I taught remedial English for 17 years. It started out for the children of our office attendants and groundsmen. I taught it as a foreign language because I had to learn Jamaican when I moved here.

Eventually I didn't have space as lots of co-workers and their friends wanted their children in the programme. The first thing I told them was that when they wanted to have a private conversation in the presence of foreigners they can use their own language, but they needed as many other languages as possible to survive on this planet.

It remains one of the best chapters in my life. In 17 tears one student received a CXC2 - everyone else received a CXC1.
They learned to translate from one to the other and understand the grammatical differences - it was so much fun. We used Jamaican music, poetry, proverbs, etc.