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When I was a boy, there was nothing to me like West Indies cricket. The names of players like Worrell, Weekes, and Walcott, Ramadhin, and Valentine were like music to my ears.

When I became a young man, West Indies cricket was still dear to me, so much so that even when Maurice Foster, my schoolmate, was not selected to the team, even at Sabina Park, and when Jamaicans called for us to go it alone, I still remained committed to West Indies cricket.

Names like Sobers and Kanhai, Hall, Griffith, and Gibbs were like distant drums calling me to the game.

In the days of Rowe and Richards, Lloyd, Richardson, Lara, Roberts, Holding, and Dujon, etcetera, I was still a West Indian man, win, lose, or draw.

I never imagined, or rather, I could never have imagined, cricket, or Test cricket, without my beloved West Indies, a West Indies, which was, a time or two, the champions of the world, and at one time, the team rated as the greatest of all time.

Today, as all those famous names recede further and further into the past, and the glorious deeds of the team disappear into history, I wonder if I am dreaming, or if I was dreaming.

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I am getting tired of these older folks reminiscing and all their back in the days bullshit!!!

Enough is Enough!!

You ought not to get tired of older folks reminiscing, we have great memories to hold on to. We were proud of our players who performed consistently well.
You will go to your grave with little positive memories.
That is the problem of many young people today, mediocrity in every form is acceptable, pride in the legacy that is WEST INDIES cricket not some Windies, is non existent.
Leave us alone we have great memories of WEST INDIES cricket that you will never enjoy.
Blessings.

In reply to Kay

You live in Canada right?

You do see how they honour and cherish their great sportsmen right?

Other cricketing countries do the same...from England, OZ to India and Pakistan

WI cricket has great legacy and glory.

We older folks have the right to reminisce..that is all we have in cricket today

Don't get angry with us for the state of WI cricket today

Where was Becca two decades ago when the decline started,

he was still singing fer supper with the WICB.

We will have memories of some amazing athletes that changed the game of cricket.
Calypso Cricket will be remembered forever.

We shall never see the same again.

In reply to sgtdjones

Your assessment is Very Brilliant assessment . Becca is one of the WICBC/CWI HIGH PRIEST . Now he is
pretending that HE was asleep for
Decades like the Fictional Rip Van
Winkle .

I seriously doubt that any Sane Person
would excuse Becca , when he and the
Other Sycophants of the WICBC/CWI in
the Media have ALWAYS defended the
Worst International Cricket Board in
the Commonwealth for Decades .

I find it very Interesting that Becca
never ever stated that ALL This is as
a result of his and many others in the Media acquiescence to the Worst
International Cricket Board in the
Commonwealth .

My take is that Becca & the other
Charlatans in the Region who call themselves Sports Journalists need to

TANGIBLY DEMONSTRATE THAT :

THEY HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT AND IT AINT

THOSE IN THE WICBC/CWI OR THE

REGIONAL CRICKET BOARDS .

In reply to Brumar74

Sure ... if WI cricket is all i have to live for

In reply to Narper

Bro no one is denying the legacy and glory days and also the right to reminisce but when it becomes repetitive instead of informative it gets kind of boring. No one is saying anything new and i have an archive full of posts and video links from this same message board on WI glory days which i cherish and share with pride

In reply to sgtdjones
Jackass, Becca and other cricket Journalists, has been writing about West Indies cricket, management and players for decades.
The problem with you and Point, is being singleminded thinkers.
One can criticize CWI at times, and Praise them at other times, the same goes for players.
I must thank people like Becca and Tony Cozier for keeping me update with Regional and International cricket in the 70's and 80's.


BTW, this is a way to get the public involve in cricket.
Sagicor General T20 - Phase 2 - Zone ‘A’ - Empire vs YMPC

In reply to POINT
Do you have a copy of anything written by Becca or Tony Cozier, between 1975 and 2000?

In reply to POINT

Spot on.

In reply to openning

How dare you refer to Becca as a journalist.

I know many journalists over many many years, and Becca is no journalist.

In reply to Narper

Ah hear wat you saying loud and clear. But this is no about us old people holding on to our cherished and GLOROIUS PAST, but it is about Becca and how he was and remains part of the problem as he never offered himself or any ideas that can lead to a solution.

He and the garbage called the Gleaner is a shameless pierce of old school colonial mentality and a proponent of "Afro Saxonism."

Long long ago I said "enough is enough" regarding Becca as he is irrelevant to our cricket.

In reply to Emir

The journalist in the Windwards, T&T, Guyana and Leewards, must have done a super job, bringing the CWI problems into the eyes of everyone around the globe.
Becca and Tony must be the only two journalist, that carry the venom of a few.
Thanks to them, I got to read about cricket, 4000 miles in Western Canada.
TTCB cannot get their act together, and you Privatejones has the gull to talk about others.
Point is just clueless, he should help to fix cricket in SVG, then step up to the plate.

In reply to openning

Former limestone now living in the floodplains of Calgary
openning

Lets see where Becca and Cozier were not singing for them supper during the years you mentioned above?

Can you post some comments.

All of the journalists in the Caribbean were singing for them supper, WICB scared the heck out of them.If they didn't write positive columns , they would be on the outside looking in.
Mason was looking in from the outside for a year plus
ask powen.

In reply to sgtdjones

Dude, I have on my bookshelves, almost every copy of West Indies cricket Annual/ Benson & Hedges West Indies Cricket Annual, and Red Stripe Caribbean Cricket Quarterly.
Spend sometime in the library when you are in T&T, and read some of these magazines.
A number of us, subscribed to both magazines , and got them delivered to our homes, so I am aware of Becca, Tony, and Red Perreira

Money is sole motivator for Windies players after Windies team propelled them into the limelight!

In reply to Emir

Very Well Stated , I could not have said it better myself .

Hola...Becca and the whole West Indian supporters..past ,present,old and young...listen up.
Whats the population of the West indies including Guyana? Maybe 4 million..????
And yet we cant find 20 persons who can play cricket and compete at its highest level...what does that tell you???We are not producing cricketers period""""
When you guys can turn brass into gold sign me up...until ..just keep braying and praying for divine intervention.
ADios
CB

In reply to XDFIX

After seeing how players of the bygone era were treated by
the WICB, what would you do if foreign entities are offering lucrative contracts ?.
One can play for a few weeks that it would take years to earn the equivalent amount playing for CWI.

eg Sunil Narine IPL contract 1.9 million US
Pollard approx 1 million US
Bravo approx 1 million US

That excludes sponsorship in India.

Ok you will play for CWI.

In reply to openning

I wouldn't be in T&T for the time to take to do such
in the next 3 years .Short stays .

I still say they were all singing for supper and free tickets at the WICB table.

West Indians in the IPL
Russell
Gayle
Bravo
Narine
Lewis
Pollard
Brathwaite

English West Indians
Archer
Jordan

Allyuh better wake up and see, clubs are moving away from regional cricketers.

In reply to sgtdjones

It does seem that you know nothing of Cozier and to a lesser extent Becca. Those guys were stalwart commentators that brought the game to us listeners before TV became popular.
They are cricket commentators first and foremost. not present day journalists. For god's sake man, look at their age before you say they are singing for their suppers.

No criticisms for mediocre commentators, but you guys decide to attack these 2 older contributors of WI cricket. Point is a sour person, but never did anything for WI cricket and it is sad that you would follow his lead here. I know mud slinging is a WI thing, but you guys must show some respect for the stalwarts or at least do not attack them. They gave yeoman service when, we could not watch a cricket game being play outside of where we live.

In reply to anandgb

Point saw one game, that is his contribution to West Indies cricket.

In reply to openning

In reply to anandgb

I am not talking about them commentating on games.
We had Raffie Knowles.

I am speaking of them holding WICB responsible as they saw
regression in Cricket .
Cozier only did it when the Big Ediot demoted his rass.
Becca just started asking pointed questions.

They knew, should the apple cat be upset they would be on the outside looking in.

I am holding all journalist culpable, they ignored due diligence and supported WICB, by doing such kept the public in the dark.

In reply to sgtdjones

This is for you and Point
WICB should revisit the Patterson Report

In reply to sgtdjones

Like I said, these guys were commentators and they did a damn good job. stop attacking them.

In reply to openning

The Answer to Your Query is NO . The
essential undeniable point however is
this Freaking Fact .

SINCE ITS INCEPTION IN 1928 THE

WICBC/CWI HAS BLUNTLY REFUSED TO

CHANGE ITS ARCHAIC STRUCTURE .

Do you care to dispute this ?????

THE WICBC/CWI COMMISSIONED SEVERAL

REPORTS , AND HAS NOT IMPLEMENTED

THE SALIENT FEATURES OF THOSE

REPORTS.

Do You care to dispute this ?????

To make Serious Changes in Any Entity

CHANGE MUST START AT THE TOP NOT

AT THE BOTTOM . THIS IS A FREAKING

FACT , THAT ALL INTELLIGENT PEOPLE

UNDERSTAND .

Unfortunately , many in the Region
have been brainwashed into believing
that change must start at the Bottom
and filter up to the Top .

I have yet to see a Waterfall where
the water flows up the Waterfall . If
anyone has seen that , let me know
where that exists .

Our Problem is that in the West Indies , People are not trained to
question Authority . This Brainwashing starts in Schools ,where
the Teacher is always Right , and WE
are Taught never to question those in
Authority . Even when they are Wrong .
People who migrate to most Developed Countries get to realize that it aint
a Crime to not only ask Questions ,
but also challenge Others regarding
their assertions .

In reply to POINT

Repeating the same thing 1000 times, after 99.9% of us are aware of the CWI/WICB structure and policy, seem you want recognition, every time you write it.
Find something else to debate about.
I wrote about Conde Riley, after more than a decade on the BCA board and a director of the WICB, being president of the BCA.
Now why would I want to dispute the formation and history of the WICB?CWI.
You should be looking and focusing on SVG,development of players, especially since teams are drafting players from other Islands.

On several occasions in this Forum I
have cited the fact that at one point
the 3 versions of the game had Financial Sponsors .

The Shortest version was farmed out
to Stanford & the other two Formats
had Sponsors . These Sponsors decided
to stop being Sponsors .

Perhaps they enquired , but I never
read that those in the Region who are
Sports Journalists went to those who stopped being Sponsors , and asked
the Sponsors why they decided to leave .

I am of the opinion that is what Good
Sports Journalists would do . If
Anyone in this Forum read or heard
that any of the Doyens in Sports
Journalism did that .

In the Region , there exists a very
pervasive attitude which accounts for
spreading a false Propaganda stating

THAT THE CRICKET BOARDS IN THE REGION

ARE ALWAYS RIGHT ; AND THE PLAYERS

ARE ALWAYS WRONG .

The above is precisely why :

WE ARE RUNNING VERY FAST ,BUT WE ARE

STILL IN THE SAME FREAKING PLACE .

In reply to openning

It seems that you are not only brainwashed but hardwired to only focus on the Players .

It is the People at the Top who have
the Power & Authority to make Changes
not the Players . This fact seems to have escaped your Comprehension .

CHANGE CAN ONLY START AT THE TOP

IT SEEMS UNLESS THERE ARE EXTERNAL

INTERVENTIONS .

Because those in the governance of
West Indies Cricket do not want or
have No desire to change . Most of The Sports Journalists in the Region
are the Sycophants of the MIMIC MEN
Who are in the governance of West Indies Cricket .

Evidently You and others Believe that
Change must start at the Bottom &
Trickle up to the Top . The Funny thing is that is what WE have now .

Unfortunately it aint working , this
fact is all around to see , but yet
the MIMIC MEN & their Sycophants
persist in their utter Stupidity .

In reply to openning

THEY & THEY ALONE HAVE ALL THE

FREAKING SOLUTIONS , NEVER MIND THE

STARK FACT THAT THE MIMIC MEN'S

MODUS OPERANDI AINT WORKING .

That fact is hiding in plain sight ,
yet they persist in their utter Stupidity . Buoyed by their Sycophants in the Media who believe
that Power & Authority is better than
Simple Commonsense .

So far it aint working out so well .
One thing I am very sure of is this :

UNLESS THERE IS A COMPLETE DISAVOWELL

OF THIS COCKEYED THINKING CRICKET IN

THE REGION AINT GOING ANYWHERE .

Insanity is generally described as
doing the same thing Over & Over again while expecting a Different Result .

In reply to anandgb

If they were so good ,why didn't they do diligence and say to WICB , you are not preparing us for the future .
they saw other teams trying to copy West Indies and improve and they did and passed us. We are now in Minnow status.

Show me a team that won for decades and now linger in minnow status.

These commentators/ Journalist all sang for supper and when WICB yelled jump they asked how high.

They hid the ills and problems at the WICB , for free tickets and invitation to functions.

Raffie Knowles noted such in comments.

In reply to POINT
Dude I was in management for over 30 years, started of with management theory X&Y in 1975 to Six sigma in the late 90's, so don't tell me about picking on players.
Way were you, when a number of us where speaking about the way Kirk Edwards was treated by the manager of the Barbados team, over a kit?
You seem to be player focus, but can you name one leader within the group?
Someone like a Frank Worrell or a Clive Llyod that can be respected by the players.

In reply to POINT

Take it easy on flood plains Openning.

He could be in a canoe in Alberta owing to floods.

In reply to sgtdjones

Name the Journalists,

In reply to sgtdjones
If you want a life, and be free thinking individual move west, meet people and start thinking out of the box.
Don't remain trap and worship anyone, especially since you don't have a daily , weekly or monthly interaction with them.
One flood in 48 years in bad.

In reply to openning

What was the problem between 75 and 2000?

The governance disaster started after Ken Gordon.

In reply to openning

Point will never get the point, and once you don't agree with his repetitive ramblings, you are labelled a lackey.

i have no idea why he keeps stating the obvious

In reply to anandgb

Welcome back to regular posting,Anand!

In reply to anandgb

Absolutely No One here on in the Media
to my knowledge has ever addressed what I have repeatedly stated in this
Forum .

For your benefit let me again repeat
what I stated :

THE 3 FORMATS OF THE GAME ONCE HAD

FINANCIAL SPONSORS . STANFORD HAD THE

SHORTEST VERSION OF THE GAME .


THE OTHER TWO FORMATS OF THE GAME HAD

FINANCIAL SPONSORS . THOSE SPONSORS

DECIDED TO LEAVE .


TO MY KNOWLEDGE , THOSE IN THE

REGION NEVER SOUGHT TO FIND OUT WHY

THOSE SPONSORS DECIDED TO LEAVE .

The point I am making is that in the
Interest of West Indies Cricket those
in the Region who purport to be Sports Journalists had an Obligation
to find out why those Sponsors left ,
and state to the Public , WHY the
Sponsors decided to Stop being Sponsors .

In reply to openning

... these two (Cozier and Becca) came late to the party.

I am not convinced that The WICB or CWI is responsible for the sorry sate of our cricket.
In fact, I wonder where cricket would have been if the old style elitist cricket boards of the 70s and 80s existed today.

The problem lies with society in general. Considerably less people are playing cricket. Its as simple as that. Generally speaking, children arent encouraged to play the game as was the situation in all the decades of the last century. Football, basket ball, tennis, golf offer far more immediate tangible long-term and guaranteed benefits such as university scholarships. So I believe that rather than the board, the problem with west indies cricket may lie with us - parents, teachers, society in general including many who post here. When last have we encouraged a youngster to take up the game or when last have we gone and watched a local school boy cricket match?

The WICB is not blameless but surely it ought not to be held responsible for the poor quality cricketers emerging from the towns and villages across the region.

btw - the cricket situation reminds me of the netball glory days in the 70s and 80s. There was a time when the standard across the region was very high. Trinidad was the undisputed second to Jamaica. St Vincent also produced world class netballers. At that time every girl in secondary school played the game. Now fast forward 40 years. With the exception of Jamaica, the game is not played as much across the region. The result is that the standard has dropped significantly.

In reply to sgtdjones

Bro I do not care how bad the administration is, the players DO HAVE responsibility also. our great teams of the 80s were under the same administration, but they had pride in themselves and performed. What excuse can you predictably profer to explain that. BTW: they were also poorly paid in those days. I do not believe that you can find an excuse for the T20 globe trotters to NOT play regional cricket or pick and choose what they want. Your excuses are really stupid.

It's called giving back and they rose to prominence through being selected by the CWI/ WICB. No other nations have their cricketers chosing T20 over domestic cricket

You do need a bush bath bro. your thinking is definitely one sided.
BTW: I am not a fan of how Cameron and Co. are running WI cricket. But your players do have some culpability in this shyte. They should play regionals to help develop the youngsters.

In reply to anandgb

Anandji, I agree with you. However, the ultimate blame lies on the shoulders of the board. They allowed the players to get away with their crap and in some cases encouraged it.

Look at the coaches who were fired in the 90s and why...the coaches reported lack of disciple by the certain players. Instead of the board taking action and back the coaches, they fired coach after coach.

So they are now reaping what they sow.

In reply to googley

In reply to openning

Now, what can the WICB do, to make these players play for the WI team in World T20 ?
What are all these greats doing to help revive the cricketing tradition in WI ?
Its like calling Barack Obama great - for the 8 years he did in office. But look at what he has done to the DNC or what he is NOT doing now to help them.
Greatness is called out when the greats step out to continue the legacy.
When there is no one in sight to be able to face you, you win continuously for 10 years - thats NO legacy, my friend.
Its the sustained ability to breed players of quality and keep the administration going on without greed which nurtures success - thats when greatness is called upon!

In reply to Lungidi2017

You need to expand on this. Tell us more.


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Administration has moved on from weakness to weakness to pure stinking crap. Putrefied! Gotto cover nose to avoid the stench but still some don't smell it.
One recent example.......we were demolishing England with good batting, Sarwan especially, and great bowling with Michael Holding skittling the great colonials for next to nothing in one super great spell.
What happened after?
Some jealous, incompetent, egoistical, did I say bloated with air but impotent, "administration" decided to disband a successful team.
Cold, deliberate, only thing they could plan out at all, systemic destruction of the top 5 or so backbone of the team.
Some "honorary" doctor and others decided it was time to change the culture by eliminating the strength of the team, just to make sure there was no competition for their homeboys.
So, here is the unqualified, non competitive culture at work.

When people can't see there is a problem, then there is no problem! Just keep on living with crap, per your choice.

In reply to sgtdjones

WI cricket was in Minnow status since 2003 - #8 in the ICC test standing. Go check it out.

The same stars you are trying to uplift today helped caused it. Go check that out also.

In reply to POINT
You are the ONE who needs to continue to confront this great DENIAL which is not just present among the soup drinkers and sycophants. It is getting widespread like a plague infecting everyone, and they accept it as the new standard.
Like hogs LOVE to wallow in poop.
They don't know any better, and don't want to know.
That's why they try to break your spirit.

Like the story of an alcoholic (not referring to anyone on CCC).
You drinking too much,
-No problem.
You late for work with poor performance
-No problem.
You got demoted.
-No problem.
You lost your job.
-No problem.
You can't pay your bills
-no problem.
You can't perform for your wife
-No problem, Mon!
Your wife left you, you lost your house.
-No problem.
You living in filth under the boardwalk at Atlantic city.
-No problem.
You and WI cricket dying.
Who cares?

Sometimes it is better to have a quick execution than see the gradual rotting of WI cricket.
OR make some drastic changes from top down.

Who will bell the cat? (North Americans don't know this saying).

In reply to goofballs

The PSEUDOJOURNALISTS propagated this crap all along.

In reply to goofballs

In reply to TheTrail

Remember the saying we are only as good as the top.

If you have morons at the top dont expect miracles on the bottom. You will end up with Che and sudden.

Now look at limestone Barbados condition on life support.

Windies Cricket is like the murder rate in the Caribbean - neither one establishment is capable of rectifying it.

In reply to Lungidi2017

With ALL due Respect , I get the
impression that Your Knowledge of
Politics in America is exceedingly Shallow .

Let me therefore inform you how the
American System Works :

THERE ARE 3 BRANCHES OF THE AMERICAN

GOVERNMENTS . THERE IS THE SUPREME

COURT WHICH HAS 9 JUDGES . IT DECIDES

ALL MATTERS DEALING WITH LAWS .


THEN THERE IS CONGRESS WHICH PASSES

LAWS , THAT THE SUPREME COURT MAY OR

MAY NOT FIND ACCEPTABLE .


THEN THERE IS THE PRESIDENT WHO

PROPOSES NEW LAWS & BUDGETS , WHICH

MUST BE PASSED BY CONGRESS .

Now in Congress the Two main Parties
are the Republican Party and the
Democratic Party . There is also a
smattering of Independents also in Congress .

Now Senators are up for Reelection
every 6 years . Persons in the House
of Representatives are Reelected or
Elected every two years .

THE GENERAL ELECTIONS IS HELD VERY

4 YEARS ; THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS IS

HELD EVERY TWO YEARS . THAT MEANS

THIS YEAR ON THE FIRST TUESDAY IN

NOVEMBER THERE IS GOING TO BE THE

MIDTERM ELECTIONS .

The salient point however is that
When the President of the USA , is
a Republican ; and Congress , meaning
the Senate & the House of Representatives are controlled by the
Republican Party , the President can
get most if not all of his Legislation passed .

Currently the President ; the
Senate & the House of Representatives are All Members of
the REPUBLICAN PARTY . So that Trump
has no problem getting his Legislation passed .

Part 1.

In reply to Lungidi2017

WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS ELECTED

PRESIDENT OF THE USA ; THE DEMOCRATIC

PARTY OF WHICH HE IS A MEMBER WAS IN

CONTROL OF BOTH THE SENATE ; AND THE

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES .

This is why the got the Affordable
Care Act Passed .

HOWEVER 2 YEARS AFTER THE ELECTION OF

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA THERE WAS THE

MIDTERM ELECTIONS , AND IN THE MID

TERM ELECTIONS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

GOT CONTROL OF BOTH THE SENATE & THE

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES .


THEY DECIDED TO SAY NO TO EVERYTHING

PRESIDENT OBAMA PROPOSED , IN ESSENCE

THEY DECIDED TO STYMIE ALL OF

PRESIDENT OBAMA'S LEGISLATION , FOR

TWO REASONS .


THE FIRST IS PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS THE

FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN TO BECOME THE

PRESIDENT OF THE USA .


SECONDLY THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED IN

MAKING PRESIDENT OBAMA SUCCESSFUL ;

OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE HE WAS NOT A MEMBER

OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY .

The gist of what I am stating is that
in his 8 years as the President of the USA , he was only able to get his
Legislation passed in his first two years because his Party was in control of Congress .

The Republican Party was in control
of Congress for the last 6 years of his 8 year Term of Office , and they
decided to veto his Legislations .To Counteract them President Obama had to use his Executive Authority , to achieve his goals . They were rescinded , by Trump because they were not passed by Congress .

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
I was fortunate to see west indies teams play (in person annually and on TV) since 1963. The decline of our cricket has been drastic since the 1990's. It is easy to say that the past was the past but the players on those past teams were fully aware that they represented a nation albeit consisting of players from more than one country, competed on an equal footing or were acknowledged as better than all other countries when the game was played at home and abroad. there is no such pride shown by the results of recent times both by the current players and the Board. Defeats to Afganistan at the recent qualifying tournament seem to be okay as long as West Indies qualified for the Champions trophy in England next year. The Board has failed to move beyond the "status quo" for many years failing to take positive action on recommendations from report after report, moving from coach to coach, poor management, poor relations with the players and their association and so on. The question is "Have the fans had enough???"

In reply to POINT

POINT - you make excellent points. But there is an undercurrent that you are missing. This is not about how US Govt works. BObama is out of office - since 2017 Jan. What exactly is he doing to further DNC's cause ? Is he helping DNC in any way, shape or fashion? What exactly has BO done to bring the under-represented and marginalized populace into DNC ?
Can you name ONE, exactly ONE leader in US that can take on Don T? I am not saying he should bring up someone - but a person of the stature of BO, getting involved in the grass-roots level work and helping identify potential leaders while working with the politburo, helps "establish" OR "strengthen" his legacy. All 300+ regulations that BO put in, all got washed away by Don T in under an year.
As I said, its not what you have done, but your ability to "maintain" that legacy is what determines your "legend" status.

Same applies to all the erst-while so-called "greats" of WI. It pains to see that all such achievements are being put to waste.

In reply to Lungidi2017

You perhaps are unaware of the fact that generally , the outgoing President is not critical of the current President until a Year has passed .

I expect that President Obama is going to be campaigning in this year , which is the MidTerm Elections for various Candidates .

Now if the Democratic Party wins both the Senate & the House of Representative , THEY can make life very difficult for Trump , impeaching him / and or Vetoing his Legislation .