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The following stars in a squad of 16:

Gayle
Bravo (captain)
Lil Bravo
Russell
Ramdin
Pollard
Narine
Simmons


Our cricket success depends on it, the world want to see our best team and most of all, the fans desreve to have our stars play together.

In reply to Emir
When is the T20 WC?

In reply to openning

Not sure, but I was referring to the WC next year- ODI in D COLONIAL MUDDER LAND

In reply to Emir
Can you list these guys stats in ODI the last 2-3 years?
BTW, tell us how many championship we won in ODI, when that group was playing?

In reply to Emir

Lil Bravo in an ODI Team?

In reply to Emir

What's your definition of a star

In reply to Emir

Think I saw something from Big B saying he retired from International Cricket
Polly nah when last he played regionals
Narine doubt he gonna wanna try his hand at Int'l Cricket, yeah you know why
The rest yes cause they gonna be playing 50 over cricket next month
Ramdin for sure should be there
Russell he's really becoming one we better players
and Lil B will have summen to prove

In reply to Emir

Two odd men in the pack highlighted.
T$T got trade agreement with Jamaica>

Hola...dont worry Brian and Charlie Davis will get a recall to round off a full TT eleven...and even Ganga and Bishop
Adios
CB

In reply to positiveg

They are willing, able and ready to represent West Indies. Now, if the hijackers of West Indies Cricket- they called themselves CWI, keeps on throwing obstacles along the way, then what can these stars do?

In reply to Emir… you answer the man about their performance in ODI as against T20s?


And Gayle should be captain. The best on show, as you are using T20 cricket to pick an ODI squad.

In reply to positiveg… rational thoughts!

In reply to Emir

if they are willing to do so but don't make themselves available then it doesn't make sense
There's a new criteria play x (we dont' know the number of games, for them to be eleigible to be part of the squad) let's see who all makes themselves available then.
It's quite easy you know.
I'm not saying they shouldn't be selected but some these guys refused to be part of the qualifying squad that played. So now we qualify they should just walk in?
Entitlement is what hurting we cricket along with bs administration among others.

In reply to CITYBOY

You forgot Lincoln Roberts

In reply to positiveg

Okay, your comments are fair and I respect you for it, although I respectfully disagree with your opinion- I do not believe it is as simple as playing in the regional dung heap tournament- it is more complicated than dat.

For example, one gets the impression the TTCBC, I suspect but cannot prove, in concert with the WICBC, has been throwing loud obstacles in the way of the brothers Bravo, Polly and Narine- in fact, one has to ask, if he is now "Nah-rine."

Now, look at the other comments in here from some posters- very insular and others are racist- I will not reply to these posters.

In reply to positiveg

… cause and effect … BS Admin results in entitlement!

Selecting players for ODI based on T20 performances. And we cussing the WI selectors!! (smh)

In reply to Emir

Ok got you. I heard Bravo says they have been throwign up obstacles, some we have seen and some we have not.
But directly for both bravo bros, and Narine you hear them publicly state they won't be representing WI cricket for one point or another.
Forget about what happen 2 years ago let's go with late last year early this year when the guys had to play ICC qualifiers (going with most recent to my memory) they said they had other obligations and they plyed their trade elsewhere.
In fact, I think what shocked most folks here was Lil B, cause everyone thought ok, both men apologised, time to move forward. But no.
But during the all WI cricket got to play and move forward. I was one saying let Lil B go he way, but I've watched him bat in the CPL, de boy still got what it takes, I know ODI is a lil different cause more over he'll have to bat though but that's what playing in the regionals will tell all of us.
I don't see it as a big ask if you'll tell these guys play a few games in we dung heap and make yourself eligible. You can't have you cake and eat it to. Show you're willing to meet halfway.
Plus if things soo bad wid dem and they local board speak out, or sue like Colin K, restraint of trade and colusion.

In reply to openning
If their stats not up to scratch then nobody stats no good.

In reply to natty_forever

#truth

In reply to Emir

when will you accept the fact that those Players ( the TnT ones since Gayle and Russell plays ODI) are not interested in ODI cricket, they all said for the last few series they have personal commitments, why can't you just accept this

In reply to hawk

POST LINKS PLEASE

In reply to positiveg

Big bravo wants to play

In reply to hawk

See Narp's link one above. They all said they want to play for WEST INDIES.

If you have a link to show us why you claim they do not want to play for WI ODI again, where is it

HOla....et al..the first 3 names on any West Indies team should INCLUDE.
a) A pandit (b) An Imam known as a maygee (C)A priest

and then select the rest....oh sorry..
D)Waterboy....Bishoo
Adios
CB

In reply to CITYBOY

must be an Albion thing! First it was Deo, now Bishoo. Who next?

In reply to Emir
Both Gayle and Dre are part of CWI set up at the moment and barring injury which they are prone to, you would expect both to be in WC squad.
Of the other 5 players
DJ Bravo last ODI was oct 2014, DM Bravo Oct 2016, Simmons Mar 2015,Pollard Oct 2016, Ramdin Oct 2016 and Narine Oct 2016, so none of them have played ODI cricket for at least a couple of years. With the exception of Ramdin and Narine none of the other have played in the last 2 Super 50s, there also at least 15 ODIs to play before the next WC where players could make an impression, so to say at this moment they should be in the ODI squad for the WC is irresponsible and just plugging these players. These players are expected to play in this year Super 50, depending on performance they would be consider for election to WC squad that is CWI Stance, but it also really depends on how well the incumbents do in the upcoming ODIs.
Also,Simmons are way way off the WC squad and IMO it is going to be difficult for pollard to make the squad unless he has an outstanding Super 50. In a squad of 15 prob with 3 allrounders, Dre and Powell will almost certainly make the squad assuming that none of the other allrounders make it, if there is a toss up between Bravo and Pollard, Bravo is better suited.
Saying all the above I will make an exception for DM Bravo if he makes himself available.

In reply to Redstar… Emir is delusional, see with him.

When last did Russell play in the Regional 50 over tournament?

In reply to imusic
In the last couple of year Dre was injured if I can remember and then he was banned

In reply to Emir

at the world cup qualifiers and the last 2 ODI series, they all had personal commitments and the PSL, i think the whole Caribbean would want to have them available, if they truly want to play i sincerely hope they make themselves available for the red steel in the super50 and if selected, i hope we don't hear a different story, olive branches have been extended many times

In reply to Redstar

DJ Bravo can walk in into any ODI team in the world, including Champions Trophy holders Pakistan, powerhouse England and the Saffies.

Polly walks into any WI limited overs team. Lil Bravo walks into every WI team as the best batter in all format.

Simmons is an opener- I want 3 openers in the ODI squad- Lewis, Gayle, Simmons- these 3 will compete.

Pollard, Powell, Bravo, Russell plays as all rounders.

Ramdin as keeper.

Bravo and Hety play as specialist batter

Here's the 12:

Gayle
Lewis
Bravo Lil
Hety
Ramdin
Pollard
Powell
Bravo
Russell
Narine
Thomas
Gabriel


Gabriel, Thomas, Narine as specialist bowlers

In reply to imusic

Last Regional 50 over tourney, along with Narine, Gayle,Lewis and Ramdin

In reply to openning

That was not the regional tournament- are you deliberately lying to yourself or just playing d arse?

Ramo is making a statement to be back in WI for the world cup. That's good.

In reply to Emir
Mr Emir I like your loyalty to these T20 cricketers but I would like to humbly disagree with most of your comments
Firstly, can you finish your squad you have 12 plus Simmons you need 2 more.
Question are you picking a T20 team or an ODI team. Forget personnel for a moment you need to pick a balance team.
Are you aware that the 2019 WC is in England? What happens if the WI is 60 for 3 in the 12 over you are to ask DJ Bravo, Pollard Russel and Powell to bat 38 not going to happen.

Lets starts with his ODI stats bat 164 matches average 25 SR 82 bowling 199 wks average 30 econ 5.41
Those stats are averagein ODis to say the least, not setting the world on fire
IMO DJ Bravo cannot walk into any of major ODI teams in the world he hasn’t played ODI cricket since 2014, who knows what he can do? are we going to base this on T20 cricket where he only bowls 4 overs and then bats overs 15 to 20 swinging the bat. When last have you seen him bowled 10 overs in a match. Can he take wickets in the middle overs with his style of bowling? batsman will just milk him.

Here are Polly ODI Stats 101 matches averages 26 SR 92 Bowling 50 wks average 39 econ 5.74
The same apply to Polly as with Bravo
As I said before DM Bravo would be an asset to the WI side the other will have to fight with the other 100 players in the region for a place in WC squad.
BTW you should stop referring to these guys as stars in ODI cricket their stats does not justify the accolade.

In reply to Emir

Dude way were you last regional 50 over tournament?
RECORDS / SUPER50 CUP, 2017/18 / HIGHEST AVERAGES

Squads

In reply to Emir

the only team that Bravo , Pollard , Simmondsdcan walk in is your, and Queens park team.

As an allroundber in ODI Jason holder is a superior allrounder to Powell and Pullard. he is on par with Russell and Bravo in the ODI , he is a better test allrounder than Bravo.

In reply to Emir

wow...walk into any team ........ok whatever you say guy

In reply to Redstar
But you are only using old stats? You can never win using stats. If you want ot use stats, then you won't select anyone.

In reply to openning

If you are looking solely on stats on last 2-3 years then you will need a new X1 because no one was consistent.
Based on current form then you have a good nucleus.
The same players discarded has now come and surpassed the favorites of Browne
So if the team is picked on merit then the payers suggested by the poster warrants a good look.
Holder daily is showing he is a piss poor captain and unreliable lower bat and field marshal.
Braithwaite is even worse.
Players who want to play are just discarded or a situation is created by CWI to harass them enough so they responds and then they are left off the team.
We will never amount to a top 3 team again due to our messed up inner politics.

In reply to openning

Please, click on the link you posted before we tork again.

In reply to Emir

Link Text

In reply to Emir

The first link posted is from the CWI, you need t go to the domestic topic, then CWI-Super 50 - 2018.

In reply to rillo

Thank you, well said.

In reply to rillo
Some guys are only playing T20 cricket and has not played any other format in 2-3 years, T20 should the be only format these guys should be selected for at the International level.

In reply to positiveg

The criteria to play for the WI is all a ruse.
Pick the damn best 16 and send them off.
We are stuck at the bottom or near bottom of every format due to our BS criteria.
Yet all the other teams welcome their stars on their teams to play.
Is CWI being p*id to not show up at tournaments?
Very strange that before each tour or tournament a "crisis " develops ND OUR GUYS CANNOT TRAIN OR PRACTICE beforehand or tey pick the team so late that they do not have time to get together.
Ever notice that we never have practice games on tours but India has 3 months tours, Austrlia, England also but we have 2 and 3 tests and are used for fodder. Coming soon tour to India for 2 tests while they jet off after to Australia for full tour.
So CWI scrap your bs criteria and send our best team to mash up d place.

In reply to positiveg

The criteria to play for the WI is all a ruse.
Pick the damn best 16 and send them off.
We are stuck at the bottom or near bottom of every format due to our BS criteria.
Yet all the other teams welcome their stars on their teams to play.
Is CWI being p*id to not show up at tournaments?
Very strange that before each tour or tournament a "crisis " develops ND OUR GUYS CANNOT TRAIN OR PRACTICE beforehand or they pick the team so late that they do not have time to get together.
Ever notice that we never have practice games on tours but India has 3 months tours, Austrlia, England also but we have 2 and 3 tests and are used for fodder. Coming soon tour to India for 2 tests while they jet off after to Australia for full tour.
So CWI scrap your bs criteria and send our best team to mash up d place.

In reply to Emir

I am not sure what you mean by old the stats I posted are career stats there neither old or new there are what there are. So, when I post DJ Bravo averages 25 in 164 ODIs that’s the reality.
I suppose you are talking about their form in T20 leagues around the world while t20 skills are transferable to 50 over cricket there are two different formats and you cannot say someone must be in the ODI squad after only playing t20 cricket for the last couple of years.
Stats give a historical account of a player’s performance, whether good bad or average, people can use them and manipulate them for their own advantages but there are factual. Guys post on the board opinions about certain players but when present with stats (facts) they star to backtrack saying all sorts something like what you said You can never win using stats. . On the contrary Stats along with others perceive intangibles like talent, attitude form etc would be the criteria for selection of any team.

In reply to rillo

I do agree the best 15, 16 players should be pick for the WC squad however it doesn’t mean that the t20 players listed DJ Bravo Lil Bravo Ramdin Pollard Narine Simmons are automatic picks in the squad. Since most of them haven’t played ODI cricket for at least 2 years, they all need to play in the Super 50 show some form make runs, take wickets and if select for any ODIs before the squad is again need to perform if that happens well certainly they should be considered for selection. No automatic picks at this stage.

let leave the captaincy for the moment because that is opinionated and subjective. Holders ODIs stats are comparable to DJ Bravo, Pollard, Dre Russ and Sammy and he is the incumbent so he either has to start failing or the other has to be performing

CWi has extended an olive branch so let put all the talk behind us and move on, play in the Super 50 and let see what happens. What is amusing is that there are calls by you and others for the best 16 to be in the WC ODI squad but I didn’t hear similar calls for the best 16 to be in WCQ squad had it not for the same piss poor Holder and others there wouldn’t be any WC to go to.

In reply to Emir

Gayle no
Pollard no