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HEADLINE: Poor Players To Blame For Windies Coaching Crisis - Roberts

 
CaribbeanCricket.com Sep 27, 2018, 12:48:52 AM 

He was speaking on the heels of Monday's announcement by Cricket West Indies that men's head coach Stuart Law would quit the side at year end, following just under two years in charge.
The decision left CWI with the task of finding their fourth head coach in nine years after Barbadian Ottis Gibson was sacked in 2014 following four years in charge, and Phil Simmons got the axe two years ago.
"I am not surprised [by Law's decision] because I knew it was going to happen, and if they don't get fired, then they resign, they move on," Roberts said.
"It's a reflection because we don't have good cricketers, and that's the bottom line, and nobody wants to be hanging on for hanging on sake. [At this point] I would just hire somebody to go with the team, cut down on all of that backroom staff they have so we can focus on playing cricket."
Law, an Australian who played one Test, replaced Simmons, who was fired in September 2016, five months after leading West Indies to their capture of the Twenty20 World Cup in India.

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natty_forever Sep 27, 2018, 6:07:33 AM 

In my opinion this is an indictment on the system. Why are players not good enough being produced by the system. Time to revisit what's happening at the grass root level. Get our best coaches involved here, may make a difference. Academy any one?

Here the right attitudes and discipline can be inculcated.

 
jballer84 Sep 27, 2018, 12:12:43 PM 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

Andy is a fool. He's saying administration plays no part in developing good cricketers. He's a dumb ass who does not understand why countries with superior resources have invested in cricket at all levels and produced a better end product.

While we may have some lazy players, we simply don't have the luxury afforded to our counterparts to be on their level. I am sure some lazy players and in England and Australia as well.

Keep this guy away from cricket

 
Emir Sep 27, 2018, 1:57:18 PM 

In reply to jballer84

Andy is a fool.

Correct. He is a fool off the field as he was genius bowler on the field

Keep this guy away from cricket

Yes, him from all cricket administration. It is not the first time he has made absurd comments and he is consistent with his modus operandi of never criticizing the WICBC, the administrators and coaches.

In his world, 100% of the time, the fault is with the players.

 
mkcharles Sep 28, 2018, 1:54:58 PM 

These former players knew how to play cricket but it is clear that they don't know much of anything else. High Level Coaching is a profession which means that you have to produce results. No coach assigned to the top teams or touted for a high level pick is willing to take on a project that is long term if there is no end product.

It's all about immediately competing for trophies or winning and what that means on your CV. Stuart Law came, saw and conquered and his time was up IN HIS OWN MIND and before any possible fallout before or at World Cup 2019. Nothing to do with the players even if we can all agree that the class of 2018 is no where near Robert's class of the late 70's and early 80's.


The West Indies' issue re: coaching is that we are mislead that our once former glory makes us attractive to the top coaches...Negative

Somehow and somewhere we have to find a coach that truly has a vested interest in West Indies Cricket maybe because of that said legacy, who understands the project and is in it for the long term, who will be allowed to work in an environment that allows for incremental improvement and not unrealistic goal-setting and certainly not someone who only knows how to work with the so-called "super athlete". More Klopp and less Mourinho.

Of course they are such coaches available perhaps they do not fit the required profile of either Joe Public in the West Indies or the Officials at the Cricket Board.

 
POINT Sep 29, 2018, 8:45:57 AM 

In reply to mkcharles

So tell me oh wise man how it came to pass that the Former Players who were in charge of the shortest version of the Game had the ability ;harnessed & honed the Skills of their Players :

TO WIN 2 CONSECUTIVE WORLD

CHAMPIONSHIPS IN THE SHORTEST

VERSION OF THE GAME ???


IT SURE AS HELL WAS NOT A MIRAGE OR

AN OPTICAL ILLUSION . MY TAKE IS

THAT THIS FREAKING FACT NULLIFIES

WHAT YOU HAVE STATED .

Quite frankly the setup a Template
which the Worst International Cricket Board in the Commonwealth
refused to follow .

Perhaps because it would show them up as being on the wrong track for
Years .

 
openning Sep 29, 2018, 9:14:22 AM 

Our former players benefitted from the English county pro circuit, the T20 Stars are benefitting from being in demand in the T20 club leagues.

 
Baje Sep 29, 2018, 12:56:47 PM 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

"It's a reflection because we don't have good cricketers,

I guess no one bothered to point this out to Law and he had to find out after he got the job

 
POINT Sep 29, 2018, 3:41:37 PM 

In reply to openning

YOU are not being truthful . It was
our Former Players who were in charge of Cricket in the Region in the shortest version of the game .

THEY WERE IN THE GOVERNANCE OF THIS

FORMAT . THEY ORGANIZED THE

TOURNAMENT ; THEY HARNESSED & HONED

THE TALENTS OF OUR PLAYERS .


IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU & OTHERS DO

NOT WANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT

IS DUE .

My observation is that the Worst
International Cricket Board in the
Commonwealth aka the WICBC/CWI had
very little to do with Harnessing &
Honing the Skills & Talents of Our
Players regarding the Preparation
of Our Players in this format of the Game .

I HAVE NEVER HEARD OR READ ANY

ARTICLE STATING THAT THE WICBC/

CWI THANKING THOSE WHO ORGANIZED &

RAN THIS FORMAT OF THE GAME FOR

THEIR STEWARDSHIP .

This also applies to their Boot Lickers in the Media . It seems that
in the Region , few people relish
lauding the work of those Former
Players for their Stewardship of
this version of the game .

THE PEOPLE IN THE WICBC/CWI RELISH

BASKING IN THE GLOW OF THOSE 2

CONSECUTIVE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS

WHILE REFUSING TO SALUTE THOSE WHO

WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SUCCESS OF

OUR PLAYERS IN THIS VERSION OF THE

GAME .

 
POINT Sep 29, 2018, 3:48:46 PM 

In reply to openning

I simply would like to know what the
WICBC/CWI did to recognize those
Former Players who were responsible
or the Successes of Our Players in
this version of the Game ???

I would also like to know if anyone
in the Sports Media thanked these
Former Players for harnessing &
honing Our Players in this version of the Game ???

 
openning Sep 29, 2018, 4:13:13 PM 

You are the only one who credit these guys for the T20 success, I am let to hear Gayle, Bravo, Sammy or any of the players from the T20 WC, do the same.
Dude if you feel these guys were the reason for the success of the T20 teams, a number of them are doing the opposite, with the longer version.
Viv, Llyod, Garner and others, were at sometime involve in Regional boards and the WICB, yet we are still at the bottom.

 
POINT Sep 29, 2018, 6:05:24 PM 

In reply to openning

DARREN SAMMY when he was the Captain of the Team in the shortest format of the game did publicly acknowledge
the Service & Contribution that our
Former Players made to the Success
of Our Players in this version of the game .

As far as I am aware NO member of the WICBC/CWI , the absolute Worst
International Cricket Board in the
Commonwealth praised or thanked OUR
Former Players who were in charge of
this format of the Game .

There was & has been to my knowledge
nary a word from the WICBC/CWI STOOGES , who in the Region Masquerade as Sports Journalists .

How the Hell can Cricket in the Region improve , when it is run by
People who have utter Contempt for
Our Players , and believe that THEY
have never ever done anything wrong.

2018 will soon be gone , yet there
is no News regarding in infamous or
famous depending on One's perspective , The Wehby Report .

It is very likely that the Wehby Report is going to suffer the same
fate as the Other Reports .

Worse yet there is absolutely no
doubt in my mind the Sycophants of
the WICBC/CWI as Always will utter
nary a word about their Masters .

 
jelfew Sep 29, 2018, 6:05:29 PM 

In reply to openning
I am still to know who these former players that were in charge of the shorter format of the game. Maybe if we know who they are we could big them up. As far as I remember, the former stars had very little to do with the organisation and administration of the shorter format of the game.

 
mkcharles Oct 1, 2018, 8:44:18 AM 

In reply to POINT

We have had over the period of the last 8 years some of the best T20 players no doubt...two titles prove that and I dare say whether or not Sammy was captain.

Having the setup now to produce winning ODI and Test teams even with these same players, different story. Thankfully for most of them they have had the issues with the board and get a pass instead of having a track record in ODIs and Test for everyone to see.

While no one doubts whether or not these former players know about the bat and ball of the technical side of the cricket is that all that is required in these time to run a successful program?