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Team for the first test

 
brians_da_best 2018-10-01 11:14:29 

Brathwaite
Powell
Ambris
Hope
Hety
Chase
Dowrich
Holder
Paul
Bishoo
Gabriel

I doubt roach will be back in time to overcome jet lag etc and slot straight into the team. If he does make it, then paul sits, i guess

 
natty_forever 2018-10-01 11:18:08 

In reply to brians_da_best… weak selector.

Strong Selector:

Paint
Powell
Hety - Captain lol
Hope
Ambris/Chase
Dowrich
Holder
Paul
Sherman
Bishoo/Warrican
Gabriel

 
brians_da_best 2018-10-01 12:03:22 

In reply to natty_forever

4 fast bowlers in india seems like a bit of an overkill

 
natty_forever 2018-10-01 12:33:20 

In reply to brians_da_best… well, I say play 5 bowlers, will make allowance for the composition. However, play our best 5, regardless of the speed at which they bowl.

 
russean76 2018-10-01 12:44:53 

In reply to brians_da_best
Good side but i would put Warrican in for Bishoo. Bishoo has regressed over the years and probably should not be in the squad. He doesnt seem to be able to bowl on consistent length and line despite all the years of experience.His only saving grace is that they are playing in India.

 
mikesiva 2018-10-01 13:20:43 

In reply to russean76

The same Warrican who went wicketless in the warm up match? Bishoo at least took some wickets.

 
Redstar 2018-10-01 13:40:20 

In reply to mikesiva
We need to using a warm up game as a criteria for picking a test team.A warm up game these days is exactly what it says on the tin. warm up ie for batsmen to go and have a hit and bowlers to bring over their arms, stop reading so much in to it. One person posted he has concerns over hety because he made a low score, next thinks Ambris should play instead of hety because he made a hundred and you are now saying Bishoo should play before Warrican because he got 3 wickets in the warm up. i am not convince by either
Bowling record in test however Warricab had a good A team series earlier in the year

 
navindesigns 2018-10-01 13:43:24 

virat will become bishoo's bunny

 
natty_forever 2018-10-01 14:05:51 

In reply to navindesigns… a hope is not a horror movie, them bunnies can transform.

big grin

 
googley 2018-10-01 14:13:21 

In reply to mikesiva

The same Warrican who went wicketless in the warm up match? Bishoo at least took some wickets.


why are you confusing people with facts?

and don't forget Bishoo's secret weapon! No other WI player got that!!


yeah, thanks to Larr we know it.....LUCK!!!!!!!!!!! lol lol lol lol lol

 
russean76 2018-10-01 14:14:38 

The has carried Bishoo for long enough, Warrican has proven that he deserves a chance.If Bishoo goes in there a bowl those long-hops there will be some long days in the field and some very large scores to chase.

 
brians_da_best 2018-10-01 15:33:09 

In reply to russean76

You could argue for Warrican ahead of bishoo, but I doubt that’ll happen. Unless they play both and drop paul

 
anthonyp 2018-10-01 16:46:10 

Powell
Kraigg
Hety
Hope
Ambris
Chase
Dowrich
Hamilton
Holder
Bishoo
Gabriel

Play all the batsmen.. Could play 11 bowlers and India gonna still score 400+ with ease.. So is best we use all the batsmen available lol lol

 
granite 2018-10-01 17:06:15 

In reply to Redstar
Warrican is more than ordinary and shouldn't be playing for the Windies,Bishoo will be a better selection in India for the tests.If Bishoo went wicketless in the so called warm up,you would never say that doesn't count,or don't read too much into it.

 
Emir 2018-10-01 18:39:52 

In reply to granite

Bishoo will be a better selection in India for the tests.


Agreed.

Bishoo's biggest problem is Jason Holder inability to properly use spin bowlers and the cappo's poor captaincy skills.

 
russean76 2018-10-01 18:54:41 

In reply to granite

I agree that if Bishoo could keep a proper length and line he probably would be the better choice but over the last few years he has not proven that he can do that and if he cant do that it will be disaster.

 
Redstar 2018-10-01 19:48:47 

In reply to granite
It is not like the good old day when there were one or two four day matches before the test series so can have a good look at one or two players these days you have a two day match where the batsmen in the squad can bat and all the bowlers can have a bowled, batsmen bat for 15 overs and retire to let someone else have a go and you really think hat match is used to select the team for the test that follows.by the time the warm up game is played the coach and the management knows the team baring any injury. So Bishoo 3 for is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Bishoo is the incumbent and will play, Warrican only plays in a two-spinner setup or injury to Bishoo. I have no problem with that only to say Bishoo bowls at least one bad ball an over a long hop or a full toss and he doesn’t have a googly.
The first 6 batsmen in the warmup game will be the first in the test

 
Redstar 2018-10-01 19:55:16 

In reply to Emir
I dont know many captains in the world who can set fields for long hops and full tosses, or a spinner who is leaking runs when you only made 250-300.

 
Scar 2018-10-01 22:04:38 

Regardless of whom gets picked into the 11 they better bat first if they win the toss. Best time to bat on spinning pitches that keep crumbling and turning dusty. Best chance they have of lasting.

 
Seechy 2018-10-02 09:29:05 

In reply to mikesiva

The same Warrican who averages over 46 with the ball in Test cricket?

 
natty_forever 2018-10-02 12:12:17 

In reply to anthonyp

Could play 11 bowlers and India gonna still score 400+ with ease.. So is best we use all the batsmen available
… and still caan mek 250 consistently.

 
natty_forever 2018-10-02 12:14:49 

Team:
Opener
Opener
batsman
batsman
batsman
wkt-keeper
all-rounder
bowler
bowler
bowler
bowler

Time to grow some cojones CWI!

 
Atl_View 2018-10-02 12:35:28 

Play all the bowlers we took since the purpose of this tour is to prepare India for their trip to Australia. Use the money we get from the first match to buy a few Indian wickets in the next test. Save some of the money from the next test also to pay the CWI selectors for supporting the India in their prep for Australia. Perhaps free trip for the Boxing Day test?

We must reward CWI for their astute leadership in this area. No other team is close to us in that critical thinking space. big grin big grin big grin

 
natty_forever 2018-10-02 14:47:53 

In reply to Atl_View… we cannot, as Roach not back yet.

 
allan 2018-10-02 14:48:54 

In reply to brians_da_best
Good team, but Sunil cannot bat at #3, that either Hope or Hety..
Chase also must play to help with the bowling

 
brians_da_best 2018-10-02 15:49:33 

In reply to allan

Chase is in the team.

Ambris has previously opened at domestic level, so maybe 3 is a good spot for him.

That said, the batting order could be changed around

 
granite 2018-10-02 17:51:07 

In reply to brians_da_best
Ambris could be the surprise of this short tour.

 
brians_da_best 2018-10-03 00:44:17 

In reply to granite

I hope he gets runs. He had a wretched tour of New Zealand, hopefully this one will be a lot better

 
dayne 2018-10-03 05:58:17 

Now that Roach is unavailable the WI need to play five bowlers.

 
natty_forever 2018-10-03 08:46:04 

In reply to dayne… always should!

 
Fivestar 2018-10-03 09:59:11 

In reply to Emir

Bishoo's biggest problem is Jason Holder inability to properly use spin bowlers and the cappo's poor captaincy skills.


Just curious, what would you like to see Jason Holder do to improve Bishoo's game?