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Red Force stars and World Cup hopes

 
sgtdjones 2018-10-31 10:04:07 

Red Force stars and World Cup hopes

ONE of the major factors that has hurt domestic cricket throughout the West Indies compared to the Caribbean Premier League (CPL) is the lack of established players participating.

Therefore, when Cricket West Indies announced in July that it was moving the Super50 from January 2019 to this October and had come to an agreement with the Bravo brothers, Kieron Pollard and Sunil Narine to play in tournament and push for a World Cup place – strong anticipation grew that the competition could rival CPL for once, with all the best Windies players on show.

For the Red Force, objectively it seemed a forgone conclusion with World Cup incentive on the line that they would win the tournament, especially with the other teams depleted after CWI announced the ongoing India tour would happen alongside Super50 surprisingly.

That change, while it’s no excuse, certainly decreased the excitement for the tournament because the crowds in Trinidad and Barbados – except for Red Force’s defeat to Guyana at Brian Lara Academy, Tarouba – never came out. While for some reason television coverage was only in Barbados.


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sgtdjones 2018-10-31 10:05:41 

However, current chairman of selectors Courtney Browne has often shown that’s not the case.

Since he took over from Clive Lloyd in 2016, he has displayed that certain incumbents in the West Indies team (especially from his native Barbados), even if they are struggling, are likely to get an extended run, while the Bravos, Pollard, Narine and Ramdin are held to a different standard and seemingly have to do extraordinary things to get picked for the Windies again.


rolleyes

Based on the concluded Super 50

They don't deserve to be selected.

 
Hellraiser 2018-10-31 10:27:23 

In reply to sgtdjones

The Bravos, Ramdin and Pollard certainly failed to impress. None of them averaged more than 20 in the just concluded Super 50 tournament. Pooran definitely was consistent and showed some signs of maturity as a batsman.

 
sgtdjones 2018-10-31 10:39:25 

In reply to Hellraiser

I have reservations about Pooran, plus spinner Pierre.

Don't think they have what it takes to go to the next level.

Pooran is progressing but not as fast to face International
competitors.

 
natty_forever 2018-10-31 10:41:50 

In reply to sgtdjones… well if it was me … First a stint at the Academy, then a few A team tours. But we still trying to get different results, doing it the same way!

 
sgtdjones 2018-10-31 10:45:47 

In reply to natty_forever

Natty

We have talent at the U19 level

Then we show inconsistencies when playing FC.

We foolishly throw them to the wolves, without Academy
and a few tours.

Oh but we expect World type players, over two decades in
the wilderness and our head still to hard.

 
aliaskid13 2018-10-31 10:49:05 

In reply to natty_forever

natty I also been saying the same thing for years now

 
Hellraiser 2018-10-31 11:07:59 

In reply to sgtdjones

I have commented before about the idea that T20 performances translates to ODI performances. I have seen enough cricket to conclude that it definitely does not. Thus my reservation about Pierre.

However Pooran has been around a while now and he was definitely the best Red Force batsman in this edition of the Super 50. He scored 292 runs at an average of 48.66 and an outstanding strike rate of 120.66. Pooran’s strike rate 120.66 was the best by any West Indian batsman in this tournament.

 
natty_forever 2018-10-31 11:31:10 

In reply to aliaskid13… a know.

 
sgtdjones 2018-10-31 12:27:17 

In reply to Hellraiser

Pooran with the years he has been playing should be
beating up on CWI FC bowlers consistently.

I see no player doing such, just brief spurts on occasions.

Thus my summation.

 
Pacy 2018-10-31 13:05:32 

In reply to sgtdjones


Natty

We have talent at the U19 level


Alzhari Joseph is a prime example of talent blunted in our FC set up... He was super impressive in the U19 WC. I was expecting Alzhari to be a Rabada type talent but he has regressed from what I saw in his debut match... Forget about wickets, Now he cannot even control the run flow

There needs to be a serious look at what we are doing wrong at FC level. Devon was a former example. There is no way these 2 can be termed Hard head and Not committed which is the usual excuse given to brush aside the glaring gaps

 
granite 2018-10-31 14:45:06 

In reply to sgtdjones
I had quietly said that when we were not looking good in the 50 over matches just concluded.None should be picked for the West Indies team.

 
sgtdjones 2018-10-31 16:34:12 

In reply to Pacy

Spot on Pacy.

We take diamonds in the rough and turn them into charcoal.

sad sad

 
hawk 2018-10-31 17:39:43 

In reply to Pacy

Alzhari Joseph is a prime example of talent blunted in our FC set up.


this is not fair statement, AlJo was hit by a serious injury that has contributed to his lack of development, that being said for years our FC set up was not producing the kind of players we need for internationals, Sarge is correct we are very competitive at the U19 level however this will not last as India is putting distance between them and everyone else at this level

examine the India model, they put lots of emphasis on youth cricket and their U19 graduates are test ready, this is where we need to be

 
WICFan 2018-11-01 09:55:52 

In reply to Pacy

Alzarri Joseph needs to ease himself back into the game with Regional & 'A' Team matches.

Selectors need to learn that you can't rush guys back from stress fractures & throw them into international cricket.

 
Narper 2018-11-01 11:33:32 

In reply to sgtdjones

while the Bravos, Pollard, Narine and Ramdin are held to a different standard and seemingly have to do extraordinary things to get picked for the Windies again.

Do they read????And Brung seh he is not talking bout Twitterbig grin

Brung seh dem have to read to be selected

Dem boys seh Brung gats an MBA...he knows bout reading wink

 
sgtdjones 2018-11-01 11:38:41 

In reply to Narper

Pybus gats brung the job.

Pybus came back

Do not expect Trini's to be selected.

With the ODI in India series, everyone is being
blamed except Trini's that cool.

razz razz razz

Now we move on to the T20's....Trini's will be blamed now.

 
natty_forever 2018-11-01 12:57:13 

In reply to Pacy

He was super impressive in the U19 WC. I was expecting Alzhari to be a Rabada type talent but he has regressed from what I saw in his debut match.
… LAW!

 
natty_forever 2018-11-01 12:57:52 

In reply to sgtdjones… No they will not, as we will win.

big grin

 
sgtdjones 2018-11-01 13:40:02 

In reply to natty_forever

I see another cutarse in the making.

licks like peas coming.

At least India will have the practice to beat up
the Ozzies next.



lol lol