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Comparing Dwayne Bravo with another cricketer..Who would it be?
sgtdjones
2018-10-31 16:13:47
The kindred spirits
If you had to compare Dwayne Bravo with another cricketer, who would it be?
When I asked myself that question, I instantly thought of one man, the late Sir Learie Constantine. Constantine died in 1971, 12 years before Bravo was born. But for style and impact, they were brothers, closer than Dwayne and his literal cricketing sibling, Darren.
Dwayne’s announcement of his retirement from the international game last week set me thinking about what his legacy as a West Indies cricketer would be, and I just naturally thought about Constantine.
In both their cases, you have to forget the numbers.
Constantine, one of West Indies cricket’s pioneer figures, played just 18 Tests and made 635 runs (average 19.24). And in all he played 119 first-class games for 4,475 runs (24.05). As a bowler he took 58 Test wickets (30.10) and 439 overall (20.4
. In Tests, Bravo averaged 31.42 from 40 games as a batsman (2,200 runs) and took 86 wickets (39.83). His first-class figures overall show 5,302 runs (30.64) and 177 wickets (33.43).
Constantine never had the opportunity to play limited overs, far less Twenty20 cricket. But I feel it’s safe to say that had he lived in this era, he would have been a T20 drawing card as Bravo has become, for Constantine was renowned in his time as a dynamic batsman and bowler capable of genuine pace and a fielder of legendary status.
sgtdjones
2018-10-31 16:20:06
In reviewing the latest Constantine biography entitled Connie released last year, ESPN Cricinfo writer Alan Gardner noted that Sir Learie chose “to commit himself to club cricket, sometimes at the expense of representing his country.”
Gardner also opined that the cricket in those Leagues, “seems to have been a sort of proto-IPL, attracting the likes of SF Barnes, Hedley Verity, Ted McDonald, George Headley and Lala Amarnath for what could be highly lucrative stints well away from the world of Test cricket.”
In his pragmatism as a professional sportsman, therefore, Bravo has a kindred spirit in Constantine.
hmmmmm.....
doublecentury
2018-10-31 16:21:24
Why would anybody have to or want to do that...Dwayne Bravo is Dwayne Bravo....he ain’t Collis King and he ain’t Daren Sammy or anybody else.
How many people have seen both Learie and Dwayne play cricket....and are alive today and on this board?
I guess at zero.
natty_forever
2018-10-31 16:27:32
In reply to doublecentury…
Why would anybody have to or want to do that...Dwayne Bravo is Dwayne Bravo....he ain’t Collis King and he ain’t Daren Sammy or anybody else.
but he is like Constantine.
natty_forever
2018-10-31 16:28:03
In reply to doublecentury…
How many people have seen both Learie and Dwayne play cricket....and are alive today and on this board?
Larr and Dukes.
sgtdjones
2018-10-31 16:29:16
In reply to natty_forever
Sir Learie chose “to commit himself to club cricket, sometimes at the expense of representing his country.”
Gardner also opined that the cricket in those Leagues, “seems to have been a sort of proto-IPL, attracting the likes of SF Barnes, Hedley Verity, Ted McDonald, George Headley and Lala Amarnath for what could be highly lucrative stints well away from the world of Test cricket.”
Natty
Sounds familiar?
sgtdjones
2018-10-31 16:38:18
imusic
2018-10-31 18:31:22
In reply to natty_forever
Add POINT, openning, and tc1 to your list
Cortes
2018-10-31 18:48:20
[b]In reply to sgtdjones[/
Mr. Jones, why are you giving the majority of people on this board more opportunity to discredit DJ Bravo, his contribution to West Indies Cricket will be treated and viewed as any other player from T&T in the past 40 years; with little or no respect. Even Lara has little respect or admiration on this board, players from T&T are to perform The Larry Gomes roles when given the chance to play in the West Indies team. My suggestion to you when posting, stick to topics like supporting the inclusion of Rahkeem Cornwall into the West Indies team or name players who charge into the press box to confront commentators, players who fall on their stumps while running from fast bowlers. You know post well meaningful topics.
Dukes
2018-10-31 18:58:07
In reply to sgtdjones
Garth Wattley really does not know the history of WI cricket because if he did he would not compare DJ Bravo to one of the pioneers of WI cricket. I find it cringeworthy to even contemplate that a journalist with a premier Caribbean newspaper would indulge us with this nonsense.
Johnny Bravo was a reasonably good cricket who thought he was better than he actually was.
I happened to see another cricketer who possessed even more ability than Johnny B who also did not do justice to his talents. I speak of none other than Bernard Julien. Bernard Julien was a far more accomplished bowler who could not only bowl beautiful outswingers I but could also bowl the one that came back in to the right handed a la Sobie.He also could bowl SLA orthodox as well as chinamen and I believe googles,though I never saw him bowl these.I saw clips of his century at Lords with some exquisite cover driving and of course he had cat like reflexes close in as a fielder. No wonder Clive Lloyd was most disappointed in his output and described his career as an inexplicable waste of talent.
Cricket_101
2018-10-31 19:33:33
In reply to sgtdjones
Take T20 out of the equation, I think Barnard Julian is comparable to DB. They both are gifted allrounders. But as a cricketer, Barnard is better.
Cricket_101
2018-10-31 19:36:05
sgtdjones
2018-10-31 20:34:59
In reply to Dukes
Sir Learie chose “to commit himself to club cricket, sometimes at the expense of representing his country.”
Gardner also opined that the cricket in those Leagues, “seems to have been a sort of proto-IPL, attracting the likes of SF Barnes, Hedley Verity, Ted McDonald, George Headley and Lala Amarnath for what could be highly lucrative stints well away from the world of Test cricket.”
I wasn't aware of the above, Dukes care to explain why?
Did the various Boards payment was such, that the option was County cricket to earn a living?
Emir
2018-10-31 20:45:02
In reply to Dukes
Johnny Bravo was a reasonably good cricket who thought he was better than he actually was.
1. Did you hear Bravo say this and can you provide evidence.
2. How do you know what is or was in his mind, are you mind reader?
doosra
2018-10-31 20:48:41
some trinis used to say right here that he was better than Hooper
ducks
2018-11-01 00:01:33
In reply to sgtdjones
There were no county option! They were playing League cricket. Worrall once refused to tour because he was not paid as a professional.
granite
2018-11-01 08:01:31
In reply to doosra
He is not only better than Hooper,he is facking better than that skunt,I'll say no more.
sgtdjones
2018-11-01 11:19:20
sgtdjones
2018-11-01 11:20:47
In reply to ducks
Didn't the league Cricket evolve into County Cricket?
brians_da_best
2018-11-01 11:25:32
In reply to Emir
1. Did you hear Bravo say this and can you provide evidence.
2. How do you know what is or was in his mind, are you mind reader?
Emir, you're asking for evidence? What is the world coming to
