Former Guyana and West Indian captain Alvin Isaac Kallicharran has been awarded Honors by Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth 11 in the New Years Honors List.He got the MBE
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Kallicharran honored with MBE
2018-12-29 18:53:17
2018-12-29 18:59:42
In reply to Dukes
Kalli must be very proud.
He is largely ignored in Guyana and the West Indies.
2018-12-29 19:09:37
In reply to Dukes
who conferred this honor
2018-12-29 19:49:30
In reply to tc1
Your Majesty..
2018-12-29 20:02:01
Guyana and West Indies star batsman Alvin Kallicharran is to be recognized as a Medallist of the Order of the British Empire for services to cricket and charity.
He was named in Queen Elizabeth’s New Year’s Honours List yesterday. Kallicharran, a Berbician, has lived for many years in the UK.
He was named in Queen Elizabeth’s New Year’s Honours List yesterday. Kallicharran, a Berbician, has lived for many years in the UK.
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2018-12-29 20:14:53
Congrats!
N.B.
Kallicharran, a Berbician
2018-12-29 20:17:34
In reply to Narper
He is largely ignored in Guyana and the West Indies.
And for good reason. We like Kalli, but we cannot forget. If the British choose to forget, that's their business. Kalli has been a good sports ambassador for the UK in the past decade or so. So, one can see reasons for such a high honor from the UK.
Kalli made an effort to assist Guyana cricket a few years ago, but things did not work out.
2018-12-29 20:20:49
In reply to Khaga
Guyana is a co-operative republic
2018-12-29 20:21:13
In reply to Norm
I think he buss up some batting records for Warwickshire way after Lloyd dropped him from WI team.
2018-12-29 20:26:49
In reply to goofballs
I think he buss up some batting records for Warwickshire way after Lloyd dropped him from WI team.
He did, and he was very upset with Lloyd and the WICB when he was dropped from the WI Test team. What followed though, was something most of his fans have regretted. If I am not mistaken, he is yet to express regret over that.
2018-12-29 20:37:04
In reply to Norm
And for good reason. We like Kalli, but we cannot forget
Many others in the WI have been forgiven...and their transgression seemingly forgotten.
Does the transgression deserve a life sentence?
The late Nelson Mandela would not agree.
2018-12-29 20:38:06
In reply to tc1
In reply to Khaga
Guyana is a co-operative republic
Guyana is a co-operative republic
Kalli is a British citizen
2018-12-29 20:48:24
In reply to Narper
Many others in the WI have been forgiven
Which one has been forgiven?
Does the transgression deserve a life sentence?
It does, in the minds of the Caribbean people, and they were all warned that it would.
2018-12-29 20:48:51
The bottom line is that Rowe had nothing to apologise for, neither did Kallicharran or any of the others who embarked upon that tour.
In the case of Kallicharran, the West Indian Cricket Board (WICB) had asked him for an apology as early as 1983, saying that he could then be selected for the side and the life ban lifted. The fact was that Kallicharran was in sublime form for that three-year period, and consistently made his point to the West Indian cricketing fraternity, destroying the likes of Malcolm Marshall and Joel Garner in the domestic game, scoring more runs in that period even than the likes of Gordon Greenidge and Viv Richards. He refused then, and I would hope that he would refuse now.
I take great umbrage with the statement that these men simply ‘sold out to the rand’ and that they just ‘went for money’. Do not get me wrong, I am not naive, and for each and every one of these players, money was a key aspect. However, Kallicharran was not the only player to be mistreated by West Indian cricket, and nothing seems to have changed to this day if we look at the constant wrangling of players with the WICB. The simple fact is that they had to make a living, and the West Indies was not about to provide it.
Rohan Kallicharan 2014
2018-12-29 20:53:11
In reply to Narper
Notwithstanding the material you posted, Kalli and company have been "largely ignored in Guyana and the West Indies", as you put it. That is the region's way of saying, "We have not forgotten".
2018-12-29 20:58:10
In reply to Norm
Which one has been forgiven?
Ezra Moseley played tests for WI after the rebel tours.
Bernard Julien was given a gov't coaching job in T&T
Colin Croft is a regular cricket commentator
Franklyn Stevenson played for Bim in Red Stripe after rebel tours
2018-12-29 21:02:42
In reply to Narper
Yes, but they did not receive public honor from any Caribbean government.
There was a proposal to have a stand at Sabina(?) named after Lawrence Rowe, but I believe that fell through.
2018-12-29 21:03:34
In reply to Norm
Yes, but they did not receive public honor from any Caribbean government.
Come on Normy...doan change de goal posts
The average caribbean man was disappointed with the rebel tour...but continue to love the stars.
The intellectuals and pseudo intellectuals maintained their stance and an unwillingness to forgive.
Even Nelson Mandela forgave.
2018-12-29 21:03:36
In reply to Norm
9 out 10 current Wondies players wouldn’t even know who Kalli is, much less about some ‘rebel’ tour in ancient times.
2018-12-29 21:05:59
In reply to SnoopDog
9 out 10 current Wondies players wouldn’t even know who Kalli is
True, but the politicians do!
2018-12-29 21:06:35
Most players that went to South Africa during the Apartheid period was blacklisted.
The JCA only a few years ago, refused Rowe to be recognized.
Darren Sammy has a stadium name after him, yet Rowe cannot get his name on a Stand.
2018-12-29 21:07:10
In reply to Narper
doan change de goal posts
How so, man? The subject of the thread is "Kallicharran honored with MBE".
2018-12-29 21:08:34
In reply to Norm
Wave a $100 USD in the politicians’ faces and watch them drop to their knees to kiss Kalli’s feet. 
2018-12-29 21:13:03
In reply to Norm
How so, man?
Yes, but they did not receive public honor from any Caribbean government.
This part
2018-12-29 21:15:08
In reply to SnoopDog
Wave a $100 USD
Man, this particular matter runs deep in the Caribbean psyche, and rightly so. Those guys should not have ignored the people of the region.
It will obviously take more than money to get out of this one - if that is possible.
2018-12-29 21:18:41
In reply to Norm
I get your point.
But I think all of this is now water under the bridge for Kalli. He’s clearly moved on.
Not sure about guys like Yagga though.
2018-12-29 21:21:52
In reply to Narper
Not sure what you mean.
I am sure Kalli earned his honor from the UK, as he generally does. I would have liked to see him honored by Caribbean governments too, but I could understand why they haven't.
2018-12-29 21:26:56
In reply to Norm
I would have liked to see him honored by Caribbean governments too, but I could understand why they haven't.
2018-12-29 22:03:57
In reply to openning
Darren Sammy has a stadium name after him, yet Rowe cannot get his name on a Stand.
Apples and oranges ...
2018-12-30 00:48:19
In reply to Dukes
Well deserved, Alvin Kallicharan was arguably the best batsman Guyana ever produced; better than Kanhai, Chanderpaul, and Butcher (in respective order).
2018-12-30 02:04:49
In reply to Dukes
Former Guyana and West Indian captain Alvin Isaac Kallicharran has been awarded Honors by Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth 11 in the New Years Honors List.He got the MBE
He deserves it. He was the best player of spin and pace in his generation.
2018-12-30 02:06:20
Becoming a Member of the British Empire is the name of the kind of award you would expect someone who went on a rebel tour of apartheid south Africa to get.
Anyone who went on those tours should not and most likely would not expect to be honoured by Caribbean governments which were at the forefront of condemning apartheid and supporting Mandela.
On the other hand Thatcher openly supported apartheid south Africa and traded with them. Her Tory government condemned Mandela as a terrorist and many Tories including a young Theresa may wore "Hang Mandela " badges.
2018-12-30 03:20:12
In reply to mikesiva
You are claiming a moral high ground. Doesn't the possession of a British passport amount to the same thing?
I.e by possessing the Brtish passport or possessing the passport of a country that still recognizes the Queen as the Head of state ,are you not subscribing and endorsing the policies of the British government?
2018-12-30 05:52:25
In reply to Khaga
Since you're making this about me, this evil Tory government does not represent me, neither does Theresa May's evil support of Saudi Arabia's bombing of Yemen. I support a Labour Party, that wants to immediately terminate arms sales to the Saudis. If you were Guyanese, would you consider Forbes Burnham as representative of you? And how many Democrats consider Donald Trump to be representative of them?
I'm a supporter of the British Republic party, which wants to abolish the monarchy.
Republic
There are a lot of people, especially of colour, who do not approve of the British neo-colonial honours system.
Opinion: As a person of colour, this is why I want to put an end to the outdated and offensive British honours system
Like many people, I’m deeply confused by the British honours system. Every year when the list comes out I have the same questions: What’s the difference between a CBE and an OBE? Can a woman be knighted? What do you have to do to receive an honour? And, most crucially, why do the titles still refer to the British empire?
Several celebrities have refused their honours; in some cases, because they find the whole system as confusing as I do. When David Bowie spoke about turning down his OBE back in 2000, he explained: “I would never have any intention of accepting anything like that. I seriously don’t know what it’s for.”
Ken Loach, the filmmaker responsible for exploring social issues in seminal releases like 'I, Daniel Blake', had a more concrete reason for not wanting such recognition. He told the Radio Times in 2001: “I turned down the OBE because it’s not a club you want to join when you look at the villains who’ve got it.”
Loach makes a good point. After all, a system which once honoured the likes of Jimmy Savile and Philip Green is a system that should be treated with appropriate distrust. For some people, turning down an OBE is both personal and political. In 2003, Benjamin Zephaniah explained his reaction to being included in a new year honours list: “I get angry when I hear that word ‘empire’. It reminds me of slavery, it reminds of thousands of years of brutality, it reminds me of how my foremothers were raped and my forefathers brutalised.”
Howard Gayle, Liverpool FC’s first black footballer, voiced a similar concern when he declined an MBE in 2016. He said that his “ancestors would be turning in their graves after how empire and colonialism had enslaved them”.
2018-12-30 06:08:33
In reply to mikesiva
This is NOT about you. Let me be absolutely clear. It's about the Caribbean. Why are some countries choosing to be NOT Republics?
2018-12-30 07:49:25
In reply to Khaga
This is NOT about you.
You did an about face on the man. \
You asked him (vaguely).
I would ask about a certain ex WIndies Bajan all rounder who went to Rhodesia.
2018-12-30 08:49:54
In reply to Narper
Rohan Kallicharan 2014
I would have given 2 fingers and a big toe to see this guy
Rohan Kallicharan bat. Rowe and Kallicharan were special but can you imagine Rohan Kallicharan.
2018-12-30 09:22:08
Congrats & 3 cheers.
2018-12-30 09:23:26
In reply to Narper Yep...with our socialistic outlook, we dont lionize WI legends.
2018-12-30 10:57:34
I just find that this Norm bloke should be told the truth.All our players who went to SA were pardoned apart from A.Kallicharran,it wasn't in words but we all know how things go in the Caribbean.When Lloyd and the rest went to Packer and Kalli stayed to captain the team,Lloyd promptly came back and took over the job,were those players punished for forsaking our cricket.
I know and thousands in the Caribbean know that Kalli suffered because he is Indo,that's just how it is,lets tell it how it is.
STOP TRYING TO PROTECT THOSE PREJUDICE SKUNTS WHO HAVE RULED CRICKET OVER MANY YEARS,THEY LEARNT WELL FROM THEIR PAST COLONIAL MASTERS.
2018-12-30 12:43:45
In reply to Dukes
Ex-West Indies player honoured by the Queen
EX-West Indies batsman Alvin Isaac Kallicharran was among several sports personalities, who were awarded the British Empire Medal (BEM) in the Queen’s New Year Honours list for his contribution to the sport.
The Guyanese-born batsman would now be entitled to attach the letters “BEM” to his title, signifying that he has been honoured by the queen
The Guyanese-born batsman would now be entitled to attach the letters “BEM” to his title, signifying that he has been honoured by the queen
Ex-West Indies player honoured by the Queen
The British Empire Medal is granted in recognition of meritorious civil or military service. Recipients are entitled to use the post-nominal letters "BEM".
If you are awarded an MBE, OBE or CBE you may use these letters after your name.
Now I am confused what did he get?
2018-12-30 14:13:33
In reply to sgtdjones
Kallicharran and Clark awarded BEMs
In cricket, the British Empire Medal is awarded to ex-West Indies and Warwickshire batsman Alvin Kallicharran and Nottinghamshire club historian Peter Wynne-Thomas.
In cricket, the British Empire Medal is awarded to ex-West Indies and Warwickshire batsman Alvin Kallicharran and Nottinghamshire club historian Peter Wynne-Thomas.
BBC
2018-12-30 18:07:15
This is like the MS in Guyana... 
2018-12-30 19:51:46
Congrats to Kali. At 50 tests, his average was 50.
I know di Queen enjoy dat lashing he put on Lilly in 75.
2018-12-30 19:55:51
In reply to Narper
I tink we gatta leave govt outta dis. The Queen is not govment
2018-12-30 21:49:59
In reply to Emir
The capital B is back in Guyana and the spin is on, we expect this from bajans, not the emancipated
citizens of the republic of Guyana.
spin, spin as long as you are my hommie you ok.
2018-12-31 07:24:41
In reply to granite
Kalli suffered because he is Indo
So, that should justify:
(1) Kalli going the apartheid South Africa, in defiance of the WICB, regional governments and the majority of West Indians (because he "suffered"), and
(2) Kalli being forgiven (because he is "Indo").
Amazing logic!
STOP TRYING TO PROTECT THOSE PREJUDICE SKUNTS WHO HAVE RULED CRICKET OVER MANY YEARS
Oh skunt! Another debating strategy, when all else fails!
BTW, the Guyana Cricket Board has officially congratulated Kalli for receiving this award.
2019-01-01 21:25:45
Congrats to the little master! Smooth as silk!
2019-01-01 22:47:26
In reply to tc1
The capital B is back in Guyana and the spin is on, we expect this from bajans, not the emancipated
citizens of the republic of Guyana.
citizens of the republic of Guyana.
dude stop being an ASS, do the British need to get a NOC to make the award?
2019-01-02 05:48:38
In reply to mikesiva
Sick that he accepted this award. Ah we'll.
2019-01-02 06:04:00
In reply to outside_edge
Well deserved, Alvin Kallicharan was arguably the best batsman Guyana ever produced; better than Kanhai, Chanderpaul, and Butcher (in respective order).
All Guyanese cricket aficionados acknowledge that Rohan Kanhai is the best batsman Guyana has ever produced.
2019-01-02 18:33:49
In reply to outside_edge
Correct
2019-01-03 10:12:27
In reply to Runs
what is correct? That Kalli was better than Rohan?
You can't be serious!
2019-01-03 10:29:49
In reply to googley
The best batsman out of guyana was Kanhai....Shiv is the greatest because of his accomplishments...
For argument sake, neither Kanhai, Kalli or Lloyd could play some of those innings shiv played...Back to the wall and not getting out.
I think that Shiv has a better 4th avg than them too.
2019-01-03 10:47:35
In reply to Bigzinc
no argument here.
2019-01-03 10:56:18
In reply to googley
if Kalli had not gone to SA, he would surely have been selected back into the west indies team and upped that avg again..
Kalli averaged over 90 facing a team for the first time...
eng, oz, pak, india, nz...He was seriously good
2019-01-03 10:58:53
In reply to Bigzinc
if Kalli had not gone to SA, he would surely have been selected back into the west indies team and upped that avg again..
Based on what I have read and talking to Kalli, that was highly unlikely.
2019-01-03 11:05:40
In reply to googley
Not sure what you mean. Both Kallicharran and Rowe were rightfully dropped for the Oz tour..Kalli performed well below his standards in his last 2 or 3 series.
2019-01-03 11:28:19
Guyana's best by a mile got to be Shiv....
2019-01-03 11:34:16
In reply to Kay
You need to talk to peeps who saw Lloyd, RBK, Kalli, Butcher and Shiv bat and the consensus is the Kanhai was better than all. He underachieved as a batsman.. Kanhai was a special talent no doubt. Shiv was more disciplined.
2019-01-03 11:41:11
In reply to Bigzinc
You need to talk to peeps who saw Lloyd, RBK, Kalli, Butcher and Shiv bat and the consensus is the Kanhai was better than all.
I don't need to talk to people who are stuck in the 60's and 70's, the stats are readily available in so many different formats. This is the 21st century man ....
2019-01-03 11:56:31
In reply to Dukes
Dats all!
All Guyanese cricket aficionados acknowledge that Rohan Kanhai is the best batsman Guyana has ever produced.
A connoisseur would know a vintage one soothing to all the senses versus a plain,simple but staple cheap bottle of wine, or food just to have on the table and not be a let down re basic protocol.
People don't watch cricket anymore. They just collect figures for stats.
2019-01-03 12:08:12
In reply to Kay
Statistics:: Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics..
A hunter shoots a deer and misses one inch to the left, shoots the deer again and misses one inch to the right. Statistical average says the deer is dead, fact is the hunter goes hungry.
You know class when you see it. Statistically, Andy Ganteume is the best the WI ever produced averaging over 100.
A five dollar bottle of wine sells millions of bottles while a $5,000 bottle sells only 1,000; by your logic the $5 bottle is clearly superior...
Watching a Kanhai cover drive is infinitely more pleasurable to watching a shiv cover drive...
hope i am not making this too difficult.
2019-01-03 12:21:38
In reply to Bigzinc
Watching a Kanhai cover drive is infinitely more pleasurable to watching a shiv cover drive...
Of course you are entitled to your opinion but how long are you and your older friends going to live to tell these stories? This current and future generations will have to make their judgement based on something other than eye witness accounts ......
2019-01-03 12:28:41
In reply to Kay
so how come you didnt celebrate the young gun, Hetty's birthday? His stats not good enough?
2019-01-03 12:33:00
In reply to Kay
Cannot argue with that....But you know beauty when you see it. Kanhai was a maestro, an artist but a bean counter like would not understand..
2019-01-03 12:47:58
In reply to Bigzinc
The beholders are a dying breed .... walk good!
(you changed the post?)
2019-01-03 12:50:22
In reply to googley
USD $500,000+ is the stats that matter for Hetty right now... hug dat up!!
2019-01-03 12:56:37
In reply to Kay
sorry, i did not think that is was right...
If you think that beholders were a dying breed, then those wealthy men would be marrying ugly women. Hollywood and Bollywood would have actresses that looked like ugly hags...
Whether it is art, women, cars, architecture, animals or landscape beauty will always be appreciated. Now would you like to look at a garbage dump or a beautiful landscape.
Numbers and mathematics are beautiful in their own right but shiv is no match for RBK.
Would you prefer to look at TunTun instead of Priyank C??? be honest
2019-01-03 13:15:44
In reply to Chrissy
Sick that he accepted this award. Ah well.
He went to play in racist Apartheid South Africa, in defiance of international opinion and disdain, for which he has refused to apologise because, as his son contends, "he did nothing wrong"
Why would you be 'sick that he accepted this award [the MBE]" ?
2019-01-03 13:35:53
In reply to Narper
u posting something from the man son as an unbiased opinion hommie? I agree with the previous poster. True those guys were looking to earn a living, and no one has the right to deny you such, they also do not have the right to feel aggrieved when the choice of their employment causes an uproar. Hoss richards who is a man i dont particularly like, got a cheque without a limit, and he turned it down and kali and richards' income would have been coming from the same place.......well, kali wasn't playing for the WI anymore but he had a county contract which was and is more than enough to give a player a comfortable standard of living
2019-01-03 14:11:22
In reply to jacksprat
I can certainly see Chrissy's frame of reference regarding her disapproval. England and the Queen have benefited greatly from the misery and exploitation of others, to accept any from them is a betrayal....
Having said that, Sobers, the 3 Ws were all honoured by her majesty....
2019-01-03 14:28:45
In reply to Bigzinc
The Death of Expertise: The Campaign against Established Knowledge and Why it Matters by Thomas Nichols
is an extremely relevant book today. NUFF SAID
2019-01-03 14:46:13
In reply to Dukes
Well people dont like to challenge themselves or their beliefs.. Its human nature I guess.
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