No, the whole system is not failing, I am talking about healthcare and the food industry, specifically.
Healthcare is probably the only industry where people cannot afford its services, any other service would quickly go out of business. It is a clever scheme, where insurances, hospitals and drug companies make huge profits and the Government picks up the tab.
Can car companies survive if people cannot buy their cars?
Can the airline industry survive if people cannot afford tickets?
So why is the healthcare industry allowed to survive?
The other is the restaurant industry and a few others in the services sector.
How are these companies allowed the pay their employees, minimum wages, they cannot live on? Not a person in America can afford to live on $7.50 an hour, but yet they get away with it.
Should companies be forced to pay employees living wages? It is going the change the food industry, but so what? They will have to come up with ingenious ways to keep customers or go out of business.
It's costing you the tax payer, anyway, by having to subsidize low income earners.
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The failure of capitalism
That may come down to the greater discussion of whether healthcare (especially among seniors) should be considered a human right. If it's deemed so then the capitalist model of healthcare may not work - the poor simply can't afford it.
In reply to Tryangle
Could the Government be at fault here?
Are Medicare and Medicaid to be blamed?
These companies may be taking advantage of the fact that Government is involved in Healthcare. Afterall, the Government have been known to pay $50.00 for screwdrivers.
Maybe the Dems, are correct in wanting the Gov to takeover healthcare. A mixture of private/public care is unworkable.
In reply to black
6 reasons why Healthcare in the US is so expensive
Capitalism is a big part and not the only part.
In reply to black
Your post reminds me of a story about a student – teacher came in and said – well today we are going to start the study of geometry, and we will start with the study of the Right angle triangle ---- next day teacher came in and a student said – Teacher - yesterday you taught us about the right triangle – when are you going to teach us about the Left triangle?
So is you now - you tell about the failure of Democracy --- when you going to tout the form of government that’s successful
In reply to birdseye
In reply to black
Maybe the Dems, are correct in wanting the Gov to takeover healthcare.
Show me where the Dems want to Gov to take over Healthcare?
In reply to nick2020
Healthcare for all!!!
What do you call that?
In reply to birdseye
It is the best system in the world but that doesn't mean you cannot point out its failures.
In reply to black
In reply to black
Show me where the Dems want Government to take over Healthcare.
In reply to nick2020
Really dude?
What does "healthcare for all" mean?
It's not the position of ALL Democrats but the people in position to change the system are the ones advocating it.
The Presidential candidates.
In reply to black
It means healthcare for all. So again how does that mean they want Government to take over Healthcare? But this would all be settled if you can show me a link or video of a Dem saying Government should take over Healthcare.
In reply to nick2020
Ok, who is going to pay for it?
Come on nick!
In reply to black
Not to speak for nick but maybe he's suggesting that instead of govt taking over the whole process, or having quangos in place, healthcare costs are subsidized by the govt. So private healthcare providers may still compete for business but payment of such is handled by the state?
In reply to Tryangle
I just don't think black can find any place where anyone suggested that government take over healthcare. And you would have to be a simpleton to hear healthcare for all and your takeaway be government is taking it over.
Also Medicare and Medicaid exist already as a government subsidy but not everyone qualifies. Would government ever roll out subsidies to the entire population? Not even the ACA has that goal.
Healthcare for all could just easily mean making healthcare accessible for all. You don't have to take it over in order to achieve that.
In reply to nick2020
Here dude
In reply to black
Why did I figure it was crazy socialist Bernie
He is an independent but you win this one.
In reply to black
If a particular automaker makes lousy cars, would that mean that internal combustion technology is failing?
A capitalist economic system does not prevent a government from providing any free service to the general population, nor does it prevent competition between privately owned businesses and the government's free services. The US Postal Service and the public education system are good examples of this.
In reply to Norm
Not when there are good examples of the internal combustion engine from other auto makers.
The US Postal Service and the public education system are good examples of this
The post office is also a good example of a company going out of business for not providing the service people need
In reply to black
That is Norm's point. You are saying Capitalism is failing because it is failing in America. Is it failing elsewhere?
Edit:
In Bimshire you can go to the Polyclinics and spend all day or you can go to a private physician and wait an hour. There will always be a place for private.
In reply to nick2020
No, the whole system is not failing, I am talking about healthcare and the food industry, specifically
First paragraph.
Private healthcare is a choice.
In reply to black
black you either do not come up with coherent points or you do not fully explain yourself.
The failure of capitalism
No, the whole system is not failing, I am talking about healthcare and the food industry, specifically.
Can you possibly make sense of your topic and your lead sentence?
Capitalism is a failure.
The whole system is not failing
Specifically healthcare and food.
So how is healthcare and food failing and how is that because of capitalism?
I do not even understand how you came to the amazing conclusion food is failing.
The only ideology (Capitali$m) to bring million & millions of people out of poverty. Run guh assk the Dragon - China! Also, Japan, South Korea, Chile, Taiwan, Singapore & of course, my favorite - Rwanda! Dwl. Skites, nearly flip my cup of tea!
In reply to nick2020
Dude, it's just a freaking headline, of course you are going to get the wrong idea if you do not read the whole thing.
It is very much a part of capitalism. And, if you have a lick of sense, you would know that I am referring to America, specifically.
In reply to BeatDball
I am very much in favor of capitalism, I was just referring to a specific part or sector. America is the shining example of capitalism but yet it cannot get those two things right.
In reply to black
To sum it up then:
Capitalism in America is failing, not entirely, but in certain areas like Healthcare and Food.
Am I summarizing your position correctly?
In reply to black I used to ponder on that too...but, maybe Americans are saying, get off your posterior end, get a job, then you will be covered & story done, as the Guyneez would say!
In reply to nick2020
To sum it up then:
Capitalism in America is failing, not entirely, but in certain areas like Healthcare and Food.
Am I summarizing your position correctly?
No you are not, you are failing to distinguish between the headline and the content of what was written.
In reply to BeatDball
I used to ponder on that too...but, maybe Americans are saying, get off your posterior end, get a job, then you will be covered & story done, as the Guyneez would say!
But that is not reality, you're always going to have people that need help. That is true for every country.
In reply to black
So your headline AND opening sentence are faulty?
Healthcare for all is what you get in Scandinavia.
And it works.
I have an Australian friend who moved from the UK to live and work in Sweden, and he says he has a much better quality of life where he is now.
In reply to mikesiva
But politicians will not do it, they would rather have this farcical system we have now.
In reply to black
Isn't that the conundrum?
People say, look at Sweden or Denmark or Finland or Canada.
Then others say, yeah but look at how much they get taxed.
The discussion ends there instead of weighing the situations and seeing what arrangement (or compromise) is viable.
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