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As youngsters, Hope and Others must have a bit of respect for the mature players in West Indies Cricket.

Gayle has had numerous ailments that have caused him problems
over the years. I view Hope anger today as disrespectful
to a player who has given us and fans Worldwide enjoyment
in the gentleman's game of Cricket.

It saddens me to see a great player in the game, disesteemed by a youthful player.

In reply to sgtdjones

That he did it in front of his home fans the large contingent of boorish barmy army
Was unforgiveable.

I have lost all respect for him ah don't care who vex

And where is the Skunt back in the hutch like a dunce

STFU

Agree

In reply to sgtdjones

what did I miss?

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy


That Jonesy reminds me of Marcus Garvy Lives, loves breaking fake news.

In reply to Realsteel

which of the 3 statements above you agree with?

In reply to TheTrail

Did you not see when Hope called for a run and Gayle
turned him down

Hope threw a hissy fit.

It embarrassed Gayle he would have been run out.

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Come on Fuzzy, you better than that I think.

Your comment surprised me.

The youngster embarrassed the Senior Player

In reply to sgtdjones

At least he didn't do him like Samuels did Lara...

In reply to sgtdjones

bad form and all that. Morton showed similar displeasure to shiv

In reply to Larr Pullo

OK you

This is where it occurred Hope was angry in his gesture to
Gayle. Raising his hands and saying something.

In reply to sgtdjones

Thanks for noticing and drawing attention to the crude, uncouth, cocky attitude.

Some say I distort when I brought it up.

In reply to goofballs

I felt sorry for Gayle, that was a nasty diss in
front of the English.

Nope, you didn't distort anything, it happened.

Bravo didn't do such in the last game when he batted with Gayle. He knew Gayle's limitations.

In reply to sgtdjones

Sad thing to see in real life much less in the great game of cricket

In reply to sgtdjones

You aren’t watching the game, so go back to cricinfo and chill.

In reply to JOJO

I was watching the game that's why I saw it; Cricinfo didn't
talk about it.

Obviously, you didn't see it and you were watching the game?

In reply to ponderiver I agree.. Know your personnel. Some run long 2s and others turn 2s into 3..
I lost respect for the kid. But he was in front of his English folks so he may have felt empowered.

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

well said.

i am sure that STD and Sgt Jherri Khurle are not watching the match and only relying on triple hearsay

In reply to Chally1

Spot on with comments.

In reply to sgtdjones

Okay, Miss Cleo read your lips, you could tell a gesture as disrespectful to Gayle by Hope raising his hand.



What would you call the burning of an effigy of Garfield Sobers at Queen Park Oval just because he declared too soon and the WI lose the test match?

"Richard Cox, linguist."

In reply to sudden … what I am sure of is that you not watching it. It was disrespectful even for a Troll.

In reply to TheTrail

Even Bumble noted Hope's anger on the broadcast.

We made a mistake burning Sobers, we tort it was sudden.

In reply to sudden

Cheffette Girthed sudden

I saw it and was disgusted by the diss and I didn't go to

cow manure

did you see Samwells running out Lara and the look on Samwells' face?

In reply to sgtdjones

Just answer my question,please.

In reply to TheTrail two wrongs don't mek a right!

In reply to TheTrail

YOu googled to find that one huh,

about 50 years ago that occurred?.

Hope dissed Gayle today.

In reply to natty_forever

yuh wrong STD wrong Trail right

In reply to sudden

Cheffette sudden

What does the above have to do with what occurred today?
A comprehension problem I presume?

Hope knew Gayle limitations and threw a hissy fit.

I realized that you couldn't see it since your stomach was in the way.

In reply to sgtdjones

try answering a question instead of posting shoite rebuttals

In reply to sudden

Look at the thread Caption and you will see why I ignore
useless comments, that fail to correlate to the gist of the thread.

I see what you are up to, but ah gats a better than cowmanure education. Keep trolling.

In reply to sgtdjones

That's how dem Bambys (Bambies) stay. Dem feel entitled.

In reply to Drapsey

In reply to sgtdjones

I leave that Googling for you guys.

See the end of the statement.

I don't have to use Google to get any information. I have access to the history of WI cricket from the 50's onward,even though I wasn't around back in the day.

I didn’t see it but Bishop mentioned it on air. Said Hope needed to “watch it”

Sounds like a “heat of the moment” thing

Many teams across all sports have “generation gaps”. This team is one where the dominant culture is a relatively young one.

Young captain. Young players. Fairly well established team culture.

Gayle is outside of that culture but brings a wealth of experience

I would hope that Hope would apologize once getting back to the dressing room and it’s all put behind everyone

In reply to imusic

true

In reply to imusic

Yes , it was pathetic

In reply to ponderiver

how did this lad disrespect the Boss matey?

In reply to jcveletta

Called the boss for a sharp dingle the boss said no and he started to throw a sissy fit at the boss

DI boss never reacted but di yute was behaving like di boss wukking fuh him
Houta horder

In reply to imusic

Holder just gave Gayle one of the stumps, so that gesture, may put everything to rest.

In reply to openning

Someone would have spoken to Hope about his hissy fit.

It was not nice to diss the Universe Boss.

In reply to sgtdjones

Tamarind Jones, I must call you out now, have you ever batted with a partner who refused to run your singles and 2s ,and turn his back on you, but ran his.

even in gully cricket Gayle's behaviour was unacceptable.
run your partner single and 2s is the 1st rule in cricket.

In reply to tc1

Limestone tc1

Hope knew about Gayle and his history of Hamstrings.

Hope knew that we needed the Universe Boss to bat long.

He disrespected a senior player Limestone tc1,
that was not cool. Its a team game.

In reply to sgtdjones
Dude, it must be hard for these youngsters, batting with Chris and not able to run singles.
You think it is not frustrating to the youngsters, batting with Chris and not able to run squick singles

Snowflakes

Things happen in sport in the heat of the moment. Im sure you are all more offended than Gayle was. Get over it.

In reply to openning

openning, before Hope went out to the wicket he knew about Gayle and singles.

The last game lil bravo batted with Gayle, he wasn't frustrated.

The youngsters must show a bit of respect for the senior players, there is a reason for them on the team.

England celebrates more when the Universe Boss is out that any other player. Why is that ?

In reply to sgtdjones

Hetty did the same on Wednesday to Gayle.
As a senior player, you cannot simply refuse to run your partner singles , but want your partner to run yours.

In reply to ponderiver

needs schooling mate.

In reply to sgtdjones
Dude, when you leave the dressing room, everyone is equal

In reply to sgtdjones

Sobers got run out, but Charlie never refused to run Sobers singles, or Sobers never refused to run Charlie singles or 2S.
Gayle turned his back on Shai, but was calling for singles while he was batting.

Shai has to be pissoff and he is one of the most polite youngsters around.

In reply to openning

You said this , your best post.

In reply to tc1

limestone tc1

Bish doesn't do such stuff on the air.
I understand the young ones today, fast food syndrome and
being impatient, but there is a reason and Hope knew it.

Its uncalled for on the same team and I am sure the
pommies will let both players know about it on the field of play.

Do not give an opponent a heads up.

In reply to tc1
Any batsman would be pissed off, if the other player not running singles.
Even the commies, commented on the number of Gayle's dot balls in the first match, can you imagine the number he cost the team, by not running his team mates single.
The Private is a known Jackass.

In reply to openning

How can everyone be equal, the opponent is scared of Gayle?.
He is respected and feared, a few notches above the rest. They want him heading back to the dressing room asap.

Just look at the celebrations when he gets out.

In reply to sgtdjones

One has that do, with not running your team mates runs?
Stop being a jackass.

In reply to openning

Remember it takes one to know one.You just insulted yourself.


Cussing, is the last resort of insecure people with a crumbling position trying to appear confident in their dumb decisions.

In reply to ponderiver

Man, shut your face, you live in the man's hut for all these years and chatting shoite, Sudden come fuh Gerrie.

Have you ever don a pair of pads, the first rule of cricket is that you run your partner runs.
what made the situation worse was the universe boor ran his own singles in flash

In reply to openning

Are you really this stupid?

Hope knew of Gayles limitation in running, why would one throw a hissy fit?

Hope is not in the same league as Gayle, show some respect.

It was a dumb move.

When it comes your to country man, there is no such thing as empirical reasoning

In reply to jahmekyah

Bingo

Support the hommies no matter what !!!

If lil bravo did that I would chew him out.

In reply to sgtdjones

Is Gayle God?

In reply to sgtdjones

One Thing I know, Gayle can take of himself

Can anyone say how many time Gayle has been run out? Would one say that he knows how to judge taking runs? Would anyone say, he prized his wicket and will not take too risky runs?

In reply to openning

No did I say he was God?

I show respect to my elders

Its the way I grew up, notice I wasn't dragged up.

Was Hope God to demand Gayle run?

In reply to openning

These mb cricketers full shoite, you have to run your partner runs, he will reacted . Hety did the same on Wednesday.

The problem here is that Gayle ran his singles without a problem, but refused to run Shai's. any batsman would react to this behavior.

In reply to jahmekyah

Gayle is feared whenever he comes to bat.

That shows respect from opponents.

Why can a player on his team, who knows Gayles limitations
do the same.

I wonder if Hope was bating with Gary Sobers and sobers did the identical thing as Gayle, would Hope have had the same reaction ?

In reply to tc1


limestone tc1

Gayle and lil Bravo batted longer in partnership than
anyone on Wednesday did you see lil B get frustrated?

Hetty today, when batting and Gayle wasn't around, was showing emotions, that bumble mentioned: "someone should calm him down, Bish". Tell him to relax he is a great player at 22.

Now I know it is your hommie so....

In reply to sgtdjones

Cricket is a team sport, yes Gayle has years of experience, but even Gayle understand, the team suffers, when he cannot run his team mates singles.
I respect people that show respect

In reply to imusic

Ask Charlie Davis ...he made sure he batted all day to avoid Sobers.

all this is manufactured outrage. nonsense being hyped by a Tit with about 10 different handles trying to curry favour with Jamaicans

i have never seen a player so lackadaisical at running his partner singles.

maybe except Lara when Samwells ran him out

In reply to imusic

I just don't know what Hope would have done, but he would be his right, to be pissed off, even being mad at Gary, for not running his singles.

In reply to openning

OK, how did the team suffer today, by Hope throwing a hissy fit?

We should have won the last game, we had enough runs.

We couldn't defend it, we picked the wrong combination of players owing to injuries. Yet it took over 48 overs for the
Pommies to beat us and they are number one.

In reply to sudden

When you show me one bajan that gets the respect that Gayle gets when he walks to that wicket, we go talk? Until then
your cowmanure education is worthless.

I see you have some free time, oh ya mail order bride catalog late this month huh?

If Campbell did the same to Gayle I would deem it highly disrespecful

When you are young arrogant and cocky, you think you have reach
all that praise has gone to your head

In reply to jahmekyah

respect.

I would do the same to any Trini that disses Gayle.

In reply to openning

Being mad and showing up the other player are 2 different things as you well know

I’m sure apologies were extended by Hope to gayle afterward


Was Morton (RIP) right to show up Shiv the way he did in Sri Lanka?

In reply to sgtdjones

I prefer to discuss the batting of Hetty and the bowling of Cottrell
Everything else is just a bunch of fluff

In reply to openning

This is the wrong thread then sorry

In reply to imusic

People get mad in the heat of battle, then have a couple of drinks after.

In reply to sgtdjones


Gayle ran his singles and 2s , but refused to run Shai.if Gayle was not running his singles and 2s, the discussion would be different.

People suddenly discovering respect for experience ???

Time longer than rope indeed.

In reply to Cheeks

Keep totin

Man allyuh have lots of time on allyuh hands to continue with this chupid nitpicking thread.

In reply to imusic

Not totin sah.

Just observing. Ya gotta admit..it funny nuh rass.

In reply to Cheeks

Life is

In reply to sgtdjones

Is this what this whole thread is about?

Talk about creating a MOUNTAIN out of a mole hill.

In reply to imusic


I do not think Sobers was 'bating'-



Tamarind Jones said that Charlie Davis ran out Sobers, and also many on this mb said Samuels ran out the Prince of Port u Spain.

here is where i see it differently, Gale was run hard when he was on strike and refuse to run when Shai was on strike, the worse feeling on a cricket field is when your partner is not run your singles.
On Wednesday Hety reacted in the same manner as Shai, no one said a word.
prediction before the series is finish lil Bravo will run him out.

In reply to tc1

Limestone tc1

I will hold you to such

In reply to Casper

Did you see what happened live, then you wouldn't write the above.

In reply to tc1 is you one see Hety.And stop tell lie fi cover for your homie.

In reply to tc1

Limestone tc1

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In reply to sgtdjones suh not all bajans carry feelings like some here?

In reply to natty_forever

i am not you, who promise to sue a poster on behalf of one of your hommies,

no partner should turn their back on the other and then run hard when on strike, especially the single to reach 50.
i was taught to run your partners run, that is respect, in fact when your partner is on strike, you work double to get it off strike.

it 's is not like Gayle cannot run, you recall how quickly he got that single to reach 50.

let wait until Campbell refuse to run his single, and let see your point of view.

In reply to sgtdjones

Tamarind Jones, what you recall is a difference scenario, Sobers did not refused to run Davis singles,neither did Charlie refused to run Sobers' . Sobers did not turned his back on the rook Charlie.

Here is the world boss refusing to run legitimate singles when his partner is on strike, but when he is on strike, running hard.

if you ever don a pair of pad, you would understand Shai position, that down wrong.

you don't do that whether you are the World Boss or Sobers.

In reply to tc1

Limestone tc1

Read the above, there are some unwritten rules to follow.

Donning a pair or not, Hope was wrong, he knew of Gayle
liabilities and showed him up.

Common sense says you don't do that to a senior player.

Show respect.

In reply to sgtdjones

I hope you will accept that just because Gayle is Universe Boss in your world it does not mean he is Universe Boss.

I was at the ground and saw Hope spontaneously raise his arm in frustration at Gayle not taking a single that would have been on Gayle, or his Granny for that matter, was backing up. It was one of several instances. Nothing wrong with Gayle being cautious in his running but as non-striker he MUST back up. When he is batting sharp singles are on because his momentum carries him forward. If he simply backs up similar sharp singles can be taken to his partner's batting.

Hope's reaction was natural and hardly disrespectful. I suspect that he would the same if his own mother was not paying attention at a critical moment in a competition. And that is the frustration with Gayle, not that he is slow between wickets but that he is lackadaisical as a non-striker and not backing up.

In reply to sgtdjones

Sgtdunce this post is much to do about nothing.

Everyone knows Gayle doesn't want to run. He never did! That's a plus for the opposing team who will be running hard.

I'm sure the West Indies team talk are to pick up as many singles and reduce our high dot ball count. Not just to do this when Gayle gets outs.

Wunna is de same ppl that like to cuss when ppl have poor strike rates. Yes Gayle can make up for it with boundaries but that only improves his strike rate not yours.

That would be frustrating is hell running long ones and not putting pressure on the fielders.

In reply to imusic

I have said before that you need professional help to deal with your envy-fuelled anti-Bajan psychosis. But you are a bright guy so supporting this argument by sgtdjones is beneath you, despite your illness.... kinda like Gayle, despite his physical challenges not backing up.

And don't try bringing Bish into it to add respectability to this nonsense. Bish was probably trying to tell Hope to watch it that he did not get run out.

In reply to Ray123

Ray Charles

My comments are about the dissing of Gayle.
Hope knew of Gayle Limitations before he set foot on that field of play.

Why diss Gayle on the field of play as millions watch, it showed poor judgment to a player in the twilight of his career.

The Brits are going to use that in comments against both players in this series.

I grew up where the elders were respected, not embarrassed.

It was wrong.

In reply to Logic

Don't tell me you knew what Bish was commenting about?
You can read Bish thoughts?...wow !!!

You must be like sudden with his cow-manure education.

Amazing!!!



I saw what happened on the field and heard Bish comments immediately. He told Hope' watch it', in Trini jargon it means dont do such again.

In reply to Larr Pullo

Or what Morton did to Shiv ...

In reply to goofballs

Who are you referring to here? Gayle or Hope???

As a general rule I hate to see players show-up teammates on the field, regardless of seniority. Those things should be addressed in the dressing room or in the middle between overs. I hated it when Benn did it to teammates and I hate when I see Gabriel doing it nowadays. But I did not see the incident between Hope and Gayle.

In reply to sgtdjones

So because he is a trini you can read Bish thoughts and I cant. Why not just ask Bish if he felt he was being inappropriately disrespectful to Gayle or if Bish was just concerned Hope would lose his concentration at the crease in frustration.

In reply to sgtdjones

By the way, I your own words, why don't you describe exactly what Hope did that you thought was "disrespectful".

In reply to Logic

I am wondering about your logic, the more you dig the deeper you will end up.

I never said I can read Bish thoughts.



Notice what it means in Trini jargon?

So we have a bunch of youngmen being constantly derided for their slow scoring rates. Hope's game is not on the power level as Gayle's so knocking the ball around is where he effects the game. So now he has to change his way of batting. Even the game before he while he totalled in the 60's he left many 1s and twos out there. We are not going to consistently beat top teams like that. So he and the other youngsters must just become passengers on the team and lose focus because Gayle is in the lineup?

In reply to sgtdjones
Trini jargon. lol. Means the same in Bajan jargon, sarge. Unless you can make a claim that "watch it" is used exclusively when youngsters are showing disrespect to their elders then you just blowing smoke.

In reply to Logic

When my dad or grandparents used the jargon in T&T,
'watch it', I understood not to do such again.

Oh, I did challenge them on occasions and got a smack in the rass, now I learned quickly what it meant in T&T.

In reply to sgtdjones

I gone a few days and see you were getting attacked by de watchdogs!

Maybe the dream team

Or they dream that they are the dream team.

I saw indiscipline, a certain degree of entitled cockiness and blatant disrespect of another player, whether he is great or not.
I would call him out on it in the dressing room and tell him to watch it..........unless his obedience to masta is all that counts.

The concern here is

In reply to Walco

A voice of reason!
Endorsed.

In reply to goofballs

Such is normal when one cannot dispute facts attacking the
messenger is par for the course. Forget the gist of the
thread; support the hommies seems to be their motive..

I called out Gabriel and Polly for unsportmanship conduct when it occurred.