Odell Beckham traded to Cleveland

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link Curtis Joined: Dec 4, 2002
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3/12/19 8:39:53 PM 
Browns looking good, should be favored to win AFC North.

link maj Joined: Mar 8, 2017
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3/12/19 9:42:58 PM 
In reply to Curtis

Brown's are cursed and so is Odell. Good riddance.

link Ayenmol Joined: May 4, 2003
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3/13/19 12:14:07 AM 
Caant stay healthy. If he does they can be dangerous.

But the Browns were already on their way up...his presence will be a boost to the Locker room. Will raise their confidence.

link maj Joined: Mar 8, 2017
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3/13/19 2:00:48 AM 
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This guy is a self centered a-hole. He will not be good in the locker room. This is why the Giants traded him.

link Ayenmol Joined: May 4, 2003
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3/13/19 9:04:01 AM 
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The guy was low 9n antics this past year. There has never been reports of him being a distraction in the lockerroom.

His sideline antics were the issue.

Distraction in the lockerroom means someone is causing division among the players. I have not heard anything about that.

I would venture to say the Giants, who have not articulated the reason for the trade, got rid of him becauuse he gets hurt often, and he was their most trade able asset in their quest to rebuild.

link ray Joined: Feb 7, 2003
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3/13/19 9:41:34 AM 
Le'Veon Bell to Jets

link ray Joined: Feb 7, 2003
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3/13/19 9:42:38 AM 
That OBJ trade is not that bad a deal for Giants as some people make it out to be...I think it's a good deal

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3/13/19 10:38:37 AM 
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Giants are good at keeping their dirty laundry in house. He is a camera ho yes, but I'd bet he's not much better in the locker. Also Shepard is emerging as a star.

link maj Joined: Mar 8, 2017
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3/13/19 10:39:21 AM 
In reply to ray

Same here a replacement for Collins and picks for the defense.

link Ayenmol Joined: May 4, 2003
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3/13/19 2:17:22 PM 
In reply to maj

Giants are good at keeping their dirty laundry in house. He is a camera ho yes, but I'd bet he's not much better in the locker.


I guess you are free to do that...but there were quite a few players from the Giants on that boat with him.

I would venture to say the team is more split on their qb than on Beckham, but that's just me.

The Giants played this brilliantly and made the Steelers look like amateurs.

They need to rid themselves of Eli next...Draft day trade?

link maj Joined: Mar 8, 2017
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3/13/19 3:08:54 PM 
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They need to rid themselves of Eli next...Draft day trade?


yes draft a QB please, one more year for Eli.

link Tryangle Joined: Jul 11, 2004
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3/14/19 2:10:11 PM 
I agree on the Giants needing to get something out of this, they aren't going to win the division *with* OBJ, so send him outside the conference and use the picks to rebuild the squad.

Barkley's the real deal, so expect them to get Eli's heir in the first round, then add pieces to their D (replacing Collins, Vernon and others).

All eyes on the Browns indeed. Baker, Chubb, Landry, OBJ, Njoku and Kareem Hunt, and an emerging young defense. Not making the playoffs will be seen as a huge disappointment for the Browns faithful.

link NYCGURU Joined: Nov 29, 2003
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3/14/19 2:39:39 PM 
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I agree with your take. How many games did they win last year again. The Giants are facing a total rebuild that will be sped up by acquiring assets and dumping salaries to create cap space to move the rebuild along.OBJ is a wonderful talent, but the overall roster is devoid of talent so to me it makes sense.

link seaegg99 Joined: Apr 6, 2005
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3/14/19 2:52:47 PM 
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Didn't lose games because of OBJ. Offensive line sucked as did Eli early in the season. Defensive players were traded for low draft picks. Not his fault they draft badly. Kid is liked in the locker room. Problem is still there (Eli) and now Barkley will be run into the ground. Receivers are not chain movers. Scoring points will be a problem. Looks like a pretty rough season sad

link maj Joined: Mar 8, 2017
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3/14/19 3:25:54 PM 
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Evan Engram and Sterling Shepard are emerging talents..

link seaegg99 Joined: Apr 6, 2005
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3/14/19 5:38:54 PM 
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They are complementary players not OBJ who demands defenses focus on him. Huge difference! They will be defensed much easier now. Teams will put 8 & 9 men in the box to defend Barkley, Engram might not even be on the field then because he is a poor blocker.

link ray Joined: Feb 7, 2003
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3/14/19 5:47:27 PM 
They signed Golden Tate, not that big a deal...but something

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3/14/19 5:56:04 PM 
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well see but i see them both as contributing heavily to the offense, because of Saquon Barkley teams will have to account for him.

link StumpCam Joined: Jan 1, 2004
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3/14/19 6:25:38 PM 
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I commend you sir, for understanding the real issues at hand! All the other stuff is pure BS!
Gettleman or whatever his fcuking name is will be mere footnote in Giant history when its all over!

We live in an age of social media! Almost all professional athlete have a social media presence! If Gettleman does not get that, he is completely clueless and is stuck in the 20th century!

link Ayenmol Joined: May 4, 2003
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3/14/19 7:00:22 PM 
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I can provide you with games from just this past year when Beckham was out and the Rb florished!

And games when Becckham played and the run game was stymied.

The NFL is about matchups.

link Tryangle Joined: Jul 11, 2004
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3/15/19 8:27:18 AM 
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I like Tate, but if the G-men are committed to the rebuild, why splurge on a four-year deal on a guy turning 31? Plus, he's a slot guy/YAC fella, the same as Shepard.

link imusic Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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3/15/19 10:21:14 AM 
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Interesting.

They trade Odell but keep Eli

Figures

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3/15/19 10:22:47 AM 
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Nobody's going to buy Eli lol lol lol

link DukeStreet Joined: Dec 2, 2002
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3/15/19 12:45:47 PM 
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Can Eli still throw the ball more than 30 yards?

link NYCGURU Joined: Nov 29, 2003
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3/15/19 12:48:17 PM 
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I was is no way suggesting that the G men lost because of OBJ. Rather the point i was trying to make, was that the roster was devoid of talent and even though OBJ and Barkley are special talets, they still were a bad team. Your points are all valid in my opinion. They now need to draft well and create cap space to sign targeted free agents. Finding a QB will also be vital.

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