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link Ayenmol Joined: May 4, 2003
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3/15/19 1:45:12 PM 
In reply to NYCGURU

They were a bad team because they have a terrible qb right now and the defense knows it.

The team gives zero effort. The defense sleep walks through games.

Eli is the Giants problem....and maybe Coach.

Last year the Giants had the best young RB and a top 3 wr...Who else had that? Look what Dak did after getting a viable target to add to Elliott!

Giants underachieved!

link seaegg99 Joined: Apr 6, 2005
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3/15/19 8:03:06 PM 
In reply to Ayenmol

Think these guys focus is getting rid of all those associated with Jerry Reese. Now hearing Sheppard is on the block since him and tate are both slot receivers. Too many pieces without any time playing together. Takes a while to form cohesion in Football.

link Ayenmol Joined: May 4, 2003
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3/16/19 7:33:52 AM 
In reply to seaegg99

Jerry Reese? Takes time to form cohesion?

That's talking head stuff.

I do not pay attention to talking heads, they got agendas

Giants won two Superbowls under Reese. And between those two Championships they underachieved.

Even the year they won the second Championship they only won 9 games...so where did cohesion come in?

This team has been up and down for a decade now....through it all Eli been there.

Dude is wildly inconsistent. Does not inspire his team. One day can look like Montana, the next like Bortles!

But for some reason the Mara's scared to rid themselves of him...

Manning and Flaco are 2 peas in the same pod! Ravens just got rid of the latter...and right now he got a stronger arm.

link Curtis Joined: Dec 4, 2002
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3/16/19 8:51:04 AM 
There comes that time when, if your QB is not Brady or Brees and they're over 37 yrs old, your team is in purgatory unless it has a killer defense.

Shed the QB when they hit the wall. Some take a few years in that zone.

Then again, it's an easy excuse for the GM and coach during this period, so these guys are kept around.

link seaegg99 Joined: Apr 6, 2005
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3/16/19 6:43:24 PM 
In reply to Ayenmol

Cohesion is in reference to the units cutting and pasting players on both sides of the ball. Reese was a pretty good GM over the years. Team was up and down because of the bad clock management of Tom Coughlan for years. Many, many games were lost in the last quarter after leading going into it.

Even the year they won the second Championship they only won 9 games...so where did cohesion come in?


Giants had a pretty good defensive unit in 2012 (Osi, JPP, Tuck and Linval Joseph) formed a very good defensive front forced it's way to the super bowl. You do not think the years playing together as a cohesive unit played a part in winning.

All Giant fans know Eli is inconsistent and limited still though he won two Super Bowls. Wish he would retire but who leaves 23 million on the table.

link Ayenmol Joined: May 4, 2003
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3/16/19 10:18:21 PM 
In reply to seaegg99

Giants had a pretty good defensive unit in 2012 (Osi, JPP, Tuck and Linval Joseph) formed a very good defensive front forced it's way to the super bowl


So they did not have a good defense the year before with these same players? They went 8-8 then...


This team been underachievers. Period. Starts with Eli...NYers hated Eli before they won the first Championship.

Teammates complained about him constaantly becore then.

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