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HEADLINE: Bravo, Pollard blacklisted
CaribbeanCricket.com
2019-04-01 06:43:33
Former West Indies Cricket Coach Phil Simmons will be available to coach the West Indies team again if needed after July 15th, 2019. Speaking from overseas during the Isports radio programme on i95.5fm with host Andre Errol Baptiste on Saturday night, Simmons stated, "At the moment I am contracted to Afghanistan and there can be no talk about West Indies cricket. I'm focused on Afghanistan and how we get ready for the Cricket World Cup starting in May.”
He continued, “But after the Finals on July 15th, my contract is up with Afghanistan, but nobody knows the future, but my whole aim now is to win the World Cup so after 15th July, let us see what happens. But everyone who knows me understands how much I love the region and how hard it has been for me over the last three years dealing with that matter. I am just glad it is over and my name has been cleared. Most importantly, the apology from the new President Ricky Skerritt goes a long way in clearing up a lot of the talk under the previous administration. I believe that this shows that this new team is about the interest of cricket and not about themselves.”
Simmons, who made his Test debut in 1988 and played 26 Test matches for the West Indies, spoke about the many ills he experienced as West Indies coach and despite his success with the team winning the ICC World T20 final on April 3rd, 2016, recalled a number of situations he had to endure.
He said, “I remember the former president telling me that we could not pick certain players (named called Dwayne Bravo and Keiron Pollard) because they passed him straight and did not say anything, how they had no manners, team selection was just too personal. In fact, he said unless they play for Trinidad and Tobago, they should not play for the West Indies. This was also echoed at the selector's meetings.”
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Larr Pullo
2019-04-01 06:48:33
Jamaican Dave should have been exposed a long time ago
positiveg
2019-04-01 08:58:53
In reply to Larr Pullo
Correct is right
To say this man continued to act with so much impunity is ridiculous.
But then again, nothing happens before its time.
Walco
2019-04-01 09:23:17
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Two things. Bravo was definitely permanently blacklisted from ODIs, and both players were blacklisted and not selected for the 2015 WC.
Second, I need clarification on this quote
He said, "During my time, four years ago, I had a 45 minute argument with Browne over the selection of Chris Gayle, with Browne saying he (Gayle) was too old and should not be selected and at the time.
Did Browne say that Gayle was old and should not be selected because of his age? Or did he say that Gayle should not be selected because of his age and his bad back? I ask this question because of the last part of the quote where Browne is quoted as saying that Gayle should not be selected at this time. If the reason for non-selection is age, then "at this time" would be unnecessary and irrelevant.
By the way, I have a lot of respect for Phil and he should stay as far away from West Indies cricket as possible. He is too nice a person for that cesspool.
Emir
2019-04-01 09:57:30
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
For all those who disputed Bravo and Polly were blacklisted, well unless you waiting for the holy Prophet Jesus Christ (uwbp) to say it from his mouth, then you need to apologize.
Polly and Bravo must be part of the WC squad and the new president must create an environment that will promote fairness- and this must begin with the immediate firing of the current selection panel.
Name a new selection panel whose first job is to select the squad for the WC.
And one more thing, Pybus and the Cameron appointed coaching set up MUST HAVE NO SAY ON SELECTION.
Narper
2019-04-01 09:59:41
Didn't Sammy expose Cameron at the presentation ceremony after winning the T20 world cup?
Brung is as bad as Cameron
soloview
2019-04-01 10:11:55
In reply to Emir
As a Trin born West Indian Fan I cannot support picking Pollard on the team now. I do think he was black listed and unfairly left out of the squad. But to pick him now ? I dont think he is in the best team presently.
Honestly I think he need to reinvent himself in the game . he has not evolved with the game enough to be consistently successful.
Walco
2019-04-01 10:20:46
In reply to soloview
Pollard eventually made it back onto the ODI Team after being blacklisted and was dropped for poor performance.
Ewart
2019-04-01 10:48:05
In reply to Larr Pullo
Jamaican Dave should have been exposed a long time ago
True.
But Dave Cameron's behaviour has nothing to do with being Jamaican. As we have seen it was the
Jamaican faction that dumped him
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sudden
2019-04-01 10:53:27
the best thing DDave ever did was to get rid of dem Prima Donnas.
Skerritt will do well only to pay the obvious lip service to the issue
mikesiva
2019-04-01 11:09:18
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
It was ridiculous to leave Big Bravo out of the ODI side. At the time of his omission, he was the only West Indian on a cricinfo World ODI XI for the year.
sgtdjones
2019-04-01 11:49:39
Personal Comment
What Simmo stated we all have had an inkling of such
from the Administrators at CWI, is there anything new?
CWI has two new Administrators, it still has 12 old men that control the CWI Board plus all of Cameron lackeys
still in Administration.
Pybus had Brung appointed as a selector.
Before West Indies Cricket can improve one needs
to get rid of the above junk. Such is a costly expense in futility since CWI is technically bankrupt.
So soon, let the cursing begin as we all have seen it before.
carl0002
2019-04-01 12:26:42
Pollard blacklisted himself from WI cricket and Bravo have no business even thinking he should play for the WI team. Again. Ever.
I see Skerritt talking himself into a corner to the point where Phil now stating his availability. Lets see if he has the guts to pull the trigger on that one which will probably only serve to muster an early revolt against him.
jacksprat
2019-04-01 13:09:42
In reply to Larr Pullo
Jamaican Dave should have been exposed a long time ago
You still continue to use the "Jamaican" appellation as if it were an epithet, but lest you forget neither "
Jamaican Marlon" nor "
Jamaican Chris" escaped his nonsense. Moreover, it was"
Jamaican Heaven" and the JCA which helped to dislodge him from his high horse!!
Your Jamaican obsession is showing!
I know that
Jamaican rejection was hard but hush!
granite
2019-04-01 13:44:55
Raggs
2019-04-01 13:52:47
If you walk pass your employer and he catches your eye and you diss him that's disrespect in any manner you want to take it.
pollard and bravo behaving like black men who catch some money and now bigger than anyone else in the crab barrel.
Narper
2019-04-01 13:55:34
In reply to granite
He lucky Polly passed his straight...and not slap him up with his shoes like he did to Tino
Narper
2019-04-01 13:56:46
In reply to Raggs
Dem just didn't recognize the Big Idiot
camos
2019-04-01 14:14:39
People don't say hello and you vex, what if you had said hello and they didn't answer, you would kill them?
TyTy35
2019-04-01 14:23:42
I agree that Cameron was arrogant in his dealings with those players and L'il Bravo as well. Selection to the WI is not something to be used to settle scores so if this is true as Phil claims Cameron is a real dutty skunt. However dont forget that both Bravo and Pollard refused selection on numerous occasions including to England in 2017 and the qualifiers for the world cup. So maybe that is part of the reason they were also blacklisted.
camos
2019-04-01 14:32:12
Didn't Ernest Hilarie tell the selectors Gayle not available?
jacksprat
2019-04-01 14:43:09
In reply to camos
Didn't Ernest Hilarie tell the selectors Gayle not available?
Yes. He did all that and much more.
Cameron was the last remnant of that despicable and despised H&H regime. When Simmonds spoke about former president being small minded, vindictive, and trying to make himself the center of attention, it brought back memories.
How many persons know who is in charge of the England Cricket Board and how many Presidents are on television or busy tweeting.
Who can forget the self- absorbed former CEO preening all over TV at Lords and acting as if West Indies cricket belonged to him?
I recall him profiting on that England tour and trying to steal the spotlight from the players when every other cricket CEO rightly remained anonymous and behind the scenes.
As Gayle rightly pointed out, no one came to see Hillaire and his ilk.
Baje
2019-04-01 14:49:57
In reply to Emir
For all those who disputed Bravo and Polly were blacklisted, well unless you waiting for the holy Prophet Jesus Christ (uwbp) to say it from his mouth, then you need to apologize.
So how did Polly make it back twice..away against Pakistan and home against Pakistan? Did he make a backdoor deal with Dave? Dwayne was definitely blacklisted
InHindsight
2019-04-01 14:50:30
camos
2019-04-01 14:54:04
In reply to InHindsight
Not a Jamaica ting
you guys are never comfortable with Jamaican,Gayle captaincy was problematic for that fact!
sgtdjones
2019-04-01 15:01:01
In reply to Raggs
If you walk pass your employer and he catches your eye and you diss him that's disrespect in any manner you want to take it.
pollard and bravo behaving like black men who catch some money and now bigger than anyone else in the crab barrel.
Are the employers the ones that attract sponsors?
Ok, I see why CWI gats so few sponsors.
I was off the opinion its the players that entice entities
that sponsor cricket.
So an employer uses money that players get thru sponsorship
and Administrators view such as they own it.
Now we see why Dave is on the outside looking in?
Karma is a bytch.
jacksprat
2019-04-01 15:09:49
In reply to InHindsight
I didn't think I'd live to see the day when I agree with you.
Oh my, I will then have to reassess my position.
And by the way, I see no difference between the "Jamaican Dave" nonsense and your "Yardie Bwoy Cameron" retort.
Norm
2019-04-01 15:19:35
Dave was a really petty skun*.
How could such small-minded skun*s hang on to power so long in the Caribbean? Part of it is that those who initially appear more learned and "decent" very often end up proving themselves to be just as small-minded, when it comes to money.
One has to wonder what the mood is these days at the Guyana Cricket Board.
Dukes
2019-04-01 15:22:49
In reply to Ewart
You beat me to it.I was thinking the same thing as you when I saw Larr's post.
Norm
2019-04-01 15:45:46
In reply to Ewart
it was the Jamaican faction that dumped him
After they stumbled in the previous election. It is interesting that Dave instantly turned his attention to "cleaning up" the JCA. Let's see how that will go.
sudden
2019-04-01 17:23:13
who was responsible for electing him in the first place?
Fivestar
2019-04-01 17:34:10
In reply to Raggs
If you walk pass your employer and he catches your eye and you diss him that's disrespect in any manner you want to take it.
pollard and bravo behaving like black men who catch some money and now bigger than anyone else in the crab barrel.
What was better for West Indies cricket in terms of team selection at the time. A player who kissed then president Dave Cameron's ass? Or a player who performed on the field?
sgtdjones
2019-04-01 17:50:58
In reply to sudden
who was responsible for electing him in the first place?
Ask Conde?
Casper
2019-04-01 19:21:49
In reply to sudden
the best thing DDave ever did was to get rid of dem Prima Donnas.
Skerritt will do well only to pay the obvious lip service to the issue.
Let's recall that during that period "Casper" was pointedly opposed to those Prime donne.
But I have to admit that when we going those those lean times, we could have done with the service of some.
However, as time has passed, we can't afford more than one or two in the team, one of which, Gayle, is quite a liability already in the field and subject to regular injuries. Hopefully, Gayle's power runs with the bat will exceed the negative concerns and impact regarding his fielding and running between the wicket.
Raggs
2019-04-01 20:26:45
In reply to Fivestar
Kissing ass or respecting a person's position?
camos
2019-04-01 20:34:06
In reply to Raggs
Cameron is immature, you can't carry feeling for someone not saying hello, if he had said hi and they did not response may be a different case!
Emir
2019-04-02 08:44:45
In reply to Raggs
You comments is indicative of a colonial mindset; where the master must be worshiped.
The reality is modern management is very different; in great companies, it is the president who go out of her way to meet and greet her employees in gatherings. In company musings; the president proclaims she works for her employees, not the other way around.
Now this; In cricket, Cameron is not the owner of CWI/WICBC as a businessman who own his company that he founded, developed and built.
If Cameron was good human being, a decent president, and an intelligent person who cares for WI cricket, in the situation described by the affable and venerated coach, he would have rushed to greet Polly and Bravo with a friendly handshake or male embrace, he would have showed them kindness and professionalism.
Instead, he choose to warn Phil, not to select them "cuase dey pass pon me straight."
Headley
2019-04-02 09:29:49
In reply to jacksprat
I know that Jamaican rejection was hard but hush! big grin
Great Expectations can bedevil one for a very long time,
especially if they relate to a peppery lady who likes to torment men.
Mr Dickens 'write' a whole book about heartbreak and the lasting effects of social alienation. Every now and then in spite of the best 'therapy' and attempts to suppress the emotional toil it will flare up.
Yamfoot
2019-04-02 14:39:18
In reply to Raggs
So deal with the disrespect in a disciplinary meeting. Dont use selection against him, unless as a result of thr meeting, the players are banned,
Narper
2019-04-02 14:57:43
In reply to Headley
In Trinidad it is called tabanca
sgtdjones
2019-04-02 15:14:27
In reply to Narper
In Trinidad it is called tabanca
Charlotte St Headley aware of dat word Narps,
dem omen of the above-named street taught him early
when he was at UWI.
tc1
2019-04-02 17:19:03
[b]In reply to camos[/b
The same could be said of Holder and Sammy
Chrissy
2019-04-02 18:31:22
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Duh! We told allyuh dis.
Chrissy
2019-04-02 18:38:59
If you want to know a man's character, give him power.
With regard to our cricket, that applies to national boards, regional boards and persons they appoint be they selectors or umpires.
If allyuh ever knew the truth.
You'd be surprised at the number of youngsters with talent who have been destroyed by these monsters from school level, let alone club level and the reasons for them never getting a chance.
Chrissy
2019-04-02 18:40:17
In reply to Norm
You think the directors in dem territories are any different?
powen001
2019-04-02 18:49:13
In reply to jacksprat
y
ou still continue to use the "Jamaican" appellation as if it were an epithet, but lest you forget neither "Jamaican Marlon" nor "Jamaican Chris" escaped his nonsense. Moreover, it was"Jamaican Heaven" and the JCA which helped to dislodge him from his high horse!!
Your Jamaican obsession is showing!
I know that Jamaican rejection was hard but hush!
O U C H !!!!
POINT
2019-04-02 19:00:59
In reply to Chrissy
I agree with your assessment regarding
the Selection of Players at every stage of the Game .
This is precisely why I have stated
that ALL Cricket Boards MUST be Restructured . The MASA MENTALITY that
permeates ALL Cricket Boards must come
to an end .
Let once again state that these despicable Acts are precisely why
I want Players Representations on ALL Cricket Boards .
Chrissy
2019-04-02 21:43:34
In reply to POINT
Yep - we had player representation from all age groups at our community football club.
Headley
2019-04-02 22:02:31