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In reply to Headley

Thanks.

At some point,Champs should be used as a barometer to field athletes to Carifta. Too soon for trials.Cant argue with coaches who have kept their charges out of the trials.

In reply to RoyalDad

We used to have a system of picking athletes based on performance at meets all over the world. Every year there was controversy. Teddy Mc Cook put his foot down and said the ONLY basis for selection would be performance AT NATIONAL TRIALS (except for possible selection due to absence at Trials for medically certified reasons).

Even after Trials there was the Merlene Ottey fiasco in 2000(?). Even after Trials in 2008 some folk were saying the new girl SAFP should give way to the Queen VCB.

Trials make sense in a democracy.


For CARIFTA Games

If the selection is based on Champs: athletes at UWI, UTEC etc (eg Kemba Nelson); athletes at High School who are unable to run at Champs (eg if they have transferred to a different school like Anthony Cox this year); and athletes who are based outside of Jamaica (eg Brianna Williams and Brandon Pottinger this year) could not be selected.



Complete agreement. The coaches need to make that decision. This is an unusual year since CARIFTA TRIALS comes after Champs.

In reply to RoyalDad

Shaquena Foot (first year Class 1) has run two 400m races this year she has run sub 53 on both occasions. Very few, maybe 4 or 5 senior Jamaican women can consistently run sub 53.

She is not very tall. She has not run any special times in the 400mh. Why is her coach endangering her career by asking her to run the 400mh when she is so good at the 400m?


Section 1 Finals
Petersfield Foote, Shaquena........1 52.79
St. Catherine Allen, Annakay.......2 53.95
Vere Technical Pryce, Nickisha.....3 54.41

In reply to Headley

She (Foote) has some 400mH talent and if she gets a rhythm for the event it may be her best route going forward.

I am more puzzled by her coach having Antonio Watson running the 400mH.

In reply to JoeGrine

I cannot see how it makes sense.

In reply to Headley

Understood.

In reply to JoeGrine

Shaquena Foote Wins CARIFTA 400mh

I am no expert but I do not see a 400m hurdler there. She is not tall and the hurdles get higher at the next level.

In reply to Headley

I believe the hurdle height for the 400mh is 30 inches and is the same at the senior level. I don't believe Melaine Walker was tall either.

Shaquena Foote does not seem to be very fast, and she will need speed for the 400 flat.

It is now a sprint at the elite level (Shaunae Miller). At the Junior level, we have had 400m stalwarts who were more talented (Anneisha McLaughlin, Chris-Ann Gordon, Junelle Bromfield) and they were not as successful as we would have hoped.

The 400m is stacked right now, for both males and females.

In reply to NHu

Yes 30 inches is the height for Women's 400mh. I do not know if it is the same at Champs, but I suspect it is and you are correct.

I cannot remember Anneisha McLaughlin's times but I am pretty sure from memory that Bromfield, James and Gordon were not running sub 53 in their first year Class 1.

As you know Melaine came to the 400mh by way of the 100mh so she had already shown her hurdling capability at a very high level.

In reply to Headley

Your memory is failing you my brother. Bromfield ran 51.74 in her first year of class 1. What's even crazier, that year she won the 1500, 800, 400 and 4x400.

As for Ms. Gordon...she still holds the class 2 400m record: 51.62

I believe Sherica Jackson is the only one who has really excelled at the highest level, but she wants to do the 100/200. Let's see how Ms. Foote progresses. Her best event may be the 800m.

In reply to Headley

You would not see a hurdler there as she is still new to the event. If we are looking for "down the road" potential it will be the 400mH or 800m in that order for her.

400m - she does not have the pure speed required for the event.
1500m - not sure of her aerobic capacity, however, this event could be intriguing.
800m - her sub 53.00 400m talent will be a major asset

In reply to NHu

I must plead guilty. I did not remember Bromfield's sub 52 in 2016 and was not aware of Gordon's class 2 record.

In reply to JoeGrine

Noted. We will see how she progresses in the 400mh and 800m. Due to the CARIFTA Trials schedule she did the 400m instead of the 800m. She will do the 400mh and 400m at CARIFTA in about a week so we will see how she does with some competition.

In reply to Headley

It is not so much competition as it is more repetition and concentration on the event instead of having her running so many different events.

One of the problems a coach lacking in experience can face is having a multi-talented athlete and allowing that talent to roam instead of focusing. Junelle Broomfield is one such athlete. Why she was not allowed to remain with the 800m is a mystery to me.

In reply to JoeGrine

As for Gordon,what is her status?
Very exciting champs performer running that record.

Cemented it with NCAA champ run.

In reply to RoyalDad

I am more into the high school track but she (Gordon) and McLaughlin are the only two Holmwood girls I can remember that have gone on to the next level.

Gordon showed much promise and had range winning Class 4 100m and also winning 800m races. I think she is ok at the 400m distance and as you pointed out won at NCAA.

In reply to JoeGrine

As more of our better athletes remain where they are discovered and nourished it will become even more important for coaches to focus their charges and resist the temptation to spread them over many events.

I believe this year KC provided a good example of limiting the work of top quality athletes. I hope it takes root.

Make sure to read this well written article by "TC" Campbell in today's Observer.

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I am wondering if the issue with Farr at Carifta Trials was rest as posited by Hubert Lawrence here.

Or was it that he attempted a 400m and 400mh double at Champs?

In reply to Headley

Or as the writer suggests, he miscalculated the qualifying process.