HEADLINE: New CWI Controversy No. 1

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link CaribbeanCricket.com Joined: Mar 6, 2003
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4/12/19 7:48:15 AM 

Attempts at a major shakeup within Cricket West Indies (CWI) have landed the regional body on a possible collision course with the law courts, mere weeks after the appointment of new president Ricky Skerritt.
At the centre of the controversy is former assistant coach Vasbert Drakes, who is demanding urgent relief in the form of reinstatement and/or compensation from CWI in response to what he believes was the unlawful termination of his services yesterday.In an interview with Barbados TODAY, Drakes’ attorney Ralph Thorne QC revealed that the coach and former fast bowler was “surprised and very disappointed with the sudden turn of events.”
“They contacted him yesterday by telephone to tell him that his services were no longer required,” Thorne revealed.
“I then sent a letter to them indicating that it was not the proper way to terminate my client’s services and that they ought to do it in a more formal manner. They responded by sending him a letter late yesterday evening confirming that his engagement was at an end.
“Having received it in writing, I have indicated that their actions are unlawful and indicated to them that we are prepared to file proceedings in the court of law and are also seeking compensation,” said Thorne.He added: “Whether they reply or not, we intend to pursue this matter and I am willing to move this course to grant urgent relief in terms of reinstatement and or compensation.”
The developments coincide with sweeping changes announced by the newly appointed President, which include the sacking of head coach, Richard Pybus who has been replaced by former Barbados and West Indies captain and accredited coach Floyd Reifer.


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link InHindsight Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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4/12/19 8:39:33 AM 
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

Ummmm


As far as I recall Drakes was't mentioned in the press conference yesterday


I am wary of sweeping changes for the sake f it.

Anybody, should drakes have seen it coming?
Is it warranted?
If yes, doesn't he have a right to compensation?

I don't know enough to express an opinion

More later

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 26, 2007
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4/12/19 8:55:36 AM 
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

The developments coincide with sweeping changes announced by the newly appointed President, which include the sacking of head coach, Richard Pybus who has been replaced by former Barbados and West Indies captain and accredited coach Floyd Reifer.

Is Drakes an accredited coach like Otis Gibson and Floyd Reifer, his (extensive) experience as coach notwithstanding?

link Emir Joined: Aug 9, 2014
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4/12/19 9:07:27 AM 
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I am disappointed at Drakes- his employment is "at will." This means he can be terminated at anytime for no reason.

He is acting very unprofessional, knowing he was appointed in a quasi political process and the folks who appointed him are on longer in power, it is therefore expected a new regime will make changes in management to which he was part off.

One cannot be afraid not be held to blackmail of a former employee threatening ac lawsuit.

link Star Joined: Nov 28, 2002
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4/12/19 9:34:02 AM 
In reply to InHindsight
I am wary of sweeping changes for the sake f it.

Elections comes with consequences. You should know that.

Newly elected officials fear sabotage weather real or imagined from loyalist of defeated opponents and as a result they effect changes they are comfortable with to help them manage a transparent and trust worthy organisation.

This is common practice any where in the world.

link cherri Joined: Feb 16, 2004
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4/12/19 9:37:58 AM 
Wondering what would have happened if Campbell had the same reaction.....what goes around comes around.....karma they say is a female K9.....

link carl0002 Joined: Apr 16, 2003
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4/12/19 9:48:50 AM 
You mean they could have appointed Vasbert Drakes as interim coach and went with Reifer instead?
shock

link Slipfeeler Joined: Dec 22, 2015
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4/12/19 10:59:03 AM 
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Well, since they refused to voluntarily relinquish their positions of continual undermining and destruction of WI cricket then they have to be forced out. So ironic they are now feeling the same emotions of many players who were embarrassingly removed from team not attributable to any cricketing reasons or performance on the field but just bitter and blatant insularity with many mismanagement and misguided policies that were not in the best interest of WI cricket.
Weed them all out Mr Skerritt.

link openning Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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4/12/19 11:46:21 AM 
Sudden

Skerritt- Dont Rescind Everything DDave Did


Employees have rights.
It would be good to know if Drakes had a contract with the WICB.

link InHindsight Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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4/12/19 12:08:36 PM 
In reply to openning

If not that weakens his argument

link camos Joined: May 6, 2003
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4/12/19 12:31:40 PM 
In reply to openning

trust his lawyer looked into, whether he had a contract or was an employee, only entitled to severance pay.

link FuzzyWuzzy Joined: Jun 1, 2005
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4/12/19 1:10:07 PM 
I am disappointed at Drakes- his employment is "at will." This means he can be terminated at anytime for no reason.

He is acting very unprofessional, knowing he was appointed in a quasi political process and the folks who appointed him are on longer in power, it is therefore expected a new regime will make changes in management to which he was part off.

In reply to Emir


so it was ok for ottis and phil to sue but not vasbert?

link jelfew Joined: Jan 15, 2004
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4/12/19 1:16:40 PM 
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The more things change, the more they remain the same. You are right. Elections do have consequences and newly elected leaders are always going to change things. The consequence is that some with valid contracts get thrown out. It is their right to seek compensation, if and when applicable. The newly elected leaders pay very little attention to the financial cost. they want to do their thing. They came to office to a great extent because the voters want to see change. Some changes are good and some are not so good.
Vasbert may have expected to be thrown out but yes we want that to be done with dignity. We cannot say Cameron was disrespectful to the workers/players and the new leader comes in and the same is done under him. Anyway, a phone call may have been made to forewarn him out of respect which is then followed up by the formal letter. The lawyers will now have to sort things out as to compensation.
One can remember that Des Haynes sued CWI and many thought he had no case. It dragged onfor years until the incoming President, Wes Hall ended it by offering compensation.

link jen Joined: Jan 4, 2008
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4/12/19 1:25:26 PM 
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It would be good to know if Drakes had a contract with the WICB.


Vassie only had tour contract.

link bobby Joined: Feb 14, 2003
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4/12/19 1:35:06 PM 
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Wait employees suddenly have rights? But the cricketers didn't have any when they were being victimised, sidelined and fired by Crooked Dave and his Cabal?

link FuzzyWuzzy Joined: Jun 1, 2005
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4/12/19 1:47:26 PM 
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I would think a player's contract is different from a coach's...I dunno

link hawk Joined: Apr 1, 2007
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4/12/19 1:59:30 PM 
In reply to Emir

how convenient for you to make sure a statement

I am disappointed at Drakes- his employment is "at will." This means he can be terminated at anytime for no reason.

He is acting very unprofessional, knowing he was appointed in a quasi political process and the folks who appointed him are on longer in power, it is therefore expected a new regime will make changes in management to which he was part off.

One cannot be afraid not be held to blackmail of a former employee threatening ac lawsuit.


How dare you Vasbert, take your firing and go your way without any compensation, don't you know only certain people are allow to seek compensation for a sacking

link pariaman Joined: Mar 11, 2011
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4/12/19 2:17:37 PM 
In reply to hawk

Stay quiet and go to the Courts and prove your case

No need to behave like a little girl

Simmons accepted his firing took them to court and went along with his life

Got a next job won his case and ended up with compensation as well

He might even get back his job

Behave with dignity Vasbert!

link hawk Joined: Apr 1, 2007
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4/12/19 2:26:59 PM 
In reply to pariaman

I remember Simmons being quite vocal, and many others who got sacked

link FuzzyWuzzy Joined: Jun 1, 2005
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4/12/19 3:32:14 PM 
In reply to hawk

These trinis have convenient memory

link imusic Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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4/12/19 3:43:36 PM 
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It could be interpreted that the call was a courtesy to inform him of the dismissal prior to an official notice of termination.

Either way, coaches get fired all the time in every sport. In fact, the term “hired to be fired” is a known saying in the coaching world.

Also......many coaches pursue legal proceedings against their former employers. Few, if any, that I recall, do so publicly the day afterward.

link FuzzyWuzzy Joined: Jun 1, 2005
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4/12/19 4:29:15 PM 
In reply to imusic

As I see it it is the attorney making the public statements not vasbert

link InHindsight Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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4/12/19 4:35:16 PM 
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

You haven't noticed I raised issue with Drakes' dismissal?! rolleyes

link FuzzyWuzzy Joined: Jun 1, 2005
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4/12/19 4:43:55 PM 
In reply to InHindsight

Why are you addressing your comments to me? The new president like those before him can fire whom he wants and like the former he is liable to law suits.

link InHindsight Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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4/12/19 4:54:17 PM 
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Why are you addressing your comments to me? The new president like those before him can fire whom he wants and like the former he is liable to law suits.



Because you address comments to me Fuzz:

Recently you got Bajans on your mind. Get over it. Browne is no longer a selector.


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