EDWARD SEAGA-RIP

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link Dukes Joined: Dec 5, 2002
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5/11/19, 3:22:42 AM 
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Former Jamaican Prime Minister Edward Seaga has died.

May he Rest in Peace


FAKE NEWS

IGNORE

link mikesiva Joined: Jan 11, 2007
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5/11/19, 4:55:12 AM 
In reply to Dukes

Link?

I'm cautious about news like this until I get verification, because of previous "news" that Elaine Thompson had drowned in Canada...a country she'd never visited!

link Dukes Joined: Dec 5, 2002
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5/11/19, 5:37:22 AM 
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U R correct.I saw it on FB,posted by my friend in JA who is a highly respected person (National Honors Recipient) but it now appears to be fake.

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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5/11/19, 5:44:16 AM 
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In reply to Dukes

Peace is not a word associated with dis monster.

link Ewart Joined: Mar 4, 2005
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5/11/19, 6:10:49 AM 
In reply to Chrissy

Just stop and think for a while of how peaceful it could have been --- if Hugh Shearer had been allowed to remain Prime Minister for the duration of the seventies!



And remember who organised him out!

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link Chrissy Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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5/11/19, 6:18:02 AM 
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In reply to Ewart

Bro from he didn't want to invite Norman to the Opening of Norman's stadium, the writing was on the wall.
That said Shearer was the one who banned books on black power. Heard he even banned Black Beauty lol

link Ewart Joined: Mar 4, 2005
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5/11/19, 7:11:57 AM 
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HaHaHa... Yes, don't know about Black Beauty but I know only too well of Shearer's banning spree including his banning of popular records (Lord Deliver Us, Dem Haffi Get a Beating, Better Must Come, etc).

But Shearer did not hand out guns to his followers. He is not responsible for the almost 70 years of mayhem, bloodshed and terror that has bedevilled the country for three generations.

Bustamante wore two pearl-handled revolvers. And he faced trial for shooting a man dead in front of the asylum when he led a mob of foreshoremen to quash an NWU presence. But Bustamante did not hand out guns.

Norman Manley who fought in the World War I never handed out guns to his followers, and vigorously and repeatedly denounced violence even among his own people.

No one has ever said Michael Manley handed out guns.

PJ Patterson swore off thuggery and violence.

At least Bruce Golding admitted he had been associated with gunmen.



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link jacksprat Joined: Dec 17, 2002
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5/11/19, 7:36:18 AM 
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I always say death has a way of cloaking people with virtues they never had in life

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 25, 2007
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5/11/19, 8:09:59 AM 

Ok, my good memory of Blinds...

During 79 - 80 lead up to the 80 election, I saw Blinds at a gas station on Constant Spring road with his Buick (or some other like American car) taking gas. I was surprised to see someone of his stature not only driving himself but doing something as lowly as getting his tank filled.

Did I mention that there was no bodyguard?

link JahJah Joined: Dec 5, 2003
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5/11/19, 10:21:32 AM 
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Monster much like the one who had a child named Stompie murdered? Same Stompie murderer allyuh was fawning over? Do tell.

link JayMor Joined: Dec 14, 2002
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5/11/19, 11:10:56 AM 
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I know nothing about Stompie, but likely Stompie would not have been murdered if Blinds (and the BITU wharf controllers) didn't initiate the illegal importation of guns.

--Æ.

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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5/11/19, 11:42:11 AM 
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In reply to Ewart

True true

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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5/11/19, 11:44:56 AM 
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In reply to JayMor

Bro my favourite cousin was murdered - there will be no quarter given fi is one. We are still paying for his deeds and all the revisionism in di Sunday Gleaner won't change di facts.

link jacksprat Joined: Dec 17, 2002
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5/11/19, 11:47:22 AM 
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I know nothing about Stompie, but likely Stompie would not have been murdered if Blinds (and the BITU wharf controllers) didn't initiate the illegal importation of guns.
--Æ.

The Stompie issue pertains to a South Africa situation where Winnie Mandela was supposedly implicated.

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Posts in the comments section are very instructive and are an indication of the divisive figure SEAGA, was perceived to be throughout his life.

Seaga was on life support up to late yesterday and remained mentally alert ..the island’s longest-serving member of parliament, is the last surviving member of the framers of the Jamaican Constitution. He served as leader of the Jamaica Labour Party for 31 years and as member of parliament for West Kingston for 43 years – from 1962 until 2005 when he retired.

link JahJah Joined: Dec 5, 2003
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5/11/19, 12:00:19 PM 
In reply to JayMor

Stompie has nothing to do with Jamaica.

As for Blinds, finding a clean Jamaican politician is... well...

As someone who is closely related to former PNP gunmen/enforcers, I'll just sit here and chuckle at the painting of one side as angels. I don't care who 'started' it, plenty participants about.

link XDFIX Joined: Mar 1, 2003
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5/11/19, 12:10:26 PM 
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Amen!

Plenty blame to go around - many politicians both past and present help set Jamaica at least 20 years back! Jamaica should be ahead of Singapore at this stage of its development!

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 25, 2007
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5/11/19, 12:41:08 PM 
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As for Blinds, finding a clean Jamaican politician is... well...

The issue (or the claim) is that Blinds started it leading up to the 67 election, and then repeated the process leading up to the 80 election when he then partnered with foreign forces.

I worked on the waterfront up to April, 1980 and bore witness to lots of 'activities'. Also got my ears filled with hearsay.

link Hanover Joined: Apr 15, 2003
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5/11/19, 12:48:17 PM 
There is no divisibility of humanity. The rational human animal enjoys absolute personhood. Personhood is not a form of reductionism. In its least eloquent, but most apposite form, personhood simply is; and even in circumstances where societal stratifications permit the acceptance of the denial of personhood, personhood continues through the ought of its existence: human dignity! As such, it is an attack on human dignity to dump certain human beings near a mud lake, with the intention that they would walk towards the light and get themselves killed (Montego Bay street people dumped near St Elizabeth mud lake), as it is to kill people at Green Bay (Green Bay massacre).

The simple reality: the atrocities of Jamaican leaders live after them; any other form of oratory is a mere convenience of thought!

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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5/11/19, 1:23:21 PM 
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If I were 88 and in poor health, I'd dare my family to put me on life support.

Most interesting is why he sought life support outside of Jamaica (ironically in the and of his birth).

link cricketmad Joined: Mar 2, 2009
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5/11/19, 1:31:48 PM 
In reply to Chrissy

You should know that the moneyed class in Jamaica think that the medical institutions in America can perform miracles.

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 25, 2007
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5/11/19, 1:47:11 PM 
In reply to Hanover

...As such, it is an attack on human dignity to dump certain human beings near a mud lake, with the intention that they would walk towards the light and get themselves killed (Montego Bay street people dumped near St Elizabeth mud lake), as it is to kill people at Green Bay (Green Bay massacre).

Although I recall the two incidents, I don't recall the leaders who were responsible.

I'll stick my neck out though and say that unlike the activities attributed to Blinds, we're not seeing residual effects of those two atrocities.

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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5/11/19, 1:47:50 PM 
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In reply to cricketmad

Yuh think he's visualizing di former governor of BOJ - di $30M loan man - his medical option was suicide. wink

link nitro Joined: Apr 9, 2003
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5/11/19, 3:09:12 PM 
An evil man to Comrades a savior to Laborites. With the help of Uncle Sam saved Jamaica from total economic destruction. To Jamaicans who were around in the 70s what is happening today in Cuba is a huge reminder of what that country faced.

link cricketmad Joined: Mar 2, 2009
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5/11/19, 4:29:34 PM 
In reply to nitro

You mean with the help of Uncle Sam he sabotaged Michael Manley's government.

link nitro Joined: Apr 9, 2003
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5/11/19, 4:33:19 PM 
In reply to cricketmad

I have heard that, but seen no proof.

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