Only thing that has changed with the team. Fire floyd before the india series
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We weren't facing so many ?s when Pybus was here
2019-05-23 16:23:48
2019-05-23 16:30:44
In reply to Jumpstart
Oh boy ... the worship of the white man continues. Tricky Dick has a track record of failure. He just happened to be in the right place at the right time. We always play England tough at home boss. WI have won 2 of the last 3 test tours to the Caribbean. The ODIs against England was a marked improvement, but subtract Chris Gayle from that ODI team and the results would have been much different. When was the last time Gayle played an ODI again? And of course we lost the T20 series against England.
2019-05-23 17:03:30
In reply to Walco
We must always find someone to blame...so it's Floyd's turn...again
2019-05-23 17:11:47
In reply to Walco
hoss if the white man doing better than a noted WI failure(whose competence i had questioned previously).....then prepare my libations, offerings and prayers
2019-05-23 17:18:04
In reply to Jumpstart
Doing better? Did you even read my post? Why don’t you check his record coaching other teams before the West Indies? And while you are at it, ask yourself why this genius Englishman has never had a job in the English set up with the senior team.
2019-05-23 17:18:05
In reply to Jumpstart
Doing better? Did you even read my post? Why don’t you check his record coaching other teams before the West Indies? And while you are at it, ask yourself why this genius Englishman has never had a job in the English set up with the senior team.
2019-05-23 17:18:24
In reply to Walco
Our fans are generally straightforward in their determinations
WI #8 ranking beats England # 3 ranking in test series. Coach & Captain = good
Wi #8 ranking ties with England #1 ranking in ODI. Coach and Captain = good
WI #7 ranking gets swept against England # 3 ranking in T20’s. Coach and Captain still good. It’s just T20 lickit cricket.
Little consideration taken about historical results against England in the Caribbean
That the series Was in the Caribbean and the World Cup is in England
The historical records of Coach and Captain
Etc etc
2019-05-23 17:35:18
2019-05-23 17:35:47
In reply to Walco
Walco(aka Julius Malema)......apartheid done. Not every white man is your enemy(since 1994 officially). If we are going solely based on stats, then that job belongs to Phil Simmons, probably one of the two best coaches in the world right now. But de big idiot got rid of him and at the end of his tenure, pybus was in the post, with a series win vs top 5 opposition and a drawn series vs the #1 odi team. To fire him was insanity. To replace him with one of the worst players to ever done maroon is hubris
That side's only problem is a decent offie, but all the players were performing before floyd came around. Swear some of these failures does be relying on a WICB income post retirement so they always apply for positions they're clearly not suited or qualified for( browne, reifer, eldine baptiste,stuart williams, etc) gosh, those guys have done almost irreparable damage to the WI brand.....go off into the sunset
2019-05-23 17:56:43
In reply to Jumpstart
What nonsense? Phil was a fringe player too? So was logie. So if being a poor player makes you a poor coach what made Phil great?
2019-05-23 18:02:15
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
Phil Simmons was an explosive Trinidadian allrounder whose Test record does him no sort of justice. His one Test hundred came against tough opposition at Melbourne in 1992-93, but he made just four other fifties from his 26 starts, most of them as opener. His finest achievement was probably taking Leicestershire to the County Championship with a towering season in 1996, when he collected 1244 runs and 56 wickets - and 35 catches, most of which landed in his bucket-sized hands at slip. Usually a medium-pacer, Simmons bowled quickly that year, reportedly outpacing Devon Malcolm on their one meeting. As a youngster on the 1988 West Indian tour of England, Simmons was hit on the head by David Lawrence in fading light at Bristol: his heart stopped and he needed emergency brain surgery before making a full recovery. He went into coaching, landing the poison chalice of looking after Zimbabwe. Inevitably it ended in tears, and he was sacked in August 2005 amid reports that he was too nice to handle the cut and thrust of running an international side. But a new opportunity arose two years later when he was appointed Ireland's head coach after the 2007 World Cup.
Will Luke, May 2007
Will Luke, May 2007
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Sounds quite different from
After a very successful Red Stripe Cup scoring 756 runs, Reifer was given a chance with his first one-day and Test matches against the Sri Lankans on their tour of the West Indies in 1997. However, he did not manage to produce the necessary performances and, despite being given another chance on the West Indies A tour to make his way back into the senior squad, played only two more Tests and one more one-day international. He then moved to Scotland, with a spell as Uddingston's professional, and a place in the Scottish Saltires squad in 2004. Three years later, following some decent domestic matches, he made a dramatic claim - that he was still ready to be chosen for West Indies. And he was, in the most unexpected of circumstances, in 2009, when the original squad to face Bangladesh in Kingstown decided to boycott the Test a day before its start. The board scrambled to organise a replacement side and Reifer found himself leading the second-string squad ten years after he had played his last Test. However, he couldn't script a win in either Test.
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And phil has been a very successful coach.........bringing ireland to test status, winning the wt20 etc......other than win that half dead competition last year, what has floyd done
2019-05-23 18:09:18
In reply to Jumpstart
Fringe is fringe. None is frontier than the other.
Yes Phil did well with Ireland and floyd did well with CCC
2019-05-23 18:16:43
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
u comparing attaining test status to winning a regional odi title? 
2019-05-23 18:25:12
In reply to Jumpstart
How many years it took? 
2019-05-23 18:34:16
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
not longer than any other test side that had to go through the process......10 years......zimbabwe took 11 from their associate date. Probably took longer because sri lanka's intro like bangladesh's was premature and did nothing to ease full member skepticism
2019-05-23 19:01:18
Usually a medium-pacer, Simmons bowled quickly that year, reportedly outpacing Devon Malcolm on their one meeting.
I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around that sentence. Sounds like embellishment to me.
2019-05-23 19:06:18
In reply to Priapus
you weren't there were you
2019-05-23 19:49:53
In reply to Jumpstart
Stop projecting boss. Where did I say that all white men are my enemies? You know nothing about me or my background.
2019-05-23 19:50:56
In reply to FuzzyWuzzy
You forgot Reifer’s win in the T20 series against Bangladesh.
2019-05-23 21:17:30
In reply to Walco
You should be ashamed to mention that
2019-05-23 21:33:41
In reply to Jumpstart
Ok I'll humor you. Mention what?
2019-05-24 00:11:54
In reply to Walco us beating Bangladesh, a team we have not beaten at ODI for a while now.
2019-05-24 01:21:55
In reply to natty_forever
Which explains how bad the team was after gayle and Co were exiled. It's not a feather on your cap to beat Bangladesh because every other team has given them world class hidings. They even lost to Afghanistan
2019-05-24 01:46:11
In reply to natty_forever
So it’s no big deal to beat a team we are basically tied with in T20s in their back yard, but it’s worthy of condemnation to lose to that same team in ODIs on neutral ground? A team that regularly beats us in ODIs regardless of location?
2019-05-24 12:05:57
In reply to Walco
Please forgive some of us. We have lost the ability to think logically.
2019-05-24 12:07:04
In reply to Walco … making trouble. I was just finishing JS' sentence.
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