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Burnt to death in Barbados

 
mikesiva 2019-08-15 09:44:33 

Natalie Crichlow

 
Drapsey 2019-08-15 10:23:24 

In reply to mikesiva

Ashley Best said her aunt suffered 75% burns to her body in the attack in Christchurch on 28 July. She died in hospital on 6 August.

And not a word on this messageboard before now.

I'd bet that if this occurred in T&T, the Sarge would've long reported it.

 
Chrissy 2019-08-15 10:55:31 

In reply to mikesiva

Horrific

 
sudden 2019-08-15 11:00:24 

In reply to mikesiva

whilst i make no comment on whether this should have been posted here, on a point of correctness, how was that deemed burnt to death?

 
Emir 2019-08-15 11:09:35 

In reply to mikesiva

Barbados is a small country as we all know, it won't be hard to hunt down the killer (s) and I reckon they won't have to look very far.

 
JahJah 2019-08-15 11:09:55 

In reply to sudden


whilst i make no comment on whether this should have been posted here


Only Jamaican and Trini murders must be posted here?

 
sudden 2019-08-15 11:24:21 

In reply to JahJah

who gives 2 wukups what you or others report of crime in Ja or TT? I certainly dont

 
nick2020 2019-08-15 11:32:50 

In reply to mikesiva

Sad sad

May the killer be brought to justice.

 
nick2020 2019-08-15 11:34:17 

In reply to sudden

how was that deemed burnt to death?


She was burnt and without any other information to go by she succumbed to her injuries.

 
black 2019-08-15 11:39:17 

Barbados have death penalty?

If they don't, they need to bring it back for this SOB murderer.

 
sudden 2019-08-15 11:41:01 

In reply to nick2020

correct she later succumbed to her injuries.

burnt to death suggests that she was died in the house fire as a result of being burnt

 
black 2019-08-15 11:54:50 

This is not rocket science, if that SOB didn't burn her, she would still be alive.

And by the way, in America the charges would be upgraded to murder as soon as that person dies.

 
nick2020 2019-08-15 12:08:04 

In reply to sudden

I agree with black on this one.

 
nick2020 2019-08-15 12:14:17 

In reply to black

Barbados has the death penalty. The method is hanging.
However no one has faced the gallows in a significantly long time.

Things in the political arena get distorted. Bajans bellyache about bringing back the death penalty but it is not gone. Hanging is the problem. People desirous of the death penalty need to push for a procedure that will appease the foreigners who dictate to them what they can and cannot do.

For the record I am against the death penalty.

 
granite 2019-08-15 17:08:48 

In reply to sudden

She died of her injuries,you know what people mean,stop splitting hairs,and it's true,if it happened in TT or Jam it would be on here in a flash.

 
black 2019-08-15 17:16:37 

In reply to nick2020

I am all for the death penalty but only in cases where guilt is 100% certain.

 
Jumpstart 2019-08-15 17:39:36 

In reply to Drapsey

IF. sgtdjones have about three of four threads dedicated to the Caribbean's Somalia aka Trinidad and Tobago

 
pelon 2019-08-15 17:49:08 

Sick and shocking. Hope they hang the perpetrator.

 
goofballs 2019-08-15 17:54:42 

In reply to sudden

Sad. People don't usually burn people except is a hate crime like in 1960s in Wismar, Buxton, etc. or there was some prior history with the victim and assailant.
Burning=anger, rage. Jealousy? Madness

correct she later succumbed to her injuries.

burnt to death suggests that she was died in the house fire as a result of being burnt


From the little I know, being burnt is also an injury.

You don't have to die on the spot, could be weeks, from burn injuries.

 
pelon 2019-08-15 17:55:45 

Sick and shocking. Hope they hang the perpetrator.

 
sudden 2019-08-15 17:58:26 

to all,

i am well aware of the legality in terms of charges wrt this incident.

all i am saying is that the lede is not strictly true. yes the woman died as a result of her injuries from being burnt but she was not burnt to death (strictly speaking).

fuk- it is that simple

 
goofballs 2019-08-15 18:05:05 

a crowd-funding page in an attempt to raise £8,000 to bring her body home.


FYI.

TRAVEL GUARD used to cover everything including return of body, alive or dead for necessary treatment/actions for about $40. Upto $50K.
Recently they hit me for $75 for a 5 week trip.

I told them don't bother with the remains.

 
goofballs 2019-08-15 18:09:17 

In reply to sudden

Ok DukeSudden.


Ooops!
It is not cricket to get so defensive, or smart like!
lol lol lol lol lol lol

 
black 2019-08-15 18:09:58 

In reply to goofballs

I am assuming that this person also meant to burn the house down, this is usually done to get rid of evidence.

 
sgtdjones 2019-08-15 21:04:48 

In reply to Emir

Barbados is a small country as we all know, it won't be hard to hunt down the killer (s) and I reckon they won't have to look very far.


Bobolee, T&T a small country also...

How many killers do they catch?

twisted

 
sgtdjones 2019-08-15 21:06:28 

In reply to Jumpstart

IF. sgtdjones have about three of four threads dedicated to the Caribbean's Somalia aka Trinidad and Tobago


Just one.....started since bobolee bravos noted
I was not telling the truth and T&T is a Paradise.

rolleyes

 
Star 2019-08-15 22:29:48 

In reply to Emir

Barbados is a small country as we all know, it won't be hard to hunt down the killer (s) and I reckon they won't have to look very far.


Why do people hold the notion that it is easy to solve crime in Barbados since it is a small country?

The "Pele Parris Murder Case" and many more in Barbados are still unsolved to this day.

Montserrat is a very small country and records show there are unsolved murders there.

 
culpepperboy 2019-08-15 23:39:55 

In reply to mikesiva

. Burnt to death in Barbados


fake news!!!

According to commissioner of police says that cc camera footage shows there was no intruder.

Fire started in kitchen where she was cooking. Forensic evidence shows not presence of accelerant on her clothing.

 
nick2020 2019-08-15 23:44:32 

In reply to culpepperboy

Who on earth told that story then?

 
culpepperboy 2019-08-16 00:00:18 

In reply to nick2020

I ain't got a clue

 
culpepperboy 2019-08-16 09:00:52 

. ‘No signs of violence’
POLICE TREAT DEATH OF BRITISH NATIONAL AS UNNATURAL
by Emmanuel Joseph
Commissioner of Police Tyrone Griffith has dismissed reports that British national Natalie Crichlow died at the hands of an intruder when she was seriously burnt during a fire that broke out on July 28 at the Sargeant’s Village, Christ Church home of her brother Ashton Clarke where she was visiting.
“This matter is being treated as an unnatural death and intense investigations are ongoing. At this stage there is nothing to indicate that there was an intruder at such premises,” Griffith told reporters during a post-Cabinet press conference hosted by Prime Minister Mia Mottley and shared by other Ministers at Government Headquarters on Bay Street.
The woman, who was here to take care of her sick brother, succumbed to her burns on August 6.
The British newspaper The Independent reported yesterday that 44-year-old Crichlow was strangled, doused with a flammable substance and set alight while lying in bed.
The paper quoted her relatives as saying that she was visiting family members here in Barbados when she was attacked by an unknown intruder in her room.
But Commissioner Griffith revealed that closed circuit television footage from a nearby house showed that no one had entered the premises prior to the fire.
“Investigations to date have focused on closed circuit television from an adjacent house and this is of a very high quality. Examination of this footage has clearly demonstrated that no one entered those premises for hours prior to the fire taking place,” the top cop insisted.
He also rejected reports that the mother of three died after being strangled and was found while lying in her bed.
“The corrugated fence was fully in tact apart from the sheet that was removed to provide access to the victim. The footage showed that the fire originated in the area of the kitchen and was concentrated there. There were signs of a destroyed saucepan and burnt food. Though one gas bottle was unaffected, the top of the second bottle had melted away.
“About 13:43 hours, the house suddenly went up in flames with the seat of the fire being concentrated in the kitchen area. The fire rapidly engulfed the house and residents and workmen on a nearby house quickly sprang into action to assist. The deceased was found in the yard badly burnt,” the Police Commissioner reported.
He added: “The victim’s clothing was taken away to be examined forensically for any traces of accelerant. The . . . crime officers indicated that there was no smell of accelerant in the house or on the clothing of the victim.”
Griffith also disclosed that investigators have exonerated a former resident of the home amidst speculation he may have had a hand in the death.
“Rumours have been circulating to the effect that a man who once lived at the said house might be involved in the death. This man was identified and interviewed along with the brother of the deceased….and to date, there is nothing to suggest that he had any involvement in this matter. A post mortem was conducted and death was attributed to infections from the burns,” he announced.
Griffith recalled that during the period leading up to the fire, Crichlow was on a video call with a Linda Beaumont, a British health advisor who was supervising her children. Beaumont later stated that Crichlow was in the kitchen preparing meals.
The Commissioner said investigations were continuing including efforts to gather other information regarding the victimology, which is the study of victims of crime and the psychological effect on them of their experience.
At today’s press conference, the Commissioner was asked by a reporter why information regarding the death was not being provided to the media days after the victim had passed.
He said he was not aware that was the case.
At this point, Prime Minister Mottley interjected and declared: “But now that you are aware...”
“Certainly I will speak to the PRO in that regard and make sure that things like that don’t recur,” Griffith responded.
The Prime Minister intervened again and said: “Certainly it is a little more than that. I think that the people want to know that there is a sense of accountability…there is nothing to gain by us holding onto information when the information is immediately available. You have come here this evening to share; and if we have information we ought to share it at the appropriate level. And I think that’s the position of the Government and I hope it is the position of the Royal Barbados Police Force too.”
The Commissioner responded: “It certainly is my position.”
emmanueljoseph@barbadostoday.bb


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methodic 2019-08-16 09:34:41 

In reply to culpepperboy

was the Independent wreckless and careless in their article, if so they should be sued. Where did the claimsof strangulation come from. Is this in the autopsy report; it doesn't seem so.

 
methodic 2019-08-16 09:34:41 

In reply to culpepperboy

was the Independent wreckless and careless in their article, if so they should be sued. Where did the claimsof strangulation come from. Is this in the autopsy report; it doesn't seem so.

 
Gun_Play 2019-08-16 11:37:07 

The police have come forward and said this is indeed a rumour.

That is why it was never in the news.

I hope those of you that were ready to jump on the Bajan authorities are happy. rolleyes

The Bajan government must sue everyone involved in this rumour.

 
JahJah 2019-08-16 12:19:09 

In reply to sudden

who gives 2 wukups what you or others report of crime in Ja or TT? I certainly dont


Lie dat.

Moving along...

 
sgtdjones 2019-08-16 12:57:32 

In reply to JahJah

British mom dies in B’dos: set alight in bed

A BRITISH woman has died in Barbados after being doused with a flammable substance and set alight as she lay in bed. The family of Luton-born Natalie Crichlow said they were “shocked and devastated” by her death.

Crichlow, 44, was visiting family on the island when she was attacked by an unknown intruder on July 28, the UK Guardian reported yesterday. The mother of three, who had survived cancer twice and had had two strokes in the past decade, was on a trip to help look after her disabled brother and was attacked at his home in Christ Church.


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culpepperboy 2019-08-16 13:06:54 

In reply to sgtdjones

Why are you reposting this fake news?

 
Hants 2019-08-16 14:53:46 

" There is no evidence to suggest there was an intruder when British visitor Natalie Crichlow was burnt in a house fire."

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goofballs 2019-08-16 15:54:59 

I knew the brilliant Paul Drakes and Perry Masons on CCC would crack the crime.

Crime solved!
No crime happened!

Was there an appeal for funds somewhere to send the body back home after she was allegedly attacked?

Fires happen easily, especially if she was wearing a sari or any such inflammable clothing.

Still an injury whether from burns, accident, homicide or suicide.

 
mikesiva 2019-08-16 16:15:02 

In reply to culpepperboy

The BBC have also updated their story now

A British woman died due to infection following serious burns suffered in a fire in Barbados, a post-mortem examination has revealed.

Natalie Crichlow, 44, from Colindale, London, was in Barbados to look after her disabled brother.

Her family has said the mother of three was attacked and set alight while in bed.

However, Royal Barbados Police Force said there was no sign of an intruder or flammable liquid on her clothing.

In a statement on Friday, Barbados Police Commissioner Tyrone Griffith said the "seat" of the fire was in the kitchen.

 
sudden 2019-08-16 16:31:10 

In reply to goofballs

hahaha see the lede was wrong so was the story. i dont get paid big buks fuh nuffin yuh know

 
tc1 2019-08-17 15:11:44 

In reply to sudden

Blame your friend Nick for disinfirmation. .

 
Courtesy 2019-08-17 15:19:24 

In reply to sudden

Basic journalism. The story must reflect the lead.

 
nick2020 2019-08-17 16:21:00 

In reply to tc1

Trump is right about the media.

 
sudden 2019-08-17 17:06:58 

In reply to nick2020

the media reported what it had at the time. there was a video going around by the lady saying someone threw a substance on her and then set her alight.

as it turned out the police detained, interviewed and released the man whom i heard was named in the video (i havent seen it).

the issue i had at the time was the lede and the story did not match. the woman was not burnt to death. she was burnt and as a result died of the injuries but you said i was wrong. no biggie. it could have been a technical point

but life has shown me that lil tings lead to big things and the rest of that story you know now.