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The Ashes 5th Test

 
runout 2019-09-12 10:20:11 

How can Warner retain his place in the team and Usman is dropped?

Do they suffer from frenism also?

 
runout 2019-09-12 10:27:56 

And he has the highest average for an Opening batsman in test cricket, whereas Warner has earned himself the title Broad’s Bunny.

 
WICFan 2019-09-12 10:52:46 

In reply to runout

Lack of alternatives, plus they obviously think Warner will come out of this bad spell.

The problem is that mentally, against Broad, he's gone.

Almost identical to Gilchrist during his last Ashes Tour to England, pace bowling, around the wicket, good/fullish length and bide your time.

For whatever reason, Joe Burns wasn't selected. Kurtis Patterson should have been selected as well.

As for Khawaja, I think patience has worn thin.

 
runout 2019-09-12 12:13:03 

In reply to WICFan

Irrespective of Khawaja’s performance in this series, he deserves to be selected ahead of Warner. He is Australia’s version of the binary man.

 
Narper 2019-09-12 12:54:17 

Day 1: 2nd Session

ENG 91/1 (28.0) CRR: 3.25

Rory Burns 42(77)
Root 31(65

 
Narper 2019-09-12 13:12:10 

30.5
Hazlewood to Rory Burns, out Caught by Mitchell Marsh!! Hazlewood provides the breakthrough! Must say it's a soft dismissal in the end. The short ball and it climbed awkwardly at Burns who got into an awkward position to play at it. Tried to shovel it away but the bounce got big on him and eventually ended up popping a dolly to mid-wicket. Marsh accepts it and Australia have broken through. After having done the hard work, Burns will feel disappointed at not cashing in. Credit to Hazlewood though, kept varying the lengths smartly and certainly surprised the southpaw with this lifter.

Rory Burns c Mitchell Marsh b Hazlewood 47(87) [4s-7]

 
Narper 2019-09-12 13:12:58 

Day 1: 2nd Session

ENG 105/2 (32.0) CRR: 3.28

Stokes 1(5)
Root 36(75)

 
mikesiva 2019-09-12 13:56:30 

In reply to runout

I would have preferred to see Khawaja opening the batting instead of Warner.

 
runout 2019-09-12 14:54:25 

In reply to mikesiva

Perhaps Paine wanted to give Warner a shot, so he opted at batting second also just to hide him from a fresh pitch and the new ball?

 
WICFan 2019-09-12 15:13:18 

In reply to runout

They could have played Warner & Khawaja as openers.

 
runout 2019-09-12 15:28:26 

In reply to WICFan

Tough to drop Harris when Warner is failing.

That said, Root has again failed to convert the 50, even after 2 lives.

 
natty_forever 2019-09-12 16:16:48 

"
Paul Duggan : "Only England could turn Mitch Marsh into Wasim Akram!""

Guess they never heard of the West Indies. big grin

 
dclar301 2019-09-12 16:17:06 

This is the weakest England batting team in History. 3 specialist bats (Deny, Burns & Root) and 8 bits and pieces players. Only Root might make a 80's or 90's team as a batsman. One bowler in Broad and all the rest jokers. Australia gave them a game to make the tour look competitive.

 
runout 2019-09-12 16:20:51 

In reply to dclar301

You don't rate Stokes, Bairstow and Butler? And Jofra?

 
dclar301 2019-09-12 17:04:45 

In reply to runout

Bairstow is a keeper not a top 5 batsman, Butler also. Other than the West Indies name a team Butler can make as a specialist bat. Jofra had one good spell in test cricket. Next test he went for almost 100. Stokes is nothing special, not as good as Holder. Remember the 4 sixes.

 
runout 2019-09-12 17:12:23 

In reply to dclar301

Remember Stokes won the test match for the Pommies singlehandedly. His bowling is very potent.

Butler is a dynamic player. Bairstow is a good batsman. I don't think they are bits and pieces.

Plus Jofra has been putting pressure on the Aussies. Not just Broadie.

 
WICFan 2019-09-12 17:18:52 

In reply to runout

I think Foakes is a better keeper than Bairstow.

I'd have Sibley in as opener & either Malan or Pope in the batting lineup as well.

 
WICFan 2019-09-12 17:21:07 

In reply to runout

Might be harsh, but he's the most likely to get dropped if any other opener makes runs in Shield Cricket.

 
Narper 2019-09-12 17:23:03 

Day 1: 3rd Session

ENG 269/8 (80.0) CRR: 3.36

So they will take the new ball, perhaps with a little more intent.

 
runout 2019-09-12 17:23:35 

In reply to WICFan

Sibley is averaging 38 In First Class...Ollie Pope would have had his hands full with this Aussie attack. Bairstow on the other hand is averaging mid-40's in First Class and 36 in tests.

 
Drapsey 2019-09-12 17:50:24 


Interesting thread.

The theme here is that Hingland is not a good team... and most likely the reason we triumphed over them on their last tour of the WI, and not the superb coaching job done by the since discarded Pybus as some alluded (ok, actually claimed).

 
mikesiva 2019-09-12 18:10:23 

In reply to runout

At least Sibley is averaging over 50 this county season. Two other batsmen at the top of the run scoring stats are Balance and Northeast. I think all three should be in the squad for the next Test series.

The Test batting averages for the current top six look like our side!

Denly 24
Burns 29
Root 48
Stokes 35
Bairstow 35
Buttler 33

With those poor stats, these three deserve to at least be given a chance.

Sibley
Balance
Northeast

 
WICFan 2019-09-12 18:40:07 

In reply to runout

Before today Bairstow's had 7 ducks in his last 35 innings with 4 x 50s and 2 X 100s.

Pope was in the squad for the 3rd test so management see something in him.

Denly was promoted to open to protect Jason Roy, the same Jason Roy who got dropped for this test.

Sibley hit a double tonne in CC this season, avg over 50 for the season.

Debuting at home might have been better than debuting on a Kiwi green top or against Rabada & co in South Africa.

 
runout 2019-09-12 19:23:14 

In reply to WICFan

Pope is a very promising player, but I disagree with making him play this series as you already have seasoned players with Ashes experience wo ahs struggled. The cog in the wheel for the Pommies has been Roy who was a flub the entire series, and then forcing Denly to open the batting. Cummins and Hazelwood has been really good.

 
WICFan 2019-09-12 20:45:18 

In reply to runout

If all fit I'd go with this XI:-

Burns
Sibley
Ballance
Root
Stokes
Pope
Foakes
Ali
Archer
Broad
Anderson

 
runout 2019-09-12 20:54:13 

In reply to WICFan

I am sure with the Ashes at stake, the English selectors would have scrutinized their options in picking their best side.

Denly didn't do much wrong. He was pushed into a tough spot. Food for thought....if the Pommies thought as much of Sibley then why not let him open instead of Denley.

I also believe that the spinner Leach has bowled well.

 
runout 2019-09-13 10:55:33 

Warner walking wicket walks. At least this time it is not Broadie.

It is a Goadie! .

 
WICFan 2019-09-13 11:12:49 

In reply to runout

Ignorance would be the answer re. Sibley.

It's took the selectors too long to realise that you can't shoehorn the Test side with LO specialists.

 
runout 2019-09-13 13:23:23 

This guy Labuschagne is a real find for the Aussies. He has a simple, uncomplicated technique, and appears to be mirroring Steve Smith's game.

 
runout 2019-09-13 13:26:07 

Will Smith ton up today?

 
Discourse 2019-09-13 14:28:29 

10th consecutive 'ashes' fifty for Smith, amazing. That is some serious pedigree right there.

 
Bigzinc 2019-09-13 14:28:39 

In reply to runout

another 50 for smith... brought up with a 6

 
che 2019-09-13 14:40:48 

In reply to dclar301

One bowler in Broad and all the rest jokers.


WTF!!dawg Jofra most lethal quick around

 
runout 2019-09-13 14:43:20 

In reply to Bigzinc

Talk about taking a liking for the Brits??? He is taking this liking to a different level.

SS is a borse.

 
mikesiva 2019-09-13 14:52:48 

In reply to WICFan

I like that side. Maybe Rashid for Moeen.

Northeast for 12th man.

The following should stick to limited overs cricket.

Roy
Bairstow
Buttler
Woakes the journeyman

Smith gets his 10th consecutive Ashes 50. He really likes Pommie bowling!
lol

 
mental_case 2019-09-13 14:59:26 

In reply to runout

Why you ask such obvious questions?

 
mental_case 2019-09-13 15:01:21 

In reply to runout

Can't convert his starts though. 40,50's and 60's don't cut it at test level.

 
Tryangle 2019-09-13 15:10:11 

How many more runs Steve Smith needs to set the Ashes record for runs in a series? Has to be well under a hundred by now

 
Bigzinc 2019-09-13 15:24:51 

In reply to Tryangle

160/5

ARcher has 4 and smithy has 66*

 
velo 2019-09-13 15:38:00 

has there been a occasion where one single man has single handedly won a test series for his team with very little contribution from his teamates ?this smith is special indeed andto think he was considered a bowler who could bat early in his career and batted very low this has to be the weakest aussie batting line up i have ever seen in a while

 
runout 2019-09-13 15:57:26 

In reply to mental_case

Early days yet for him. Labuschagne has demonstrated good temperament and has applied himself well to game situ..

 
carl0002 2019-09-13 15:58:03 

In reply to runout
Smith have been stymieing the Pommies all summer. You think they would have figured out a way by now to get the man out under 20.
shock

 
runout 2019-09-13 16:13:18 

In reply to carl0002

Smith is riding a purple patch...and there is no answer for his prolific run from the Pommies. Seems like since they hit him on the head, they woke up the inner self, and the man is on song everytime he takes center stage.

Blame Jofra! lol lol lol

 
runout 2019-09-13 16:20:56 

Smith may re-write the coaching manual for batting.

No exaggerated movement, no complicated batting stance. No extravagant defensive shots. The one thing he does well in amplifying is leaving the balls outside his offstump. Man See ball, man hit ball.

 
Discourse 2019-09-13 16:35:25 

Smith out for 80

 
runout 2019-09-13 16:49:23 

Aussie tail wagging...

 
doosra 2019-09-13 16:57:50 

England squandering precious lead

 
runout 2019-09-13 17:00:14 

Archer 5-fer.

Took out Lyon.

 
trev114 2019-09-13 17:04:48 

6-fer

 
runout 2019-09-13 17:05:39 

In reply to trev114

Congrats Joffra!!!

 
WICFan 2019-09-13 17:30:15 

In reply to velo

Imagine if he'd played in the 3rd test, he could have been in with a chance of getting 1,000 runs for the series.

 
Narper 2019-09-14 13:26:54 

Day 3: 2nd Session

ENG 116/2 (42.1) CRR: 2.75

England lead by 185 runs

 
Oilah 2019-09-14 17:13:12 

Slippery fingers Smith holds onto a beauty smile

 
jcveletta 2019-09-15 04:12:59 

In reply to runout

Usie should have been in the first XI. I cann't understand his omission.

 
NineMiles 2019-09-15 10:35:54 

Interesting day ahead but I hope Eng don’t skittle the Aussies all out today.

Would be nice to be there on the last day to watch Jofra take the last wicket. wink

 
runout 2019-09-15 12:22:15 

In reply to jcveletta

Case in point. Warner comes, broad bowls, Warner walks back to the pavilion.

Must be frenism.

 
Drapsey 2019-09-15 17:36:28 


So MOM Archer has the map of Barbados tattooed to his face.

How comes some peeps claim that he abandoned his heritage?