...the transcript he has ordered to be released throws light on the whistleblower's complaint?
The complaint has not been made public. I need to hear the complaint. What was it that alarmed the whistleblower?
The Donald throws a bone...who is biting?
He thinks everyone is as dummb as he is.
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Vaj, Licktrumpballs and Nitro don't need to bite. They just swallow. So there is absolutely no reason for them to appear on this thread. Please don't.
In reply to Courtesy
Its hard to resist. Many, many efforts will be made to get rid of the Dotard but the Almighty use people, bad and good, for his purpose.
Nominating conservative judges to federal courts and to the supreme court; by tacitly supporting abortion bans; by supporting Christian universities and organizations that profess a moral objection to same-sex marriage or contraception; by supporting religious dispensations from anti-discrimination laws; by moving the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
More to come
In reply to nitro
Welcome to the United States of Iran.
Question by the reporter at the end which was not answered (Pelosi took no questions.)
Question: What does this accomplish if the Senate does not commit?
My answer: Let the public judge them.
Nancy trying to hard to hold tight to Speaker seat like her facelift stitches.
In reply to maj the vaj
Nancy's face is fcuking Cleopatra's next to your fat ugly mug.
Trump true to form has offered the release of the transcript.
There is lil' value in a transcript on its own. A voice recording is the way to go plus the whistle blower's complaint.
This must also be put in the context that Trump when ask whether he would accept dirt from a foreign government on his opponent earlier this year... he answered in the affirmative.
In reply to Courtesy
exactly
In reply to Runs
Trump in typical fashion is attempting to snake his way out of this. Same Trump script different day.
Most American reporters are lazy. I just can't see Trump surviving with all he has done if it were in the UK.
In reply to maj
Here we go again.
Democrats are like West Indian cricket supporters. They live in permanent hope only to suffer horrible losses when it matters most.
Breaking News: The NYT is reporting that the White House has dropped its objection to the whistleblower testifying before Congress.
All that is outstanding now is a voice recording of Trump's call to the Ukrainian President.
In reply to Courtesy
I wonder why the about turn
In reply to Runs
The Whistleblower Act is peloscidly clear. Not everyone wants to go to jail for Trump for violating it.
I expect the Ag DNI to pass on the complaint to Congress shortly.
In reply to Courtesy
Moscow Mitch will not allow the Impeachment in the Senate
AG Barr will say you can't impeach the President on such evidence.
Donnie lives to fight another day
What a Country
In reply to sgtdjones
What happens in the Senate by way of impeachment, should not be of concern to the Democrats. Let the facts unfold and let the American electorate decide. The Democrats would have fulfilled their constitutional duty.
Reminder: Coming from this White House, neither transcripts nor weather maps can be trusted.
- Preet Bharara
In reply to Runs
The White House will be committing political suicide if they doctor the transcripts. The whistleblower's complaint has already been leaked. It has just not been made public.
In reply to Courtesy
Exactly
Let the Senate answer for their own actions.
Witholding Federal Funds is a popular tactic by the unscrupulous one
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In reply to black
I have no respect for politicians who put their own interest before that of the country.
Just do the right thing.
In reply to nitro
Rinse and repeat retards, they haven't figured out that DT is toying with them.
Playing possum, these pseudo intellectuals keep falling for the trap.
DT keeps flashing the fools gold.
In reply to maj
Maybe you need a lesson on the constitution, when impeachment starts, the toying stops.
We must remember that Nancy held a news Conference,
She announced that an inquiry will commence.
Only after the House has an opportunity to vote on
Impeachment and have the votes in the house of Congress,
can impeachment start.
Dems made a critical error by not waiting for tomorrow
document releases, and seeing what is the smoking gun
to proceed.
Trump has an ace up his sleeve, a press conference with the President of Ukraine, tomorrow afternoon.
A bad decision Dems....Donnie outsmarted Dems.
In reply to sgtdjones
Only after the House has an opportunity to vote on
Impeachment and have the votes in the house of Congress,
can impeachment start.
Huh? You need to educate yourself on the process and what todays implication means.
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In reply to Runs
NO, what I stated is factual
Only after the Congress takes a vote and it has the majority, can Impeachment begin. It cannot begin before.
If they cannot get the votes to pass in the House ;its dead and a waste of time.
The Dems can have all the Impeachment inquiry they want in the interim. Nancy had a press conference today with the announcement.
In reply to sgtdjones
Congress totally controls this process, it's in the constitution. As a matter of fact, Congress can also change the way DOJ operates.
There's a difference between power and authority, in this instance, DOJ does not have the authority.
Congress is bicameral and both Houses operate independently. Either body can initiate formal impeachment proceedings. However, both bodies must pass the impeachment.
The House impeaches and the Senate convicts or not.
In reply to Courtesy
In this instance, the House initiates impeachment proceedings.
In reply to black
Correk.
In reply to black
This is a President who has shown how to avoid the Constitution by the following, for an Orange moron he has the Dems in Control.
Control of executive power
Control of the Senate
Control of the DOJ
Control of the Supreme Court (5-4)
The House can pass anything, if Moscow Mitch
decides not to bring it to the Senate its dead.
Congress can make amendments to change the DOJ
it must have Senate approval and be signed by the President.
In reply to sgtdjones
document releases, and seeing what is the smoking gun
to proceed.
I beg to differ. No need to wait for a smoking gun when Donnie keeps admitting to what he is denying.
Apart from this there are several other impeachable offenses that can/may/will be pursued in this impeachment procedure.
1. Obstructing justice
2. Profiting from the Presidency
3. Collusion
4. Advocating political and police violence
5. Abuse of power
6. Engaging in reckless conduct
7. Persecuting political opponents.
8. Attacking the free press
9. Violating immigrants' right to due process
10.Violating campaign finance laws.
In reply to sgtdjones
Control of the DOJ
Control of the Supreme Court (5-4)
Don t mistake favorable rulings as control, when placed under oath, DOJ and Senate personnels will look out for themselves.
These guys don't have personal loyalty to Trump, they are merely acting in the party's interests. In fact, many of them don't personally like him.
decides not to bring it to the Senate its dead.
Congress can make amendments to change the DOJ
it must have Senate approval and be signed by the President
Again, what the Senate does is their problem, it does not stop the House from carrying out its constitutional duties.
In reply to black
The House can pass anything it wishes....then it must be sent to the Senate . Moscow Mitch can refuse to bring such to the Senate . Its now all dead . Time wasted.
Officially, there are no transcripts of these types of calls. They are listened to by others in the administration and they take "some" notes, but do not write everything down. The only thing we will see is what they want us to see and nothing more! Trump already admitted on the record what he did... Waiting to release the so called transcripts gives them time to write or "rewrite" whatever they want, remember that.
In reply to sgtdjones
Politically damaging my friend, let it all play out, the wrongdoing, do not jump to conclusions.
In reply to stddjones
are you saying that Mitch can refuse to bring to the senate floor a formal impeachment matter floor from the House?
In reply to Hellraiser
I agree the Orange Moron violated laws that can result in Impeachment.
But , but even if the House has enough votes to declare
the Orange Moron is impeachable , its up to the Senate to decide if he is guilty or not.
Moscow Mitch may not get this to pass in the Senate. His Republicans will not impeach the Orange Moron.
A waste of time , the Orange Moron has 33% of votes as his base, it will propel him to another term. Sadly.
In reply to sudden
He fails to look at the potential political fallout if the Dems impeach with overwhelming evidence.
Has to look at the issue objectively, pros and cons.
In reply to Runs
like Trump he doesnt know what he is talking about. he just intimated that Mitch can refuse to bring a formal impeachment matter before the senate.
now back pedalling to say the repubs in Senate would vote against
next post will contradict all that
In reply to sgtdjones
The House can pass anything it wishes....then it must be sent to the Senate . Moscow Mitch can refuse to bring such to the Senate . Its now all dead . Time wasted
Time is not wasted, the House must convince the American people that Trump us unfit for office and that is going to have an impact on the election.
In reply to sudden
It depends on the evidence that the House comes up with
and submits it to the Senate. It has to be sufficient to impeach, then it's up top the Senators when they vote , Yes or NO.
Look at how many bills Moscow Mitch has refused to bring to the Senate knowing it would fail.
In reply to black
The Orange Moron has been unfit to be President since he walked down the escalators in NY City.
Now, isn't it strange he got over 60 million votes?
His opponent got approx 3 million more votes.
The College decided the President. Orange Moron wins.What a crazy system.
This can occur......
2020 election , Orange moron loses.
He refuses to concede
DOJ rules election is invalid.
To the Supreme Court ( Trump 5-4)
What happens next ....Founders never envisioned such.
In reply to stdjones
and submits it to the Senate. It has to be sufficient to impeach, then it's up top the Senators when they vote , Yes or NO.
Look at how many bills Moscow Mitch has refused to bring to the Senate knowing it would fail.
do you really know what impeachment means?
the only way impeachment gets to the senate is if someone impeachable is formally charged by the House.
it then goes to the Senate for the Senate to hear and vote on. in that way the Senate is the Court/jury with certain House members acting as prosecutors and cannot refuse to hear the case . but i maybe wrong hahaha
In reply to sudden
Dimwit, I have stated what you just posted . You claim to be a lawyer?
Can you assimilate after you read. It's obvious you can't.
You are looking at to many mail order brides Catalog from Europe .
In reply to sudden
He is clueless, guess he forgot we have Google these days
In reply to Runs
You claim the above yet you were wrong.
and submits it to the Senate. It has to be sufficient to impeach, then it's up top the Senators when they vote , Yes or NO.
Read what I posted its above its facts and I dont google
but will do it in this case to show you are again wrong
The Constitution clearly envisions that if the House impeaches a federal official, the next step is for the Senate to hold a trial. But there is no obvious enforcement mechanism if Senator Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky and the majority leader, were to simply refuse to convene one just as he refused to permit a confirmation hearing and vote on Mr. Obamas nominee, Judge Merrick Garland, to fill a Supreme Court vacancy in 2016..
You and the wannabe lawyer are wrong.
In reply to Courtesy
Pressure delivers
In reply to Runs
This is getting interesting by the minute.
The whistleblower's complaint will be sent to Congress this afternoon.
This matter is crystal clear to me: In his conversation with the Ukrainian Prez Trump was asking for reciprocity and that reciprocity meant investigating his political opponent.
Now the "goodly men and women" in Congress must consider whether their oath of office is to uphold the constitution or the President.
It is as simple as this.
Democrats should have no worry about what happens in the Senate. Fulfilling their constitutional duty is the only thing which should matter.
Whistleblower's complaint has been delivered to Congress.
Rep Swalwell has seen the whistleblower's complaint.
He says the DNI has advised that they cannot speak to the details but he says "what it relates to is credible, serious and urgent and the DNI should release the whistleblower to speak to us."
BREAKING on MSNBC: GOP Senator Says Abject Terror Is the Only Thing Keeping Republican Senators From Voting to Convict An Impeached Trump.
Him say if this was done by secret ballot 30 Senators would vote to impeach Trump.
Courtesy says: They need to grow a pair of balls.
Adam Schiff: "The complaint was well written and certainly provides information for the Committee to follow up with other witnesses and documents...what this courageous individual has done is to expose serious wrongdoing..."
Film at 11.
Breaking news: Majority of the House now backs formal impeachment(219).
In reply to Courtesy
Thoughts and prayers
Tremors are being felt on the Republican ground:
Romney says it's "troubling in the extreme."
Toomey says it's "inappropriate."
Sasse, "it's really troubling."
In reply to Courtesy
Of what?
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In reply to nick2020
I am not qualified to give you an answer. Perhaps you can seek the services of Vag, Sucktrumpballs and Nitro.
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On a serious note, there is a abject fear of being primaried.
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