Why I am a Hindu

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link Dan_De_Lyan Joined: Jun 2, 2008
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11/7/19, 6:07:32 PM 
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"There are simply no binding requirements to being a Hindu. Not even a belief in God."

A three-minute reading from #whyIAmAHindu that conveys something of the flavour of the book that is soon to be a web series:

link maj Joined: Mar 7, 2017
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11/7/19, 6:35:02 PM 
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Yep. big grin

link Dan_De_Lyan Joined: Jun 2, 2008
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11/7/19, 6:37:56 PM 
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Life time warranty! Reincarnation!

Just like snapon tools. you break it and it get replaced.

Not burning in hell

link maj Joined: Mar 7, 2017
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11/7/19, 6:40:56 PM 
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LOL..

but i was under the impression the goal was to stop reincarnation and achieve moksha.

as for myself im doomed to be always reincarnating..
big grin

link Dan_De_Lyan Joined: Jun 2, 2008
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11/7/19, 6:46:33 PM 
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keep doing most good with a little bad to prevent that moksha...

like saying "I will marry you" True true

link maj Joined: Mar 7, 2017
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11/7/19, 6:50:16 PM 
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to be safe im skewing towards an 80/20 split big grin

link doosra Joined: May 25, 2004
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11/7/19, 7:00:55 PM 
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No requirement you say?

The Brahmins may not agree big grin

link Dan_De_Lyan Joined: Jun 2, 2008
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11/7/19, 7:05:48 PM 
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Brahmins


The cow?

link maj Joined: Mar 7, 2017
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11/7/19, 7:18:42 PM 
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Brahmins


Elitist Hindus..lol.

link DAVE400 Joined: May 27, 2004
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11/7/19, 7:47:56 PM 
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Say it louder...Chrissy didn't hear you.

Brown noser... oxymoron intended.

link doosra Joined: May 25, 2004
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11/7/19, 8:38:31 PM 
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you trying too hard to sound smart

cheeks and sudden soon come to send you back in your rat hole

link goofballs Joined: May 7, 2007
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11/7/19, 9:55:01 PM 
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The Brahmins may not agree


Please to elaborate.

link doosra Joined: May 25, 2004
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11/7/19, 10:33:25 PM 
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There are simply no binding requirements to being a Hindu


that being a hindu, according to the highest caste, means the acknowledgement of an order
(according to the highest caste), or not be in that order at all...

an order/class implies requirements, whether you think those requirements are fair or not

and to be a brahmin means a load of requirements...some inherited, some practices, some from teachings, etc

link goofballs Joined: May 7, 2007
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11/8/19, 1:20:50 AM 
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I don't know much but wasn't that historic social division by the Aryans and further enforced by the British for law and order? It is practically being done away with and considered a crime in India. Quota system is in place to help the underprivileged. 72% reserved/quota.

I think if one studies the religion, he would have to agree:
There are simply no binding requirements to being a Hindu

As simple as:
patram puspam phalam toyam
yo me bhaktya prayacchati......


My favorite quote to the people, especially pandits who do elaborate rituals
Krishna says If one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, fruit, water, I will accept it.
He also says, worship me in whatever way or culture you are accustomed to (Christianity, Islam, whatever) as all roads do lead to Me.No exclusiveness!!

There are rituals, yes, but we don't have to do squat. The main role of Brahmins was to study and do the specialized rituals like sanskaars, being pujaris or purohits. Otherwise anyone can do their prayers at home, if they so choose.

You can be a Hindu, or achieve the ultimate, by just doing good deeds, or sewa, selfless work without expectation of reward in any culture by anyone in whatever part of the world. Karmayoga.
Of course Bhakti yoga dong devotion, rituals, etc.
Janana yoga....intellect, wisdom, philosophy eg Socrates!
Raja yoga...personal insight/enlightenment.

Even without saying or thinking you are a Hindu, you are based on so many generalized features. All encompassing.
The scope is limitless; no fixed,rigid requirements.

I think the speaker was along this line of thinking.
Juss rambling here.
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link Norm Joined: Nov 27, 2002
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11/8/19, 3:49:21 AM 
A religion that doesn't guarantee a spot in Heaven for its faithful can't be worth much. Another cheap Indian product? smile smile

link DAVE400 Joined: May 27, 2004
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11/8/19, 5:13:55 AM 
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Great post...

Lost on a poor soul seeking material validation...

link DAVE400 Joined: May 27, 2004
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11/8/19, 5:14:38 AM 
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The day I worry about validation here is the day i become you...

link doosra Joined: May 25, 2004
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11/8/19, 5:48:08 AM 
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picking at someone persistently is the sign of someone who is very insecure

now run along and try bullying the other people who put you to your place everytime you try to sound clever here

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11/8/19, 5:50:58 AM 
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material validation you say?

was it not you posting pic of how good you look and talking how successful you are

you are too bitter, get over yourself

link doosra Joined: May 25, 2004
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11/8/19, 6:21:46 AM 
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The cow?


Actually, i wasn't thinking that at all...is it a requirement?

i know growing up the hindus around my home circle and about the place were not supposed to eat beef

but is that a requirement? i am not sure

link DAVE400 Joined: May 27, 2004
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11/8/19, 6:35:43 AM 
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There is no sin in Hinduism...just karma

So abstinence from beef is done out of respect for something accepted as sacred...rather than a dogmatic fear of punishment

link DAVE400 Joined: May 27, 2004
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11/8/19, 6:37:47 AM 
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Fui...I was not seeking validation...just trying to inspire the other quadrigen aged posters..

link doosra Joined: May 25, 2004
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11/8/19, 6:40:08 AM 
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thanks for your response...

There are rituals, yes, but we don't have to do squat.


just to clarify, that you can just be a hindu without any commitment/ precondition tho there are rituals?

actually that is not what i see as the reality and even your post is pointing to the realities i talked about but only limited to the brahmins...for example in the quote below you suggest what you will do (or is the required thing to do is to not follow what others say? is that a requirement (to not follow or to do as you see fit))

My favorite quote to the people, especially pandits who do elaborate rituals
Krishna says If one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, fruit, water, I will accept it.
He also says, worship me in whatever way or culture you are accustomed to (Christianity, Islam, whatever) as all roads do lead to Me.No exclusiveness!!


You can be a Hindu, or achieve the ultimate, by just doing good deeds,


you seem to suggest that to "be" means to do (in this case "good deeds")...which is it? you can be without doing or you can be by doing? or both...i suppose what i am getting from you is both?

just to reiterate, my first post in this thread was about the order associated with the caste system and brahmins...i maintain my view that thru the eyes and the minds and actions of brahmins, one of the condition (or requirement) is that one has to accept being in some order...of course you can choose to or not to...but it doesn't change that reality

link doosra Joined: May 25, 2004
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11/8/19, 6:41:28 AM 
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so let me be clear, you can say and do what you want and then decide if u are or are not seeking validation...i agree with that...i cannot read your mind

but on the other hand, you can be sure that someone else is seeking validation?

link doosra Joined: May 25, 2004
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11/8/19, 6:44:01 AM 
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There is no sin in Hinduism...just karma


i still struggle to understand the practical difference between the two things if there is indeed a difference

sin - punishment for ills

karma - punishment for ills

So abstinence from beef is done out of respect for something accepted as sacred...rather than a dogmatic fear of punishment


that is not inconsistent with my own comment (that i never interpreted the not eating beef as a requirement) but the reality on the ground, Dave, is that in some places, if one eats beef one is caste out and even punished...maybe that's just ignorance

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