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Caribbean fruit - Golden Aople aka June Plum
the correct name is - pommecythere http://wiwords.com/word/pommecythere
In reply to problemjay
Ah meet a Jamaican when I was in New York last year and she ask me if I want June plum juice. I had no idea wha she talking about. I know about pommecythere
In reply to Chrissy
Man you make me remember some nice golden apple deh
While most people around here eat them green with pepper and salt, I was lucky to encounter a giant tree with equally giant fruits, the ripe ones would fall to the ground... the taste was like the sweetest mango with a texture of apples an unparalleled combination
best ting to do with dat is make chow! Link Text
In reply to problemjay
That's the French for it. Nuh matter it's a lovely fruit
In reply to TriniStar
Actually I cut up medium ripe ones and put it in salads - delish! Makes a nice salad dressing as well.
Love di chow and it's nice in curries as well
In reply to steveo
My life is littered with glorious memories of golden apples. St Roses had two trees close to di convent so I have to thank di nuns for my great throwing arm. Lawks we used to pelt dem trees to get the fruit.
I got a nice dozen yesterday of ripe ones - sweet and sour in one.
Been eating a lot of them recently because I had family visiting in November and December. One hadn't eaten one in 50 years and went to town on dem.
In reply to Chrissy
Sure the fruits we Trinis call Chennet and Pomerac the rest of Caribbean have different names. Just shows are not as similar as some think
In reply to TriniStar
some of dem islands use the word 'pear' to describe zaboca/avocado so ah wonder what they would call an actual pear
In reply to TriniStar
guinep in Guyana and JA
It's good for you as well
In reply to TriniStar
Got a bag of pomerac yesterday too - dem small but dem sweet too bad - we call them Otaheite apples in Jamaica - make a wicked pie.
In reply to Chrissy
the name may be French but the way Trinis pronounce the word is far from French
In reply to problemjay
That's true for many words across our region - French creole is a whole new language
In reply to Chrissy
Where I'm from, skinip was just a nickname for guineps.
In reply to black
Funny thing - they seem to bear for much longer these days. I saw some a week before Christmas - very unusual.
In reply to Chrissy
Which ones you like?
You like the sweet, thin skin ones that melt in your mouth or the thick skin, slightly tart and meaty ones?
I like both but prefer the thick skinned ones.
In reply to black
Same here although I love which ever one is in season
In reply to Chrissy
Lovely fruit, either green (with some salt and pepper) or ripe. Makes a very nice fruit drink too, and grows well in Guyana. It is probably native to those parts.
I wonder if anyone has put together a comprehensive catalog of these fruits, as they do in more developed countries. There does not seem to be a big, or coordinated, effort to develop and market local fruits.
I remember Guyana gaining a market in Europe for preserved local fruits, including common and plentiful fruits like dunks and five finger (carambola), but that seems to have been lost a long time ago.
We see agriculture being used as a political weapon in Guyana too, with very little effort being made to sustain self sufficiency even in major products like rice and sugar.
Heaven only knows what will the fate of lesser commercialized agricultural products such as golden apple. Word has it that fruit trees are generally becoming harder and harder to find in heavily populated parts of Guyana.
In reply to Norm
Excellent post
T&T and JA have done way more to commercialize agricultural products - I remember buying several local fruit based juices and drinks in T&T way back in the early 70s.
Here in JA the Rastas in particular and others have produced several juices from local fruit. The planter class dominate the industry but we know where to find the real juices and many folks make their own drinks from local fruit.
I am not up to date on Guyana and juices from local fruit.
In reply to Norm
What is the real name for dunks (downs?)
In reply to black
Yes Guyana did produce preserved five finger - five finger makes a lovely drink.
Do you know what they call dunks in JA?
The C word plum. Mona campus is full of trees and more than a few are on the Mona reservoir.
In reply to black
Technically, it is ziziphus mauritania. It might have been brought to the Caribbean during the slave trade, or later.
It occurs in many parts of the world, but the variety in Guyana is the largest, most solid and tastiest, as far as I know. The fruit tends to be dry and spongy in many other countries.
In reply to problemjay
pomseetay
Creole name for it.
Someone prolly thought it was an english word and spelt it that way.
Thats how we call it back home.
In reply to Norm
First the sorrell now this?



What other Islands you tried?
In reply to Ayenmol
How you doing, bro?
I was talking about dunks only. I always try dunks wherever I go - in the Caribbean, and elsewhere, because I love Guyana dunks. I have never found it to be as good as the dunks in Guyana.
Dunks fruits could get really big in Guyana - about an inch and a half long and an inch across, with a flavor like a delicious apple. As kids, we loved eating dunks while doing anything - playing cricket or soccer, just exploring the backlands, etc.
We would always fill our pockets with dunks before taking off. It kept us hydrated and warded off hunger until we finally got back home. The trees almost always had plenty of fruits and they were not hard to reach.
The trees grew everywhere, including in public places like school yards and farm roads (called "dams" in Guyana), but they especially loved growing by the outhouse.
A common, but very valuable, fruit.
In reply to Ayenmol
Seems like the correct name is spondias dulcis.
Seems like it has a different name in every country!
In reply to Norm
Well...that is to be expected in the Region.
At the end of the day, correct is what you call it.
What is dissappointing are those from the region who hear a name, know the name is not native to them...but put it on the web with some spelling that just cofuses people.
Pommercythere? Where on earth did that come from?
In reply to Norm
What I have noticed is that the bigger the trees, the bigger the dunks. I had a friend who lived on Kings Way and there was a tree in that yard with some huge very tasty dunks. There are some big ones on the Mona campus but those on Mona Reservoir are the same size as those in our Queenstown, GT, Guyana backyard.
In reply to Ayenmol
French patios, no doubt. "Pomme" + something else. Evrything is a "pomme" for French speakers. Pomegranate? OK. Pomme de terre? Gimme a break!
In reply to Chrissy
Looks like the tree readily converts a plentiful supply of water into bigger and firmer fruits.
In reply to Norm
Yeah...like every tree.
A tree planted by streams of water.
Be reasonable about rushing to claim yours is better.
In reply to Chrissy was in Ja last week and try to bring back a few but the customs inspector would not let me!
In reply to problemjay
Wrong again, problemguy.
The scientific name of the Jamaican June Plum is Spondias dulcis
Oops, sorry Norm. Looks like you have it covered already.
In reply to Ayenmol
Am neither "rushing" nor "claiming", but simply stating what I have observed.
In reply to Norm
But Norm...how can you 'observe' something that you dont have the data to?
How many Islands pomseetay have you had?
No biggie dude. We all have memories of our neck of the woods...or in the case of Chrissy...continued enjoyment.
I just brought it up because you did the same with the sorrell deal...claiming Guyanese are better because they have real sorrell that others do not.
Relax on the rush to claim Guyana excells in all things Caribbean.
Thats all.
In reply to Ayenmol
ok pommeAyenmol.
In reply to Chrissy
In SVG they are called Golden Apples .
Growing Up in SVG , there was a Tree in
the yard .
One of my brothers made sure that he had one planted in his yard . A couple years ago I stayed at his House and enjoyed eating them and also enjoying the Juice .
In reply to sgtdjones
You know...that is an iteresting deal....pomme in french is apple..
But pomme deterre is irish potato.
So in creole they placed pomme before some items that are green or shaped like apples etc...i think thats where the pommeceetay name grew from.
Pomme cannelle
My sister loved those...i hated them.
So we'd trade...she left the sweet sorp fir me i left the pomme cannelle to her.
In reply to camos
Heheheheh - good try
In reply to POINT
Love dem bro
In reply to Norm
It occurs in many parts of the world, but the variety in Guyana is the largest, most solid and tastiest, as far as I know. The fruit tends to be dry and spongy in many other countries
I think it is related to olives.
In reply to Ayenmol
No sea pendejo!
Go look that up.
In reply to black
The seeds are similar, but the trees are extremely different.
Pommecythere chow! Look it up online
And when you done look up Pomerac chow!
We in Trini love making chow with our fruits
In reply to Norm
I dont have to look it up...i lived in the VI for years....
Nice. ..your colors shining through on a little push back.
In reply to Ayenmol
Forever f*cking judgmental - even over a simple discussion about a fruit.
In reply to Norm
You are dealing with a crazy person.
In reply to Norm
Forever f*cking judgmental - even over a simple discussion about a fruit.[/b]
THIS
My grandmothers neighbor had a huge dunks tree with tasty large fruits, we could not climb it as it was filled with large pointed thorns which we called plimpa. Dunks tree are notorious for having such and one can be pricked rather severely if not careful picking dunks, we used to shy and hit down or take a large bamboo rod.
In reply to Runs
Tell me about dem thorns
In reply to Chrissy
I have walked upon barefeet as a kid and have memories of using needles and sometimes softgrease to remove, extremely painful.
The worst part is to have one prick you and break in the center, soft part of your feet, pain for days.
In reply to Norm
Wow...the same person who kept stating how people cant accept when they wrong and simply move on is going ballistic because i told him he does not have to keep claiming that Guyana has the best fruit when we talk about this on a site with many Islands represented.
That set you off?
At least sm judging what am seeing...you are judging what you do not know.
We spoke about sorrell you claimed Guyana is the only place that have real sorrell and everyone else using hibiscus.....wrong.
Today we talking pommeseetay you here claiming Guyana have the sweetest and everywhere else is just not up to standard....but am judgemental for pointing it out.
Oh well.
In reply to Ayenmol
You plan to start lying now? Where did I say, or even suggest, that everywhere else is not up to standard?
How can you go off on a personal vendetta, totally imaginary at that, when we are all trying to enjoy a topic about a fruit? Is it really that critical that our opinions about this fruit all line up perfectly, North Korea style?
In reply to Norm
but the variety in Guyana is the largest, most solid and tastiest, as far as I know.
First the sorrell now this?
What other Islands you tried?
That set you off.....that is judgemental?
I keep being told i take this place too seriously.....
This....This? ...This!!!
Have you calling me pendejo and f this and that?
I jus laugh.
Shame on you dude.
Moving on.
In reply to Ayenmol
English words, meaning "in my opinion".
If you have a problem with another person's opinion about a fruit ...
And I don't think anyone here appreciates this thread being flooded this way.
In reply to Norm
I askes you which others have you tried....
How can you say yours is the tastiest if you have not tried others?
And if it were just this no biggie...but you did the same on sorrell...you claimed sorrell is only indeginous to Guyana and everyone else uses hibiscus leaf while Guyana has the actual fruit and it tastes different than the other Islands.
Out of respect for you i had to go searching all over the web...i knew you were wrong....but i humbly searched....even when shown you kept at it until others joined and the discussion went on forever....
Now you back at it elevating Guyana above others with no real reason....then when asked a simple question you upset that i dare ask you to qualify your latest generality that is totally off putting.
But am the problem...you allowed that to bring you to cussing me out...but am the problem?
Of course when i called for Chrissy on the sorrell thread she never showed..
But here she is oferring her opinion here ....but am the one taking the place so seriously...you cannot cop to a simple little challenge....since the sorrell incident this is the second time you get all sour over a little challenge to your post.
Pride....simple as that...to prideful to say i was wrong or just let your self serving claim go.
So yoy attacking me instead with the same attacks you used to be against....because of auch a simple thing.
Smh....in two weeks of posting regularly you have gone from sage to surly.
Congrats.
In reply to Ayenmol
I will put this down as an off day for you, but you are not encouraging interaction here.
In reply to Runs
Really dude?
Plimpla stop you from climbing dunks tree?
GT peeps really soft


In reply to Norm
Am i right or wrong...or you to prideful to say...yeah...maybe am to quick to make it about my Country.
The entire Caribbean is filled of fruits and no one Cointry has the best or sweetest anything unless it is the only Island to bear it.
This simple thing have you down in the gutter.
Man...look in the mirror.
If you dont want to discuss because i ask you to check yourself on such a small thing...then dude...all your talk about discussion is invalid.
Again....congrats.
In reply to black
Tell he!
We used to come down the tree with a shirt full of dunks, sit down in a corner and enjoy the dunks, while removing pimpla from we foot, skull, etc! (We used a shirt like a bag up in the tree.)
In reply to black
I have climbed dunks trees, a famous one was at the corner of Young and High Streets during my youth by that cricket ground, Transport? forgot its name across from the Canadian Embassy. This tree I spoke of was in the country, huge and extremely thorny, they were large and hidden also, even walking under that tree with your rubber flip flops was risky.
I fell from a starapple tree once but grabbed onto a lower branch, scraped my entire arm below my elbow, the limbs are notorious for being brittle. In my opinion the tamarind tree/ branches are some of the strongest. We used to play a game called Buniya by my grandpas farm, jumped in trench to fetch stick which was used in the game am sure you know it.
I am from GT but spent all my vacations by my grandparents in the country, can swim, fish, ride donkeys, mind cows, help cut rice on combines etc Had a wonderful youth on my grandparents farm.
In reply to Chrissy
Green or ripe, golden apple is great..but a ripe sweet one is a treat.
In reply to Bigzinc
An absolutely perfect flavour and balance of sweet and sour.
In reply to Norm
Tell he!
We used to come down the tree with a shirt full of dunks, sit down in a corner and enjoy the dunks, while removing pimpla from we foot, skull, etc! (We used a shirt like a bag up in the tree.)
Plimpla? What plimpla?




In reply to Runs
man you know how many plimpler jucks i get climbing dem big ass dunk trees. and then when yuh get down from the tree some girl want yuh ripest dunks.
In reply to sudden
The story of your life, man!
In reply to Runs
In reply to Runs
My paternal granny had loads of fruit trees at Main and Coburg. The guinep tree was the most dangerous because it was full of hairy worms. My second sister would cover herself in limacol and climb - she always got both the guineps and the stings. We would sit in the sapodilla tree for hours devouring di fruit.
How we loved those long holidays in New Amsterdam - we roamed all over the place.
In reply to Chrissy
free mangoes, guinep, psydium, dunks, starapple, sugar cane, sijan whitey, sapodilla, tamarind, guava
Free means picking from the neighbours or friends fruit trees.
growing up in a small village on the EBD was special with countless happy memories.
In reply to Bigzinc
Seriously - we rarely bought fruit at the market -life was delightful
In reply to Bigzinc
crap, i forgot Jackfruit and coconut...not really a fruit but coconut water and jelly is the stuff of life...
not to mention soursop... not to be picked until tested by the birds.
some of dem islands use the word 'pear' to describe zaboca/avocado so ah wonder what they would call an actual pear
Like when we Trinis encounter Mediterranean figs for the first time?
In reply to DukeStreet
Am sure you went and picked dunks by Young St.
In reply to Bigzinc
Anybody ever had baby coconut - coconut about 1/2 inch long - with water and even jelly?
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