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Rudeman 2020-05-25 20:06:26 

I'm binge-watching old cricket DVD's that I recently received. I just watched a test match between England and West Indies. West Indies won by an innings and 226 runs.

Fredricks 51
Kanhai 157
Sobers 150 Not out
Julien 121
Lloyd 63

Does anyone know when this match was played (Year)

 
JamMack 2020-05-25 20:15:55 

In reply to Rudeman

That was 1973.

 
camos 2020-05-25 20:25:20 

In reply to Rudeman
where was the game?

 
Rudeman 2020-05-25 20:26:29 

In reply to camos

I think it was Lords

 
camos 2020-05-25 20:34:28 

I am thinking Sobers was retired by '73 , Kanhai was the captain then.

 
Dukes 2020-05-25 20:45:20 

Both Sobers and Kanhai "retired" after the same test match against England in Trinidad in 1974. However Sobers was named for the World Cup in 1975 but had to pull out and was replaced by Kanhai who made 50 odd in the Final against Australia at Lords.

 
camos 2020-05-25 20:45:57 

The original side for the 1973 tour was:
Rohan Kanhai, captain
Lance Gibbs, vice-captain
Keith Boyce
Steve Camacho
Maurice Foster
Roy Fredericks
Vanburn Holder
Inshan Ali
Bernard Julien
Alvin Kallicharran
Clive Lloyd
David Murray, wicketkeeper
Deryck Murray, wicketkeeper
Lawrence Rowe
Grayson Shillingford
Elquemedo Willett

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2020-05-25 20:46:16 

In reply to camos

Sobers last tour. He played under kanhai

 
camos 2020-05-25 20:49:04 

Gary Sobers, who opted out of the tour after knee surgery and played the 1973 English cricket season instead with Nottinghamshire, was drafted in for the three Test matches.

 
Dukes 2020-05-25 21:19:49 

In reply to camos

What was ridiculous about that tour was

1.Sobers pulled out after knee surgery despite protesting that he was fit for the previous series at home against Australia.

2.Davis opted out of the tour because he had other "commitments" yet ended up in the dressing room for all 3 test matches

3.Camacho got hit by Andy Roberts which ended his tour and test career.

4.Lawrence Rowe became allergic to grass and missed the test series

5. Sobers made himself available for the test matches and in the final test went out drinking after he was not out overnight and did not sleep at all and at one point the next day had to run off the field to throw up holding up play for a couple of minutes in the process and calmly came back out to continue batting as if nothing had taken place.

6.Boyce had a magnificent first test and series.

7.Sobers took 2 magnificent catches off Gibbs at backward short leg.

8.Ron Headley was drafted into the team because of Camacho and Rowe being unable to play.

9. An unnamed player missed a test match because he complained of a pain in his chest the morning of the test match.This was stated in Lloyd's first book.Not sure who it was but I have my suspicions.

Despite all this we trashed England 2-0 in the 3 match series.

 
Dukes 2020-05-25 21:43:39 

NOT A HUMAN

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2020-05-25 23:00:52 

In reply to Dukes

I remember him playing at the mecca and was batting on 90 something. The water cart came out...not like these days...the lil push cart bearing H2O. He sent back the 12th man to the pavilion. the 12th man came back with a brown liquid in a glass. Sobie down it and went back and hit the next 2 balls for sixes and move to 100.


What was in the brown liquid that glass

 
tc1 2020-05-26 00:24:42 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Sweet water. lol

 
Dukes 2020-05-26 00:50:17 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Lloyd has some stories about Sobie!!!! Those guys genuinely believe that he could do anything and if he had the same dogged determination to not get out that Shiv has he could have averaged in the 80's.Between 1958 and 1969 he averaged 72.

 
Oilah 2020-05-26 00:54:12 

Brandy and port big grin

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2020-05-26 01:34:04 

In reply to Dukes

like Lloyds 1st tour to India? Lloydie was having trouble with Chandra and Sobie come down and said I have a bet on the horse race at 3 so let me handle him. Bam Bam match over

 
Dukes 2020-05-26 01:47:14 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Yep.Or the time on that tour when he and Wes were batting and he was coaching Wes.They came in for tea and of course Wes was boasting how he was at ease against Chandra and there was no problem.Sobie decided to stop coaching Wes and in no time, Chandra cleaned him up and Garry could not stop laughing.

 
imusic 2020-05-26 04:44:21 

Regardless of performance, let a player today go out the night before, have a hangover the next day, go out to play with that hangover, throw up etc and everybody knew why....he would be crucified.....not exalted and admired.


Different times. Different strokes for different folks

 
camos 2020-05-26 11:41:07 

In reply to imusic

Gayle and Sarwan among others went the Mound in Sabina ,AFTER a game and you remember the reaction.

 
sudden 2020-05-26 11:49:01 

did gayle or sarwan make 150 not out in that match and what was the result of the match?

 
culpepperboy 2020-05-26 12:43:28 

Sobers made himself available for the test matches and in the final test went out drinking after he was not out overnight and did not sleep at all and at one point the next day had to run off the field to throw up holding up play for a couple of minutes in the process and calmly came back out to continue batting as if nothing had taken place.

Gary was always Sober

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2020-05-26 13:46:14 

In reply to imusic

Saw a YouTube Lara said on his 1st tour to oz he partied all week in a night club in sydney before making his maiden 277.

 
Dukes 2020-05-26 14:48:20 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Lara named his daughter Sydney after the place where he made his maiden test ton. Lloydie said they were relieved he did not make his maiden ton in Lahore.

 
imusic 2020-05-26 14:58:34 

In reply to Dukes

Lara named his daughter Sydney after the place where he made his maiden test ton. Lloydie said they were relieved he did not make his maiden ton in Lahore

My understanding is that it was Holding that said that about Lara’s child. Not Lloyd.

 
Dukes 2020-05-26 15:05:50 

In reply to imusic

Clearly it offended you. It was intended as a joke and not meant to be a statement about Lara's child.Maybe that is how it was presented to you.

 
camos 2020-05-26 15:35:48 

back to the '73 tour, Keith Boyce is who I can remember as a youth!

 
Dukes 2020-05-26 15:42:14 

In reply to culpepperboy

Gary was always Sober


Reminds me of the first time I got drunk.It was Boxing Day 1972 and we had a tradition where on Boxing Day you visited everybody to eat and drink.I got quite drunk and one of my friends said Banna you drunk to which I responded,Bannas I am Sober more than Sobers.

 
imusic 2020-05-26 16:37:51 

In reply to Dukes

Clearly it offended you. It was intended as a joke and not meant to be a statement about Lara's child.Maybe that is how it was presented to you


1 - I addressed who made the statement.

2 - I found the “joke” offensive at the time and still do.

Trump also said his “grabbing women by the pussy” statement was a joke. “Locker room talk”

Interesting to see your perspective though

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2020-05-26 16:50:34 

In reply to Dukes

Don't touch a tit in imusic presence. he will take out his steel beam and smack yuh big grin big grin

He hasn't forgiven the icann yet big grin big grin

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2020-05-26 16:51:28 

In reply to camos

Boyce would have well been in his 30s by then

 
Dukes 2020-05-26 17:07:12 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

He was 29.

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2020-05-26 17:10:51 

In reply to Dukes

Fair enough. Would have been 30 in October 73

 
Dukes 2020-05-26 17:11:02 

In reply to imusic

Hope this helps

 
Oilah 2020-05-26 17:50:05 

In reply to camos

back to the '73 tour, Keith Boyce is who I can remember as a youth!


Boyce was my first love in test cricket because this was the tour that hooked me. Have special memories of watching the highlights with my father and the extended crew big grin

 
Dukes 2020-05-26 17:57:09 

In reply to Oilah

I recently saw some clips and Boyce's running between the wickets was phenomenal, routinely turning ones into twos.

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2020-05-26 18:02:14 

In reply to Dukes

His throws from the boundary right over the stumps were a sight to behold. People had high hopes for him being the poor man Sobers.


Sobers once indicated that the liquor destroyed Boycie

 
Dukes 2020-05-26 18:05:32 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

His throws from the boundary right over the stumps were a sight to behold

Phenomenal!!!
I seem to recall a competition he won in Essex for being able to throw the cricket ball the furthest.

 
imusic 2020-05-26 18:07:32 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

His throws from the boundary right over the stumps were a sight to behold

THIS! Hard and flat.

 
Dukes 2020-05-26 18:14:02 

In reply to imusic

Did that clip help you understand anything new?

 
Oilah 2020-05-26 18:39:15 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

His throws from the boundary right over the stumps were a sight to behold.


This is one of the memories of Boyce that has staying power the other is the ferocity with which he hit the ball...like he wanted tuh kill it smile

 
imusic 2020-05-26 19:31:13 

In reply to Dukes

I’ve seen that clip before. Nothing new to understand

 
Dukes 2020-05-26 19:40:45 

In reply to imusic

I’ve seen that clip before. Nothing new to understand


WOW!!!!!!!

I am assuming that you do not think Lara's comment was offensive.

 
openning 2020-05-26 20:08:56 

In reply to imusic

Regardless of performance, let a player today go out the night before, have a hangover the next day, go out to play with that hangover, throw up etc and everybody knew why....he would be crucified.....not exalted and admired.


Different times. Different strokes for different folks

After watching the Last Dance, with Denis Rodman Antics and MJ wanted to win, he closed his eyes to Rodman bad behaviour.
Great players can get away with things, other players can't.

 
tc1 2020-05-26 20:53:45 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

You should have seen Gordon Boyce or Winston Skinner throws.you were too young.




lol

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2020-05-26 21:14:11 

In reply to tc1

Saw Skinner playing for Maple later on.

 
sudden 2020-05-26 21:34:01 

In reply to tc1

Man how old you is. Methuselah in got nuttun pun u big grin

 
tc1 2020-05-27 00:28:30 

In reply to sudden

Old as the hills. lol lol

 
tc1 2020-05-27 00:30:29 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

He was the captain of the school team , then Vc of Maple first div.