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Jofra Archer: England bowler reports racist abuse and says sport is 'fickle'

In reply to NineMiles

It should be no surprise that the media and the fans are fickle.

But racist abuse is unacceptable. Sadly, it's becoming the norm.

I can not believe that Archer is surprised.IF he is, he is naive and not plugged in to reality.

In reply to Dukes

He's only 25 years old.

he has to accept the fact he was not born in britain and will never be totally accepted because of that and his skin colour and get over it personally i don't care he is getting what he deserves the bca provided opportunities and invested in him like other other young players like shai hope ,dowrich ,holder and he turned around and played for another country,

In reply to velo

Interesting, explain the opportunities and investment. It would appear that Archer made the decision to migrate because of lack of opportunity and investment. The possibility exist that Archer would not be on the world stage today without the decision he took. Perhaps the BCA dropped the ball and ignored a diamond in the rough. Show some suport and respect for the man, after all he is still our brand.

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

When I was 23 years old I was protesting against Rhodesia and Margaret Thatcher in London!!!!!

I suppose he never heard about Norman Cowans OR CLR JAMES!!!!!
His parents and family did him a disservice if he did not hear about them.

HOLA......Anyone playing sports in England who is non white and who is from a different country or born British but culture and religion differs from the norm will be subjected to abuse,racial and religious taunts...
Its not right but hell it makes a lot of people happy when one is subjected to the taunts I just described.
IT not gonna change...and the tauntee needs to be cool and just fight back with words and actions that can be viewed as exemplary to others..
In most cases its a bunch of silly dumbarses that try to be bullies...remember SKINHEADS...PAKI BASHING ..IRISH BASHING...YUP the Irish had a good share of abuse..
anyway my advice to Archie is to seek out Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid..and Saleh..and get some advice and insight as to how they ARE DEALING with this issue and continue to get the respect of their peers and a great percentage of the nation.
Adios
CB

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Qhen you was 25 a suh yuh did fool fool?

I am getting the feeling he likes the attention...whether it's good or bad

In reply to natty_forever

Love dat Jamaican vernacular!!!!!!Yuh dus talk sweet eeh!!!!!

In reply to natty_forever

I suspect even later than that!

In reply to natty_forever




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In reply to jacksprat


Wah!


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In reply to velo

Seriously??? I trust dat neither u nor any of your family have migrated and lived and worked overseas after receiving an initial education in ur homeland

In reply to Dukes

It is reasonable for him to be surprised at the extent of the racism he faces.

His shoes, his journey.

In reply to Trinidave

Every immigrant receives that wake up call at some point or another.

In reply to Dukes

You were just following the trends at that time. If you weren't leading the march, you were a follower, you were probably there because all the fine chicks at uni with nice asses were marching. Just like Jofra "followed" Chris Jordan to England without fully girding his loins for what he could be in for.

In reply to Trinidave

Some black people feel that racism against black people only takes place against uneducated, poor and criminal black people and are therefore SHOCKED when it occurs to them as MiDDLE or UPPER CLASS HIGHLY EDUCATED RICH BLACKS.
Granted I was fortunate to hear stories from my uncle who in the midst of war and famine went to the US in the 1930's to Howard and dealt with racism and poverty and then my mother in the early 1950's also in the US turning up in NYC for her 1st day as a doctor and being told that the cleaners have to go to the back of the ward for the cleaning supplies.
However it is surprising to me that Archer is seemingly of the mindset that his celebrity status inoculates him from racism.He must be in a "bubble" but not from the virus but from reality.

Jofra Archer has the Michael Jackson syndrome. He think him name Peter Pan. The reality of class and racism is rife in the UK. Him never hear Michael Holding take on it?
Maybe he girlfriend tell him different.

In reply to Larr Pullo

ZERO BLACK CHICKS IN MY CLASS AND I WAS LIKE SPARROW

In reply to Dukes

TriniD agrees wid you. But TriniD believes dat it is sometimes more nuanced.

For example, new-Immigrant TriniD (who immigrated to attend university) was always educated about racism and always knew it existed. But when TriniD started university, and sat down wid his Caribbean friends, who lived in de US longer dan TriniD, TriniD was surprised by de level or racism, like cops pulling guns and threatening lives at routine traffic stops.
So for TriniD it was not dat racism existed, or that it is bad, but the level of racism, and really the level to which there is no recourse to fight racism. Institutional racism takes getting used tuh.


Joffra grew up in de social media age, so TriniD assumes for Joffra, de swing from love tuh hate is exponential, as social media tends to be, so it must be extremely sobering.

I am surprise that this was not a consideration in his decision making process, England is a very racist place. I might add, he is experiencing racism in its mildest form due to his stardom, that intensity is multiplied ten fold when a black female enters medical school even when she is in the top 1% of her class, she is encouraged to be a nurse.

Their are strong arguments tracing the birthplace of racism to the British Empire, although they tried to erase history it is well documented how the Crown instilled tyrants in British Overseas Territories to bring indigenous people into submission even with deadly abuse. Churchill once said the sun never sets on the British Empire, that is not true today, why?

In reply to Dukes

why would people think so, the more educated you are the bigger threat you are perceived to be!

Archer probably is getting advise only from some English guy, he needs to grasp reality, he will be with them for 4 or so seasons until a suitable white guy comes along, so collect your money buy a house in England and one in Bim and be prepared for IPL.

he going to be part of windrush if they don't win the series

In reply to camos

So he should simply accept the racist abuse and move on and not complain or highlight it? Seriously??

With thinking like that, it's no wonder this planet is full of racists!

We'd probably still be on the sugar plantations if we left things unchallenged!

In reply to NineMiles Social media is one thing, but in your face is quite another story.

In reply to BeatDball

Still, we need to challenge and educate people. Don't just say that's how things are and accept them.

There is no justification for racial abuse, not in any form or on any platform!

Roddy Estwick there for Jofra

In reply to NineMiles

Patna buy that.....everyone who spent two minutes in england knows the country has a lot of prejudiced and outright racist people.

In reply to Jumpstart

Isn't that the truth.

Once ur an outsider in England the British press is going to eat u alive and this plays into the prejudices that most Brits have and no matter what you do this will never go away. The British press also attacks Raheem Sterling and insinuated that he was more interested in bling bling than representing England but the difference is Raheem never cry over it he tough it out, cuz Jamaicans cut from a different cloth.

In reply to NineMiles

Hola....define a racist....
Thank you.
Adios
CB

In reply to NineMiles

I believe he is one of Roddy's former students.
Most of I leave the region to make a better life for ourselves and family.
I will be so hypocritical to condemn Jofra, for making the same choice.

In reply to natty_forever

Him still fool fool.

How quickly many forget that the ginger haired star boy aka Stokes punched a wanker outside a bar for this kind of abuse not too long ago.

Anything that can be used by weak Lilly livered cowards to abuse so called stars is how they get their kicks.

That he is black and not born there makes it something else to add to the list.