The WI team has been Bamboozled once again. England knew this new wicket was never going to take any spin. Yet, they played Don Bess as cover but as a batsman. Not one ball did he bowled in this third test.
We were duped, hoodwinked, bushwhacked, believing the wicket was going to take some spin. It never did, and it never will, sign done.
Could we have played another seam bowler instead? Absolutely.
Some here would have said, play another batsman from the reserve squad, but that would not have made a difference at all, because England bowling attack was too lethal for our batsmen, and it shows.
Where do we go from here after this test series?
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My Take On The Third Test
2020-07-30 20:06:37
2020-07-30 21:01:56
In reply to TheTrail
Utter nonsense!
So the WI team management waited to see England's team selection before choosing theirs?
And coach and captain are incapable of reading a pitch. Really??
Bess didn't bowl because he wasn't required to. The WI batsmen capitulated, surrendering without a fight!
At no point during the match did they look like they were getting on top of the pace bowlers.
Couldn't even bat for more than a couple of sessions.
Hell, Chase even took 3 wickets in the match. Tell me, how many do you think Bess would have taken had he got the chance to bowl?
No excuses, the batting bombed bigtime!
2020-07-30 21:12:27
In reply to NineMiles
the batting bombed bigtime!
Correct!
And, by the way, do you know what the temperature was on that final day at Old Trafford?
It looked cold to me! Broad was wearig at least two sweaters. And I saw West Indies players huddling in nuff thick sweaters in a strong cold wind under umbrellas strained to the breaking point.
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2020-07-30 21:21:40
In reply to Ewart
It was cold...temp would have been around 14-15 degrees celsius.
Still no excuse, they were here long enough to acclimatise 
2020-07-30 21:39:40
Interesting theory.
So if we had another seamer, the batting would have performed better and the match result would have been different
Batting wasn’t the problem. It was the bowling attack.
Who knew?
2020-07-30 21:53:09
Don't forget the decision making of the Coaches that selected the team. It seem like the picked guys who they thought needed a game and not guys who were suited for the conditions.
2020-07-30 22:40:00
In reply to TheTrail
Why wud anyone bank on spin with rain and overcast weather forecast for all 5 days of the match. Plus how many wickets did spinners take during de month WI were camped out there.
The first pitch was dry but this one was nowhere as dry. England dropped a batsman for an extra seamer.
2020-07-30 22:47:35
In reply to Maispwi
England dropped a batsman for an extra seamer
Because THEY HAD TO TAKE 20 WICKETS to take the trophy.
And we didn’t lose the match because of our bowling
We lost because we weren’t nearly good enough with the bat.
Cornwall....in theory.....is a much better batsman than any seamer we have other than the captain.
A seamer instead of Cornwall is unlikely to have altered the result or performance.
2020-07-30 22:54:07
In reply to imusic
At 122 - 4, who knows what England's 1st inning score wud be with an extra, relatively fresh seamer in de team. Wat we do know is dat de extra spinner didn get it dun and England scored about 90 runs above par.
2020-07-30 22:59:11
In reply to imusic
Cornwall is not a better batsman than Reifer if we go by dere FC stats
2020-07-30 22:59:12
In reply to Maispwi
Who knows indeed?
Maybe if that extra pacer played, our batting would have miraculously performed and scored 326 runs in the first innings instead of in the entire match.
2020-07-30 23:07:15
In reply to imusic
One can question winning the toss, sending the opposition in, and adding a second spinner.
This test was not played in Asia.
2020-07-30 23:07:40
In reply to imusic
man you are trivializing the debate and talking like all major decisions are guess work!
2020-07-30 23:12:03
In reply to camos
I e outlined why I think they may have opted for Cornwall in detail
I’ve already said the decision to bowl first was poor
I’ve also said that the batting is fragile at best and our reserves are woefully inexperienced compared to England’s
Your choice to interpret that as trivial and/or guess work is just that. Your choice.
2020-07-30 23:13:09
In reply to imusic
Since we indulging in speculation, England wudda score 270 in dere first innings and de lead wud not be 172. Dey wudda have to take more risk in dere secpond innings and wudda scraped to 200 by lunch on de 5th day
2020-07-30 23:17:03
I was harsh on Roger Harper, but both him and Lance Gibbs, know these spinners better than me.
Lance said you cannot bowl from a few steps and spin the ball.
BTW, can a Right hand finger spinner, turn the ball from leg to off to a right hand batsman, without being reported for throwing?
2020-07-30 23:19:11
In reply to Maispwi
Keep fantasizing bro. More power
2020-07-30 23:22:46
In reply to openning
BTW, can a Right hand finger spinner, turn the ball from leg to off to a right hand batsman, without being reported for throwing?
Ask Saqlain Mushtaq
2020-07-30 23:23:24
In reply to Maispwi
The first pitch was dry but this one was nowhere as dry. England dropped a batsman for an extra seamer.
That's my point. We brought in a "spinner " instead of a seamer. Cornwall was the fans' pick, and he bombed in batting and bowing. They could have brought in another seamer. Bowlers win games.
Dan Best....18 not out. He stood there with Broad, and how many runs did Broad make? 62
2020-07-30 23:23:28
In reply to openning
It depends on whether he is using his fingers or trying to bowl out of the upturned palm of his hand. It is easy to turn the ball from leg to off with ur fingers without throwing. Its just dat the batsman will see it right out of ur hand. Trying to flick the ball out of an upturned palm is where de elbow flex is ur friend.
2020-07-31 01:00:15
In reply to NineMiles
It was cold...temp would have been around 14-15 degrees celsius... they were here long enough to acclimatise
Maaan, you do not get acclimatised to 14 degrees especially on a windy day. That could push the windchill factor down to 9. The guys did not make that excuse, but I know whereof I speak.
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2020-07-31 03:22:53
This thread is merely an attempt by TheTrial to deflect from the batsman, in particular his countrymen, performances.
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