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In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

Shut up Ambi.

Keep the policy in place, it is a good one and NZ also follow this course as they know their board cannot afford the salaries STAR PLAYERS can earn.

We will pick the best available team, period.

If Russ can gone to NZ, one of the matches was washed out and he would have deprived a youngster a spot on the team.

So he would have played two days of cricket at the expense of a youngster and then forgo big bucks

In reply to Emir

Which NZ players leave out national tours to play T20 leagues?

In reply to Emir

Yuh tell de great Ambi to wah? Shut up?

Wait nobody post "Russell gotta eat a food" and Ambi jealous as yet?

One clown done seh NZ got the same policy.. yet all their top players playing in this tour

In reply to anthonyp

Emit does see windmills.

Everyone has the right to voice an opinion, but Russell also has the right to secure his finances, especially since he does not have a retaining contract with the WI.

In reply to dayne

Ambi has a right to voice his opinion
The same Ambi that always said he thought he would knock out SWaugh because he didn’t care if they banned him (and sullied the WICB) reputation.
That Ambi

No management in the world can allow employees to work for them, when it pleases the worker.
The new admin, give these players an olive branch, why should he and Simmons be selected for the World Cup?

In reply to Ray123

You are asking a silly question and I do not think it is because you are silly.

Hope the following will enlighten you. If Andre Russell had a retainer contract from CWI, the situation would have been different.

The NZ players who play in their country's national tours instead of T20 leagues are those players with retainer contracts from the NZ Cricket Board. They are all guaranteed a salary.

Although the new CWI President and V/President are newly elected, West Indian players still remember the vindictive management style of people within the hierarchy of CWI who treated them like plantation workers instead of professional athletes.

What happens if Andre Russell makes himself available and then the selectors through interference (as happened in the past) overlook him for selection? Would you be willing to contribute to a fund to help him maintain his lifestyle and support his family?

Some of you posters on this board are just full of hot air and are absolutely clueless as to the issues.

Can any of you tell the readers on this forum what the situation is with Shia Hope's retainer contract? For how long is he guaranteed a salary?

In reply to Star

A number of us have been around long enough, and are aware of a number of our T20 stars, refused central contracts.
It is not the same for other international players.
You actually think this new admin would not offered Russ, Bravo, Narine and a few others T20 contracts?

In reply to openning

Sir, are you having difficulty understanding the English language? I tend not to engage posters who exhibit a level of ignorance that makes discussions worthless. You are not in that category judging from your numerous post on this forum but I am beginning to wonder.

Which statement in my post would lead you to deduce what you asked above?

In reply to Star

A number of us have been around long enough, and are aware of a number of our T20 stars, refused central contracts.


The new admin is the management that reverse the policy of Cameron regime, thats the reason for Pollard being captain.


I cannot answer a hypothetical question.

In reply to openning

The players with retainer contracts are employees.

The players who don’t have retainer contracts are contractors, not employees

Employees and contractors have worked for and with employers in every industry for eons.

In reply to imusic

Would you give a contractor a job, if he left you stranded a number of times?

In reply to openning

Yeah it happens all the time in business where your preferred contractor is busy on another project. You then go with the next best contractor but whenever a project comes up you always check if the favored contractor is available.

In reply to beesis

But dat was not the case here. He turned down ur job giving a frivolous reason then turned a round and sought ur permission to work on the other job.

Dis NOC ting eh wuking. It was designed to prevent players from opting out of International Duty in favour of Domestic Competitions but players found a loop hole by declining central contracts. It wud appear though dat only West Indian players are passing up International duty in favour of Domestic Leagues

In reply to Maispwi

Did the West Indies board give the NOC??
Then the West Indies board cannot complain he’s not in NZ

it's so funny that the west indies is the only team that would tolerate this type of behaviour i can't imagine a australian selector asking one of their players to play in a series and the guy boldly lies to his face about why he can't and ends up playing in a tournament the same week as their national team and then when the world cup comes around wants to be part of it

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

Dre a hope them mek yuh Rus!

In reply to velo


And why is it that it only happens with WI players? Why are these players always getting their NOC?
Is there a mutual benefit there for both players and board.. maybe that is why the NOC is always granted. How much money does the board make from granting these NOCs.. I don't hear the board complaining. Those NOC money I am sure goes a long way for the board.

In reply to velo

Australia giving players million dollar contracts ,most T20 can't compete with that type of money.

Ambi needs to drink his porridge cold.

These administrators don't care about the welfare of cricketers including past and current.

They just use them for " expediency".

Is Ambi aware of the status of some of the past players, especially those who were given the wrong end of the stick to hold?

Can you remember the treatment Mumbai Indians offered Alzarri Joseph when he injured his shoulder?

There is a story to this incident compared to a west Indian playing for his own country. Read between the lines.

I agree with these league players. "Treat me good and I will treat you better".

West Indies is a cluster of Islands.Not a country,there lies the problem.
Players don't feel like they are letting their country down just a region.
Nuff hearts are not truly in it.
Russell is not letting down Jamaica. Big difference.

Dey get de NOC otherwise dey wud sue de Board for restraint of trade since dey eh contracted players. Dats where de loophole is and can only be solved by de Board where de Domestic League is being played mandating dat when dere Leagues coincide with International bilateral series, players who have turned down International selection are not eligible to play in the Domestic League.

Dat is probably unlikely to happen cause it doh affect de power houses of the sport

In reply to Lamb

Right on lad. I also agree with these league players. The second part of your post is missing one important word, trust.

Treat me good and I will trust you and treat you better.

i came back to this site after seeing on my news feed, and i just knew most on here would castigate Ambrose, won't be long before others start doing this.
Serves us right

If Russell is still one of the better players and deserve a spot in the best 11 when available then why should he not be picked? When he makes himself unavailable he is running the risk of another player performing and taking his spot. If nobody does and he is still deserving to play then why spite him just because he played in a T20 league?

In reply to Maispwi


So basically you are saying a NOC is irrelevant.. Mmmmm Is that conjecture on your part or has a player sued their board because of a NOC denial? Just wondering.

Don't worry, he will be available for WC.

Those on here long enough been through this discussion ad nauseum, over and over and over and here it is again.

Maybe Courtesy Could post a link to those threads so it don't have to clutter up the MB with this discussion again, as there should be

reference material available to save us from it.