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Prithvi Shaw

 
Runs 2020-12-18 13:45:11 

Failed in both innings, sad

 
Jumpstart 2020-12-18 14:21:06 

In reply to Runs

he has a high backlift and he crouches.....could work on low slow pitches in india.....not in australia though. Rahul probably replaces him for the next test

 
Maispwi 2020-12-18 14:57:24 

In reply to Jumpstart

Kohli eh go be dere so Rahul will be in

 
Jumpstart 2020-12-18 15:01:32 

In reply to Maispwi

Still doubt they're going to pick privthi.

 
pooranian 2020-12-18 15:41:12 

I think MRF rushed to bat contract with him..because they have only dealt with legends so far....Sachin..Lara..Waugh..AB Devilliers..Kohli..Shaw is a big let down...MRF should rethink..He isnt a finished product..

 
SnoopDog 2020-12-18 16:33:02 

In reply to Runs

Like a lot of sub continental players his technique is more suited to flat pitches where the ball doesn't move off the seam much and with pace.

On top of that he's been in poor form for some time now. They shouldn't have pick him on form alone.

 
Halliwell 2020-12-18 17:20:24 

In reply to SnoopDog

You got that right
He appeared for our club, in his even younger incarnation, a few times and these UK low slow pitches suited him

 
Maispwi 2020-12-18 17:39:04 

In reply to SnoopDog

De Yardies advocating for a 25 average batsman to continue being picked will not be happy to hear you suggesting dat one averaging 42 shud be dropped

 
Narper 2020-12-18 19:24:37 

In reply to pooranian

He was good before the drug ban

I want to see Shubman Gill in the test side

 
SnoopDog 2020-12-18 20:00:08 

In reply to Halliwell

I think that Shah is a good player.

But given his poor form at the moment and the fact that his technique isn't quite suited to a place like Oz I think they should try K.L. Rahul at the opening position for the next Test.

Shaw will make runs in places like the Caribbean and the subcontinent - that's where they should pick him to open in Test matches.

 
imusic 2020-12-18 20:13:38 

Netflix has an interesting documentary featuring a 10 year old Prithvi Shaw.

It’s called “Beyonf All Boundaries”

He, like Tendy and Kambli before him, was earmarked for greatness from small. His Mom died when he was very you g and his dad gave up everything to dedicate himself to the young kids career. Similar to Richard Williams and Tiger Woods’ father.

The MRF contract is understandable. Predictable even.

It was interesting to hear people talk about him back then and how much talent he had but even then, they knew how hard it would be to realize that potential to be an Indian test player.

Check it out.

 
navindesigns 2020-12-18 20:20:52 

our batsmen usually fail in both innings too

 
jcveletta 2020-12-19 03:49:38 

In reply to Runs

he stays mate. will come good.

 
tc1 2020-12-19 05:04:23 

In reply to imusic

just like openning did to Paint.

lol lol

 
openning 2020-12-19 05:15:12 

In reply to tc1
I dont believe a guy can score hundreds at every level, and if he stay healthy cannot continue scoring runs.
This is his lean period, I remain a fan.

 
positiveg 2020-12-19 05:22:49 

In reply to navindesigns

U see it too?

 
CricketLuva4 2020-12-19 06:13:23 

In reply to Runs

Other that the fact that he is short and fat and uses an MRF, do you even see any Tendy in him? Maybe that backfoot punch.

The way he slashes through the off, the way he getting bowled....reminds me of Sehwag. Those incoming deliveries used to trouble him.

 
Verstehen 2020-12-19 14:09:06 

In reply to Runs

He's exposed. It was a similar method of dismissal both times.

Needs to go back and work on his game.

 
LBW375 2020-12-19 21:17:45 

C

 
LBW375 2020-12-19 21:37:17 

Watching it now

Mother died when he was 3, father used to sell clothes but left all that to look after his son. He was batting with tennis balls at 2, at age 3 he what with a season ball, the stumps were taller than him. At 8 he was captaining his school Under 14 and they won the championship 3 years straight. In other matches he was playing against 18 and 19 year olds

India will be at the top of World Cricket for quite a while, the total commitment that parents, especially fathers give to their sons, giving up nearly everything to ensure they're properly coached and mentored, the sheer competition at every stage of advancement whether it be pre-teen, club team, Under 14, etc is what forges good players.

We saw how driven Brian Lara and Shuvarine Chandlerpaul were from a very young age and how much thier fathers supported them, and they benefited from what they put in. They also benefited from playing matches against the seasoned test and first class players, who were still playing at that time.

One can say Kraigg Brathwaite was scoring big runs from his youth days, but do we have in place the infrastructure, the mentors, the talent to identify player's weaknesses and coach their improvement. I havent even seem that with out test team coaching staff.

Prithvi's father to his young son in the nets "the ball is bouncing, you need to come forward". He depends the next ball "you didnt come forward" he replies

 
Jumpstart 2020-12-19 22:25:22 

In reply to LBW375

Well obviously nobody identified Privthi's weaknesses. He had the same problem in NZ. On low flat and turning pitches that allow the time to adjust, his technique could work and has worked. But outside, it is like blood in the water for sharks.

Kraigg made loads of runs in the WI because the bowling in the FC tournament has historically been woeful. It is already affected by the fact that the best players are on WI duty or in t20 leagues. Remember brathwaite was 3rd in the pecking order of openers. Barath was first, well he became a Witness and then Keiran Powell who despite enormous talent, can't seem to get his head in the game. maybe a move from Leeward islands might do him good. Then it was Kraigg. He got there by default

That "you need to come forward" instruction perfectly illustrates Shaw's technical issues. You don't play short deliveries on the forward. Gavaskar mentioned this a few days before this test. You need to play back, giving you time to move or, if you have guts, hook. Ashwin did that excellently in the first innings.

 
tc1 2020-12-19 22:33:58 

In reply to LBW375

Agreed 100 % , community involvement is still first step in preparing young players- father, uncle, brothers etc, elementary school cricket league.

 
LBW375 2020-12-19 22:55:59 

In reply to Jumpstart

Prithvi will adjust.

The support is there, the technical competence is there, the infrastructure is there, ex-players are there and will offer help.

We don't operate that way.

Yardie hoping for Kraigg's failure, Bimmers want Campbell gone, the Muddies just want Hetmyer in the XI and the other islands want XI LI/WI players lol

I'm being silly of course, but our structure limits us

 
Jumpstart 2020-12-19 23:29:26 

In reply to LBW375

Good point. Devon Smith is a perfect example. I remember his first series vs australia in 2003. Thought he looked a good player, but it was almost a given once gillespie started bowling around the wicket, he would edge and that problem has not left him. The WICB does not value hard work and training, which is why our guys look so totally ill prepared when they go out into the international arena.

BTW. I am still of the view that Desmond Haynes should be the WI batting coach. They need him

 
openning 2020-12-20 02:52:33 

In reply to Jumpstart

Kraigg made loads of runs in the WI because the bowling in the FC tournament has historically been woeful. It is already affected by the fact that the best players are on WI duty or in t20 leagues. Remember brathwaite was 3rd in the pecking order of openers. Barath was first, well he became a Witness and then Keiran Powell who despite enormous talent, can't seem to get his head in the game. maybe a move from Leeward islands might do him good. Then it was Kraigg. He got there by default

Thats a bunch of hogwash.
I am a fan of the young man, and your post does not tell the truth.
Simmons and Devon Smith failed miserably in 2011, Barath played a few matches, Kraigg opened with Simmon in the final test against Pakistan.
The next series was a three test against India, Barath opened with Simmons the first two test, and with Powell the last test.
That was the last series that Barath played.
2011 regional series was Kraigg's first, he was among the top openers, with an average of 42.
Kraigg batting is not attractive, but I will defend his debut, I spend to much time with Imusic, not to know the history.
Kraigg made the team after his stat in 2011, even scoring a ton that first regional.

Brathwaite made his first-class debut aged just 16 and impressed, scoring 73 while opening the batting for Barbados. He was called up for the West Indies squad for the Test series against Bangladesh in 2009, when senior players had gone on strike, and was subsequently awarded a contract by the West Indies Cricket Board. A patient batsman, who likens his batting style to Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Brathwaite won a place in the West Indies Under-19 squad for the World Cup in 2010 in New Zealand. He was West Indies' leading run-scorer and overall second highest with 335 runs with four fifties. He made the senior side in 2011, and debuted against Pakistan in the home Test series.

 
Jumpstart 2020-12-20 07:30:11 

In reply to openning

lendl simmons only played 8 tests. Smith has played 43

 
openning 2020-12-20 16:54:44 

In reply to Jumpstart

Kraigg made loads of runs in the WI because the bowling in the FC tournament has historically been woeful. It is already affected by the fact that the best players are on WI duty or in t20 leagues. Remember brathwaite was 3rd in the pecking order of openers. Barath was first, well he became a Witness and then Keiran Powell who despite enormous talent, can't seem to get his head in the game. maybe a move from Leeward islands might do him good. Then it was Kraigg. He got there by default

My response is solely to the above.
Is it because he was a scab, selected to the squad in 2009, when the players went on strike?
When you come with lies, the data is there for all to see.

 
Narper 2020-12-29 04:03:38 

In reply to Narper

In reply to pooranian

He was good before the drug ban

I want to see Shubman Gill in the test side


He has delivered

 
Jumpstart 2020-12-29 04:08:04 

In reply to Narper

Shaw will need to go back to the drawing board. He should seek out tendulkar or dravid for technical advice.