A weakened Bangladesh without their best bowlers: Shakib and Mustafizur.
Thi is Bangaldesh's record since gaining test status:
120 Test matches, 14 wins, 90 losses, 16 drawn a 11 %.
7 wins vs Zimbabwe, 4wins out of 21 vs West Indies with single wins vs Australia, England and Sri Lanka.
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Impressed by the fight but this is still Bangladesh!
2021-02-12 13:49:48
2021-02-12 13:58:18
Their bowling attack:
Abu Jayed 9 tests 24 wickets / 32.45 ave
Mehidy 23 tests with 98 wickets 32.16 ave
Nayeem Hassan 6 tests with their best ave of 24.90 but it's early days for him
Tajijul 30 tests with 33.53 ave
2021-02-12 14:03:48
In reply to voiceofreason
Bangladeshi Revo
2021-02-12 14:09:54
In reply to voiceofreason
At the same time 6 or 7 of this Bangladesh side were part of the team that beat the West Indies 2-0 in 2018.
2021-02-12 14:14:53
In reply to WICFan
Which 6 /7?
2021-02-12 14:16:03
In reply to voiceofreason
Bim ,TT, Guyana and Jmaica can take on Bangladesh at the moment, and stand as good a chance of beating them as our present WI team them.
2021-02-12 14:18:48
In reply to voiceofreason
Sarkar, Haque, Mithun, Miraz, Islam, Rahim, Hasan.
2021-02-12 14:28:55
In reply to voiceofreason
I agree, as good as our guys look, it’s still Bangladesh! Plus the ball hasn’t turn that much IMO!
2021-02-12 14:44:00
In reply to granite
nonsense, the other players would have continued their premise of losing in three or four days. Why don't you guys really watch the cricket? Did you not see the batting line up left England with no confidence? They went to New Zealand and failed again with the bat, the ground fielding were terrible and they were dropping sitters and whistling after.
2021-02-12 14:50:42
In reply to voiceofreason
Agreed it is Bangladesh....2nd tier test team.....which plays only 3 day cricket in Bangladesh...and historically can only concentrate for 3 days in a match
But they are very difficult to beat at home.
I am impressed our batsmen are able to handle the top spinners like Hassan and Islam. That is quite an achievement.
2021-02-12 14:58:18
In reply to Narper
and historically can only concentrate for 3 days in a match
according to the commentary all the young players are being groomed on 4 day cricket. Bangladesh was shocked and rocked by the first test defeat and over reacted. They dropped their best seamer.
2021-02-12 15:06:14
In reply to granite I believe Leewards can beat them!
2021-02-12 15:07:31
In reply to voiceofreason
Agreed...this Bangladesh side is really weak without their premier player Sakib.... pitches are not Turner....one can see the highlights of 2018 matches,where ball was turning square.....at the same time any win specially away win are appreciable.... West Indies do have bowling attack comparable to the best in the world....if improvement is made in fielding and batting...we can be in top 5 .... sooner than later....in N.Z. our fielding let us down bid time and in England,some poor decisions by team management...
2021-02-12 15:07:45
In reply to WICFan
Yes but their best and most experienced player is Shakib Al Hasan. I just say we need to temper our excitement as this is not only just Bangladesh but a weakened Bangladesh! I watched some of the cricket and it was very ordinary bowling. My Granny ( God bless her soul) could have cracked a half ton vs this team.
2021-02-12 15:07:55
A Test Match is a Test Match. Enjoy the batting performances and look forward to continued growth. Nobody's anointing these guys as the saviours of WI Test cricket, but come on. After the disappointment of the ODIs, the fans should be entitled to some enjoyment.
2021-02-12 15:21:06
In reply to voiceofreason
I didn't say LI because I still feel they are a developing team with some future players,I expect big things from Carty.
2021-02-12 15:23:04
In reply to voiceofreason
this has to be the most unreasonable argument you have ever made. The same batsmen that fall for spit to any one that turn over their hands in the Caribbean and call themselves a spinner will go to Bangladesh and beat them! None of our spinners are as good as Bangladesh spinners.
2021-02-12 15:30:50
the fact that others are supporting this garbage is even more shocking. This team is the best job the selectors did in the last decade. I kept telling you guys over a year that Bonner is the best bat in Jamaica and his technique is as good as any in the region. Blackwood has been working on his game diligently. And many on here have seen unique qualities in DaSilva since his first season. mk charles said on here more than once that Mayers is the best cricketer in Barbados. So all who think that is a fluke and the other players in the Caribbean will have done the same is sadly mistakened.
2021-02-12 15:35:46
In reply to voiceofreason
Yes but their best and most experienced player is Shakib Al Hasan. I just say we need to temper our excitement as this is not only just Bangladesh but a weakened Bangladesh
Losing to what was deemed as a weakened West Indies team.
How many people expected this West Indies side to be in the current position they are in?
This isn't the return to being a top 5 side, but it's a pleasant surprise.
2021-02-12 16:03:04
In reply to voiceofreason
as good as our guys look, it’s still Bangladesh!
agreeing with you and StumpCam...
2021-02-12 16:11:40
In reply to methodic
The same batsmen that fall for spit to any one that turn over their hands in the Caribbean and call themselves a spinner will go to Bangladesh and beat them! None of our spinners are as good as Bangladesh spinners.
Based on the Bangladeshi Spinners' averages and from what I have seen they seem fairly ordinary. Cornwall is better than those guys.
2021-02-12 16:12:22
In reply to methodic
None of our spinners are as good as Bangladesh spinners!
Bangladesh may have better spinners, but our wickets in the Caribbean are worse!
2021-02-12 16:15:53
In reply to methodic
I kept telling you guys over a year that Bonner is the best bat in Jamaica and his technique is as good as any in the region.
Yet he averages 27.81 after 70 FC matches. I saw some joker compare him to Mike Hussey. I tell you we are acting like we have not seen enough of West Indian cricket in the last two decades to know better.
I am impressed with their fight but definitely aware that this is far from being anything close to a stern test of their skills.
2021-02-12 16:30:24
time will tell and don't make time a liar because he already told you about the middle order that was replaced.
2021-02-12 16:41:32
I am not going to take anything away from these guys.
I watched DaSilva and Joseph bat last night / this morning and was quite impressed with the level of concentration. Do they still have work to do? Absolutely!.
DaSilva for one needs to adjust that distance/ gap between bat and pad when playing forward defensively, and most of these guys need to work on some of their techniques.
The grittiness they showed in the first test with Bonner and Mayers setting the foundation for the victory, I am not sure that the "team" which refused to go to Bangladesh would have achieved.
I know the opponent is not the greatest, but they have Test Cricket Status and coming back with a series win or draw is better than getting the skin peeled off them.
What I see in this new crop is some guys who are hungry to play test cricket.
The incumbents such as Hetty, Lil Bravo, Brooks, Hope et al have to realize that there are guys breathing down their necks and if they do not take their game seriously, they will be on the outside looking in.
2021-02-12 16:44:02
In reply to voiceofreason
Yet he averages 27.81 after 70 FC matches.
end of term exams count for 80% of the final grade. Check he test stats, avg 65, that is an A plus.
2021-02-12 16:44:02
In reply to voiceofreason
I am impressed with their fight but definitely aware that this is far from being anything close to a stern test of their skills.
I think you should leave it here. That sums it up ...
2021-02-12 16:55:10
In reply to voiceofreason
I am impressed with their fight but definitely aware that this is far from being anything close to a stern test of their skills.
Really! is a good thing you are not a God or else your people will surely burn in hellfire!
Are you aware that the 396 was the highest score ever chased down in Asia in the 4th innings.
2021-02-12 21:56:54
In reply to methodic
Doh forget the 210 not out by a debutant and the fourth inning partnership of 216.
2021-02-12 22:06:10
In reply to methodicAgain. Against the worst of the Asian Teams. 11% tells no tales!
2021-02-12 22:33:02
In reply to voiceofreason
Years ago when Cappo Sammy was in Bagla with his team and we won others were saying is just Bangla.
Now jump ahead we back in Bangla ans winning you now saying is just Bangla.
I will say this just like I say all the time. Yiu can only beat who they put in front of you.
I see a lot of promise in this squad especially the middle order bats.
I hope when he next series come uo they don't just bring back those who refused to tour but was just next door making money.
2021-02-12 22:44:06
With the present team, it seems like leadership is playing a big part with the success they are having.
2021-02-13 00:36:23
In reply to positiveg
Can you tell me the names of the players from the past test team that during this period is off playing in other leagues.
2021-02-13 01:52:50
In reply to voiceofreason
DO you have a breakdown of the home versus away record for the spinners?
2021-02-13 04:58:37
In reply to voiceofreason
Yes Bangladesh bowlers are very ordinary...lots being said about this West Indies team..
Braithwaite
Campbell
Blackwood
Silva
Cornwall
Joseph
Gabriel
Warrican
Roach
All above players are regulars in the team..
Bonner,Mosley and Meyers are new players included .... posters are saying the West Indies team 2nd string... laughable..
Simmons says attitude of the players ....would love some clarification with respect of players in ODI or test matches...we are also losing white ball games very badly...
My hunch is Holder's days as Captain of test are numbered...
Last time Simmons was coach he forcefully retired Shiv ....
Every win is worth in gold irrespective of class of opposite..but hypocrisy of some posters ,who themselves were belittling the win against Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Pakistan,even England .....are hailing this victory against weak Bangladesh side ,playing test after one year due to Covid...as renaissance....
2021-02-13 05:17:06
In reply to methodic
Correct, the Quote Senior Team would have lost the first test, no doubt in my mind. When was the last time the Senior Team posted a total in excess of 400 or won a test match. I would love to hear the reasons for not selecting Bonner when the Senior batsmen were failing repeatedly in New Zealand and England.
The big difference with the batsmen on this tour is the opposition has to work to get their wickets. In the past, the opposition required no effort to get WI wickets. Just bowl a decent length and line and the WI batsmen would give their wickets away doing foolishness.
2021-02-13 07:00:16
That swept us last time in 3 days.
2021-02-13 10:17:40
In reply to bdaTryangle
I agree!
Bangladesh might be a tier two team, but so are we. Let's celebrate the victories when and where we get them.
2021-02-13 13:57:24
In reply to voiceofreason
Should we also discount Cornwall's
5-fer since "it's only Bangladesh"?
2021-02-13 15:38:02
In reply to positiveg Again I admire the Players' fight and commitment but just keeping it in context that sterner contests are ahead especially for our batsmen.
2021-02-13 15:39:16
In reply to jacksprat A 5fer vs India would be a greater prize.
2021-02-13 15:59:42
In reply to Onionman0
Agreed.
Also remember all these players have been traveling with the first team for nearly 6 months now. Whether it be England or New Zealand or in Bangladesh for a month. They are well prepped.
2021-02-13 16:18:05
I agree that the results are encouraging but this is just Bangladesh. I just wish the same sense is knocked into the heads of 6-in a row gang of the past
2021-02-13 17:02:30
In reply to jacksprat
Should we also discount Cornwall's
5-fer since "it's only Bangladesh"?
5-fer since "it's only Bangladesh"?
Love it!
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2021-02-13 17:17:27
In reply to voiceofreason
Absolutely.....a story is being spin....a 2nd string West Indies team beat powerful Bangladesh team...on the contrary, as correctly pointed out by you...the same set of players are together since England tour..... Bishop started it...by lauding Simmons... Simmons attributed the win ...to the new found attitude of incoming players.. Simmons main target is Holder.... Neither Bishop nor Simmons talks about attitude of white ball players in this series or previous ones... Performance in white ball is abysmal to say the least...
2021-02-13 17:36:11
In reply to Pacy 6 in a row included two wins against a very strong New Zealand team.
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