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Dukes- the original bully was he

 
Barry 2021-04-24 09:04:31 

A Burnham mind?


In his next over, Croft slammed a series of bouncers at Hadlee, and when Goodall no-balled him, Croft deliberately knocked the bails off as he walked back past the stumps. As he ran in to bowl his next ball (he did so from almost directly behind the umpire) he deliberately shoulder-charged him.
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Barry 2021-04-24 09:07:00 

I know your memory is going or gone

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Barry 2021-04-24 09:09:59 


But the fourth day contained the most unpleasant incident of all. Colin Croft, who was repeatedly jeered by the crowd for dawdling back to his mark, appealed - belatedly - for a catch behind when Hadlee swished at a bouncer and again Goodall turned it down. Croft reacted with a four-letter salvo at Goodall, and both then umpires spoke to West Indies' captain, Lloyd. It had little effect.
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Barry 2021-04-24 13:31:00 

Dukes is a coward... big grin

 
Dukes 2021-04-24 13:35:06 

In reply to Barry

I guess you are blissfully unaware of my feelings about Colin Croft.However you feel about him, then multiply it by 10 to find out how I feel about him.

 
Barry 2021-04-24 13:38:01 

Please note two Guyanese are involved.
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Curtis 2021-04-24 17:23:02 

Colin was simply expressing his displeasure with blatantly inaccurate calls. You would too.

It's the fast bowler mentality.

Viv also had that.

 
Barry 2021-04-24 17:32:42 

In reply to Curtis

So serial killers are simply expressing Thor displeasure? razz

 
Dukes 2021-04-24 17:40:28 

In reply to Barry

So Crof is a SKUNT. Does not mean that you have to be one too!!!!!

 
uton 2021-04-24 17:53:44 

In reply to Dukes
Colin suffered from a lack of mentorship. Someone needed to harness and pivot Colin's energy and intellect into another direction.

 
Dukes 2021-04-24 18:05:10 

In reply to uton

Colin suffered from a lack of mentorship.


I have known him since 1970 when he played for Central High School vs QC and his response to hitting Juggie Walcott in the box and forcing him to retire hurt was to laugh..
In 1972 Kanhai and Gibbs arranged for him to go to Warwickshire and then Clive Lloyd got him into Lancashire.3 Great Players but none of them gave him any mentorship???

 
methodic 2021-04-24 20:04:08 

I had no problem with Croft charging into the umpire

 
Curtis 2021-04-24 20:13:47 

What about this, why the hate and no defense for Croft

 
Overthrow 2021-04-24 20:41:59 

In reply to Curtis

The Croft incident has to be taken into context. WI having defeated Australia went to New Zealand facing a blatantly racist press along with the public in general. The umpiring from the first test was deplorable at best. If’s memory serves me correctly in one test over two innings there were 14 LBW decisions against WI an three against New Zealand.
Rugby was the big game in New Zealand and they would regularly compete with South Africa whose were banned from most international sport at the time. It was clear the kiwis needed to show a superiority of their kind then realized they’could only accomplish by cheating. The players came very close to abandoning this tour.

 
Barry 2021-04-24 22:20:51 

In reply to methodic

You have no moral and spiritual values just envy for the Trinis evil

 
Barry 2021-04-24 23:14:09 

In reply to Overthrow

The Croft incident has to be taken into context
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Let's put murder in context. Find a reason, eh?

 
Curtis 2021-04-24 23:21:06 

In reply to Overthrow

I totally support their behavior in face of blatant thievery

 
imusic 2021-04-24 23:34:08 

I’m no Colin Croft fan.

But there’s obviously something to the man.

After being ostracized like the rest of his rebel teammates, he has gone on to have a career, first in Aviation and then as a cricket pundit on TV

That’s pretty remarkable given the odds and hurdles he would have faced as a result of his actions by going to South Africa at that time.

Again.....not a fan....but have to respect his ability to overcome and prosper.....at least on the face of it.

 
Barry 2021-04-24 23:45:06 

In reply to imusic
Colin was in Trinidad learning Aviation and playing for Paragon. He returned to lead the SPEC at UWI. What a great career as an honorary white and the only man to lick down an umpire . . . I invite all young people to imitate his career path. I mean Gilchrist had a temper but to lay your hands on a man like a wayward preacher . . . well, moral and spiritual values

 
Barry 2021-04-24 23:45:52 

In reply to Curtis
Man thief you, you lick him down, the court charge you, smart . . .

lol

 
Overthrow 2021-04-25 00:09:33 

In reply to Barry

Countless political leaders gone to war for personal reasons killing thousands. Call the murdered terrorist an it appeases the masses. Suggest you make it your life’s work to have them brought upon one charges at The Hague.

 
methodic 2021-04-25 00:41:16 

In reply to Barry

Croft charging into the umpire and Holding kicking down the stumps were two things of beauty. I am actually looking to have those two pictures blown up and framed and be the center piece of my living room.
Those actions led to West Indies going 15 years undefeated.

 
Barry 2021-04-25 00:51:32 

In reply to methodic
Good for you-it is what I would expect from a criminal who has no moral and spiritual values . . . All you need now is the wife beater and philanderer . . .

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Barry 2021-04-25 00:56:20 

In reply to Overthrow

Countless political leaders gone to war for personal reasons killing thousands.

War is a good thing unless it happens to you. Fat lazy West Indians have never fought for anything. Slavery? Only the Haitians and Maroons fought . . . Independence? They used the opportunity to abuse their brother . . . Oil in Guyana . . . they will fight verbally over that . . . They have discovered nothing, have fought over nothing but a fart . . . with such little responsibility how easy it is barge into an umpire-you an honorary white and all

razz

 
SnoopDog 2021-04-25 01:09:11 

In reply to Barry the Retard

Guyanese Man thief you Trini wife, you go an watch Lara DVDs


I’ll bring her back home by 1am. Honest! lol

 
Barry 2021-04-25 01:47:04 

In reply to SnoopDog
If a woman can deal with your 3.56 inches, she deserves all the mud and shit she gets in your homeland. Hey brother, don't bring her back - I already have your frigid . . . Focus on cricket Sir . . . Croft is a bully . . .

big grin

 
Brerzerk 2021-04-25 01:57:47 

In reply to Barry
Croft's assault was a shoulder barge, hope that's what meant by laying hand which is wrong either way. Hope the mention of Gilchrist has nothing to do with assaulting anyone as those stories are all fiction.

 
Brerzerk 2021-04-25 02:06:50 

In reply to Overthrow
There was a longer Vid apparently now taken down where Goodall refers to Clive Lloyd not coming down to talk to him as 'typical lazy West indian' that says a lot

 
Barry 2021-04-25 02:52:48 

In reply to Brerzerk
Can't you read? What fiction? I am not going to continue because I think you are a fool. Just to note, my comment on Gilchrist was from his own words. You are one of the persons he would never have liked.

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Barry 2021-04-25 02:55:07 

In reply to Brerzerk

There was a longer Vid apparently now taken down where Goodall refers to Clive Lloyd not coming down to talk to him as 'typical lazy West indian' that says a lot

That's an absolute lie, Socafighter. You fat . . . Croft . . . Lloyd was angry and never left his first slip position . . . You come with your nasty lies spoiling this thread . . . of course i want to hurt my friend Dukesy, but I will never lie like you.

 
Overthrow 2021-04-25 12:28:24 

In reply to Barry

Suggest you catch up on your history. Slaves were not severely whipped or tortured to death for singing songs and complying with the wishes of their masters. Despite the known consequences a number ran away seeking relief from an unacceptable life. There were “bounty hunters “ who had hired to retrieve runaways, they did their jobs with vigour for inflicting pain.
You are a TiT, should be aware due to a slave uprising and Tobago and the time it’s took for soldiers to arrive from England to suppress, Tobago then became twinned with T & T.

 
Barry 2021-04-25 13:10:25 

In reply to Overthrow

I think I know history well- I respect the great maroons and I honour the Haitians but tell me about the uprising in Tobago... didn’t make your masters cower... there was no real war except in madame’s bedroom... it’s easy to recreate history even among the vanquished and subservient... confused

 
Barry 2021-04-25 13:13:04 

In reply to Overthrow

Despite the known consequences a number ran away seeking relief from an unacceptable life. There were “bounty hunters “ who had hired to retrieve runaways, they did their jobs with vigour for inflicting pain


They ran off the islands? They didn’t kill them bounty hunters as the maroons did? You be a man now, honey rolleyes razz

 
Barry 2021-04-25 13:16:28 

My kind of people



In 1663, another Maroon faction, led by Juan de Serras, ambushed and killed Lubolo, initiating eight decades of escalating tension with the British, who could not dislodge the Maroons from their mountain fortresses. By 1720, the Maroons took the offensive, mounting raids against British plantations along the base of the mountains. From 1729 to 1739, a state of open warfare existed between the British and the Maroons. The first British governor, Robert Hunter, was frustrated by Jamaica's mountainous terrain, which the Maroon leaders used to their advantage. The Windward Maroons were lead by Captain Quao, while the Leeward Maroons followed Cudjoe, a skilled and ruthless guerilla warrior. Hunter died in 1734, and within five years the British decided that the conflict would have to be resolved through negotiation.

 
Overthrow 2021-04-25 13:18:54 

In reply to Barry

Clearly an attempt to diminish this fact to continue a ridiculous line of spin.

 
Dukes 2021-04-25 13:25:21 

In reply to Barry

Excuse my lack of knowledge but is Pollard the reincarnation of Captain Quao or Cudjoe?

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

 
Barry 2021-04-25 13:30:00 

In reply to Overthrow

I am sure I know the history of oppressed people more than you...
Cite your sources brother
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Barry 2021-04-25 13:31:33 

In reply to Dukes

These were great men... any of you people would be proud not like dum dum Reon King or sellout Hooper wink

 
Barry 2021-04-25 13:35:42 

In reply to Dukes

R. C. Dallas, who wrote his account half a century after Cudjoe lived, claimed the Maroon leader was described short and stout, with a "wildness in his manners
".

Oppressors like yourself always call them wild cool

 
Dukes 2021-04-25 13:40:36 

In reply to Barry

dum dum Reon King or sellout Hooper


Some people are born great( MOST TRINIS) others are born FOOLS (ALL GUYANESE) and others worship Koalemos(YOU)

 
Barry 2021-04-25 13:49:36 

In reply to Dukes

Don’t try to reverse... you wouldn’t give Polly a biscuit and now I cut you, you crying uncle like norm... love Polly as you love Hetty and keemo- they are all equal confused confused confused confused confused

 
sgtdjones 2021-04-25 13:57:26 

In reply to Barry

Jaydee you are up early this morning.

What Rowley wake you up?



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Barry 2021-04-25 14:03:35 

In reply to Dukes

Thanks for the debate, Sir
The fat arse come so I have to go
Socafighter desires to bulleth me confused

 
sgtdjones 2021-04-25 14:09:45 

In reply to Barry

oh poor jaydee/ problemjay/Barry....running when confronted.

lol lol lol

 
Barry 2021-04-25 14:13:07 

In reply to sgtdjones

I want to fight but nobody beats your three inch weapon... killed Jadee ... emasculated Jammy... now you come for me razz

 
sgtdjones 2021-04-25 14:18:50 

In reply to Barry

You are on song jaydee? Keep exposing yourself.

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Overthrow 2021-04-25 14:29:18 

In reply to Barry

Did not realize one had to cite sources of historical fact. Flat earth society here I come.

 
Barry 2021-04-25 14:33:25 

In reply to Overthrow

What you said was no fact... indeed all of history is interpretation influenced by context wink

 
Overthrow 2021-04-25 15:33:39 

In reply to Barry

1 + 1 = 2 sorry incorrect unable to cite source for accuracy lol

 
Overthrow 2021-04-25 15:37:51 

In reply to Brerzerk

I have never seen that particular section in the video, but heard about it from others. I am not surprised this’ statement would come from the individual in question. He was such an unpleasant human.

 
Barry 2021-04-25 15:54:12 

In reply to Overthrow

Reproduce your time tables please big grin

 
Barry 2021-04-25 15:55:17 

In reply to Overthrow

Socafighter lies confused

 
SnoopDog 2021-04-25 16:28:25 

In reply to Barry the Retard

Crofty is still bulling me


Congrats shithead. You deserve it. lol

 
Barry 2021-04-25 16:58:21 

In reply to SnoopDog

Good try... Croft is straight... however he hurt the umpire... cool