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The backdrop from the structure looks so beautiful, picturesque and botanically lush.

Why not rename it the St Lucia Cricket Ground or something, and not take away from this absolute splendor?

I truly bemoan this low standard and hope my Lucian friends agree with me.

I think the Jamaican government should transform that white elephant in Trelawny and call it the Usain Bolt Stadium!

By the way, to the St. Lucians, Darren Sammy is a hero!

You don't have to accomplish much these days to affix your name to anything, ask Trump!

In reply to Wally-1

I agree with you. I thought the name change was stupid and embarrassing then, and I think the name is even more embarrassing now.

A major ground named after an average cricketer. He would not be considered in the top 100 cricketers from the West Indies.

The original name was based on the area and had a bit of intrigue—-a cricket ground with a french name.

In reply to JOJO

I don't agree, it's better it is named after a National Hero than a French Colonialist. However they could have waited a little longer, at least until after Sammy had stopped playing.

In reply to Wally-1

I've only been in St Lucia for twenty minutes as my plane refuelled. But I'll bet the people of St Lucia consider Daren Sammy a national hero. I suspect that is why they named a cricket stadium in honour of him.

In reply to Fivestar

Ok, but why not a stand or a patch of grass? This somehow cheapens our cricket.

In reply to Wally-1

Why don't you go to St Lucia and tell them take down Sammy's name and put in on a patch of grass. Just make sure you take some bodyguards with you.

By the way, does anyone know why they keep zooming in on the big, pastel coloured house above the ground? Is it because it is a beautiful home or does someone important live there?

In reply to Fivestar

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Firstly, sitting on a plane for 20 minutes while it refuels is not considered “visiting” a country. Secondly, you are in no position to bet what the people think. Thirdly, I am St. Lucian

In reply to Fivestar


Dont know but its certainly a beautiful home. Lucians are very nice peeps, no need for bodyguards.

[b]In reply to JOJO[/b

I never stated I visited St Lucia. Just out of curiosity are you for or against the Stadium being named after Daren Sammy.

In reply to Wally-1

It would have been more fitting and dignified to name it the “Fry Fish and Piton Beer Stadium” than after that no talent ass clown.

But I supposed it’s quite appropriate that it is the current home of the abject mediocrity of the current Wondies team.

I too would've preferred another name with Sammy's name on the main pavillion.

However, only Clive Lloyd has matched Sammy's 2 world cup titles so he's indeed a hero

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

This! Some people only see what they want to see!

What ever happen to Mindo Phillips park?

In reply to StumpCam

Some people see Sammy’s mediocre career batting and bowling stats and that fact that he contributed sweet fcuk all to those WC titles other than changing the field and clapping.

In reply to SnoopDog

Despite Sammy's dismal lifetime cricket averages, the St. Lucians have a right to put any name they choose on any of their facilities in their own country. Jamaica with so many sports heroes, it would be almost impossible to put the names of everyone of them on a stadium, but I agree that the stadium in Usain Bolt's parish should be renamed with his name.

Many do not respect Sammy's playing ability, but Sammy was a good ambassador of WI cricket and a good captain, if the St Lucians think he was a good representative of their country they have their right to honor him.

In reply to Fivestar

Isn't it a B & B house or a hotel?

Beau séjour

In reply outfield

I believe Faz mentioned Mindoo Philips Park. He said it was a traditional Caribbean cricket venue situated in the heart of the city.

But while it had character the drainage was very poor. So a lot of playing time was lost due to the soggy outfield after it rained.

There were times when it was a bright, sunny day and yet the players were stuck in the pavilion.

So they decided to look for another location. Now there is Daren Sammy Stadium.

In reply to dayne

Sammy was the recipient and beneficiary of unabashed nepotism and he was Exhibit “A” for the proposition that merit and good performances played no part in West Indies cricket.

But yes, the Lucians have every right to name their stadium after him. As shameful as it is.

Why disparage Sammy’s cricket ability? Totally uncalled for. The topic is about naming the stadium and should stay on that topic.

In reply to Overthrow

Sammy had no cricketing ability.

Johnson Charles is friggin Don Bradman compared to Sammy on the basis of cricketing ability.

Ah, the backhanded statements eh? Nuh wonders why this

Caribbean society, cricketing-wise, is what it is...

In reply to TheTrail

(Winston Churchill voice) “Neva has one no talent ass clown done so little to earn so much” - sums up this topic nicely.

Former West Indies cricket Captain, Daren Sammy OBE, is the newest member of the Cricket West Indies (CWI) Board of Directors following his appointment as an independent non-member director, by the CWI Board at a meeting held last Thursday 17th June 2021.

Like it or not, Sammy have 2 T20 titles.

In reply to SnoopDog

You on song today....

If the People in St. Lucia choose to
name their Stadium , The Darren Sammy
Stadium , that is their Right .

I have not heard that St. Lucians are
complaining about this Issue . The people in St. Lucia have a Right to choose who they want to call the Stadium The Darren Sammy Stadium , that is their inherent Right to do that .

IF THE PEOPLE IN ST.LUCIANS WANT TO

NAME THEIR STADIUM THE DARREN SAMMY

STADIUM , IT IS ASSININE FOR PERSONS

OUTSIDE OF ST. LUCIA TO CRITICIZE

WHAT THE ST. LUCIANS DID.

In reply to POINT

Thank You POINT!!!! Is this not the same Sammy who lead WI to two Championships; Captained a Team to a Championship in the PSL; And now has coached a team to the Final in the PSL!

In reply to POINT

You're right, doesn't change the fact that it cheapens our cricket.

In reply to POINT

Did the people of St. Lucia choose to name the stadium after Sammy?

The vitriol thrown Darren Sammy’s way is unacceptable. He played for WI as an all-rounder and many are of the opinion there were alternate more talented players to fill the role. One is certainly entitled to their opinion and be vociferous about it. Sammy was then appointed captain at a very antagonist period in WI cricket. Again one can voice their displeasure. The decisions were made by those entrusted to do so, we can disagree however as an supporter of WI cricket we should have provided that support he needed. There is no way his skills were as poor as some have professed. I am off the opinion his skills were off test level but his real contribution was leadership in tumultuous times. I grew to respect him over his years, capable all-rounder and exceptional fielder. His character was amazing handling the continuous “hand grenades” he had to deal with. Reading some of posts trashing him is in poor taste. Like him or not his contribution to WI cricket has to be respected.

In some respects the name is fitting. It is a monument to the power of cronyism and self interest that has diminished West Indies cricket. I haven't been anywhere in the world where a player of unquestionable mediocrity is honoured. I understand that the people of St. Lucia have a right to choose but autonomy doesn't exclude them from being judged for a poor decision because it reflects on all those connected to Windies cricket.

In reply to Trinity
Judge as much as you like but I can tell you that the St. Lucian people don't give a shit about your point of view.

What we are concerned about is the contribution that each member of the society has made to elevating our country and in our view 2 world titles and his contributions to our society in other areas is deserving of such an honour. We also believe that it is absolutely appropriate that such an honour be bestowed at a facility constructed mainly for the purpose of hosting cricket matches. Does it irk you that our cricket ground carries the name of a little black boy? Would you prefer to see it named after one of your colonial masters?

We have appropriately honored others who have achieved for our country as well. For example our Nobel laureates have appropriate institutions and facilities named after them in the country.

You see we do not reserve recognition and accolades for the privileged few but we let our people know that they will be recognized for their achievements no matter their backgrounds or what segment of the society they originate from.

I trust that you are able to appreciate your own people in your country.

In reply to WalterWhite

Sorry man but by invoking that passage your complex has come to the fore.
Brother that thought never came to my mind ok.
Black is beautiful chief, so just emancipate your mind, or at least make an attempt to.

Ignore the complexities of decision making at your peril.

In reply to Courtesy


You're more hilarious than Hillarie's bad decisions.

You may have hit some raw nerves WalterWhite. You may have also upset many with your perception of their views. Please continue with your honest thoughts.

In reply to Wally-1

I believe firmly that such decisions are sacrosanct and while you may not be out of place to venture a comment on the choice of naming the ground, it is downright stooopid to so do with such contempt. Leave that to the purview of we natives.

And I would hate to label you as fast and rude.

Our perspective is all that matters as regards the naming of the cricket ground.

It seems to me that this guy Darren Sammy is not well-liked on this message board.

And it is more prevalent since he became an independent director. Did he steal someone's birthright?

Why is there such malice towards this one guy?

My goodness.

In reply to Wally-1
If you see it as a "complex" for me to point out your clear disdain (without cause I might add) for someone revered in my community then so be it. I will gladly embrace that.

You suggest that I need to be "emancipated" but let me tell you, I know many people who claim to be emancipated however when you take a closer look they are far from being emancipated in their actions. That word is just fluff, said to try to convince people that they have moved on from their colonial past. These people lavish praise and support for others outside of their community while they belittle their own people. Why do you think many had to leave this region to find success?

I believe it is in actions that real emancipation needs to happen not just in words.

In reply to TheTrail

sammy and otis

In reply to Courtesy

I'm a Windian native reiterating the folly of cheapening of our rich history.

In reply to Wally-1

What about Dudus Coke? Did you express the same sentiments?

Convenient, N'it?

In reply to WalterWhite

Walter come on brother you're off topic, we are merely debating the blemish of the naming of the stadium.

In reply to Courtesy

Who is that?

In reply to Wally-1

Says who?...not those who matter.

In reply to Wally-1

I thought so.

In reply to Wally-1

100 % in agreement

In reply to Wally-1

It all ties in my brother.

In reply to Courtesy

And that there is the key point. We don't need validation from anyone outside of our community in these matters.

In reply to Courtesy

Is that all? My response was meant to remind you that we're discussing cricket.
Or Could it be you're implying that Sammy is a criminal?

In reply to WalterWhite

Our community in this sense is WI.

In reply to Wally-1
You were the one who broadened it into the realm of: "I'm a Windian native reiterating the folly of cheapening of our rich history."

Does "our" rich history only encompass cricket?

In the interest of safeguarding your integrity and maintaining consistency you should rage against everything which in your words "cheapens our rich history."

Any pray tell how does naming a cricket ground after a country's most successful cricketer cheapen our history?

This is a very proud country with two Nobel laureates which never opposed the naming of the ground after Darren Sammy...and that alone matters.

There is no room for willful ignorance on such matters from non-nationals.

In reply to Wally-1

Huh?? You must be crazy.
Not when it comes to the naming of a ground brought and paid for by the government and people of St. Lucia!

In reply to Courtesy

The theme, topic, subject, issue, related matter is cricket and the naming of a stadium.

Don't blame me for not being fully able to understand context.

I'm sure there are criminal elements in St Lucia like other Caribbean Islands, this thread is not about them.
If it was it would've been started in the other room.

In reply to Wally-1

Mate, perhaps you can elucidate on your real agenda for starting this thread? I am at a lost.

How does naming a cricket ground after a national take away from its splendor?

I would hate to believe that you will take issue with a country naming one of it's cricket grounds after one of its nationals and that is cheapening West Indies cricket history and makes this your raison d'etre for this thread.

The previous cricket ground (Mindoo Phillip Park, originally Victoria ParK) was named after a cricketer who never played for West Indies. Where is/was your outrage or is there an outrage?

In any comparative analysis Darren Sammy outshines Mindoo Phillip.

Mindoo Phillip contributed immensely to the game in Saint Lucia and a cricket ground was rightfully and appropriately named after him. So too is Darren Sammy.

Btw, Saint Lucia has a rich history of naming sporting facilities after local personalities who have excelled in their sporting disciplines.

History is replete with examples of nations naming facilities, landmarks, buildings etc, after their nationals whether you know them, like them endorse them or not.


And to conclude, it is pretentious of you and downright rude, to start a thread because your fantasies have not been quenched as well as faux outrage:

Hawk spit!!!!

In reply to Courtesy
Boss that's just my opinion, and that's what it is.
By the way, I am not seeking to disparage my Lucian friends, as I have so many, I'm just highlighting decisions which I think are bad and unmerited.

In reply to Wally-1

I will back you on the right to express your opinion. I also have a right to a full scale salvo of your opinion.

In reply to Courtesy

That's low and uncouth man, try for a minute to suppress your real self.

In reply to Wally-1

In the same vein as your trash thread. When you learn to accept and respect such decisions made by my country I will tone down. Have respect for a country's domestic agenda.

In reply to dayne I agree 100 per cent. And it's 100 per cent better than the lack of initiative shown by the Guyana authorities and the bland, characterless "Providence Stadium" with its Orange Stands, Blue Stands, No-name Ends etc.

In reply to Courtesy

Respect, man do I have to school you on what respect is? Listen
brother your level of tolerance for dissenting opinions says a lot about you. Expressed disagreements don't mean disrespect, what it sounds like is that I hit a nerve called guilt.

In reply to Wally-1
This ground is in St.Lucia, not Jamaica, Barbados or any other Island in the region, naming a cricket ground in St.Lucia after Sammy, shows respect to the people of St. Lucia.
Wally, you are out of Line.
It is like you telling Barbados or any other Island, the names to place on arenas.

In reply to Wally-1

Guilty about what?

Should I be guilty that Saint Lucian authorities named a cricket ground after my countryman?

This is so asinine of you. Man, think before you post crap. Why should I be guilty...guilty about what? Pray tell.

Man remove that visceral dislike of Darren Sammy. Let it go...this is not healthy.

In reply to Osmond

Look I believe that many so called Cricket Lovers in the Region , do not
respect or are fond of Players from
the Windward Islands .

HELL IF THE PEOPLE IN ST. LUCIA HAVE

DECIDED TO NAME THE STADIUM AFTER

DARREN SAMMY THAT IS THEIR RIGHT !!!!

Those who are not St. Lucians need
to Shut The Hell Up . St. Lucians have an inherent Right to name the
Stadium after who They want !!!!!!

I HAVE NOT READ OR HEARD THAT THE

PEOPLE IN ST. LUCIA , ARE CRITICAL

OF THAT DECISION .

In reply to Osmond

There are in this Forum many People
who dislike Darren Sammy . This Post
has enabled them to make Fools of themselves .

The People in St. Lucia have an inherent Right to name the Stadium
The Darren Sammy Stadium .

I have not heard or seen that the People in St. Lucia are displeased
with the Government naming the Stadium after Darren Sammy .

THE STADIUM IS IN ST. LUCIA , AND

DARREN SAMMY IS A ST. LUCIAN , AND

EVIDENTLY ST. LUCIANS APPROVE OF

THE DECISION BY THE GOVERNMENT .

In my opinion those who are not St.Lucians need to Shut The Hell Up
regarding what the Government of
St.Lucia does .

In reply to POINT

You're so point blank redundant by stating the obvious when no one is making an argument to the contrary.

The argument being made is that the
Darren Sammy Stadium acquired it's name by the method of very low threshold.

In reply to Wally-1

Agree. He is not too old to play yet he is not good enough to be selected to any international side or even a club team.

In reply to Wally-1

Yes of course because you are intimately aware of process involved in selecting the name.

To all and sundry Daren Sammy is not a national hero. St Lucians were happy though to have a SLU cappo for a West Indies team.

Many did/do not support the entire ground being nsme in his honour.

In reply to WalterWhite

Not attempting to speak for the poster—but I think the issue is not the process but the achievements. Sammy will not be considered in the top 100 players from the region. He was still young enough to play but was not good enough to get into a regional team and could not even get into a franchise team. Yet, the only national stadium is named in his honor.

In reply to JOJO

What is the threshold or being young enough or too old to play? Isn't that a very personal thing..some people's bodies hold up much better than others. Some guys can play till they're 45 and some can't. From the time Sammy stopped bowling in T20...I kinda figured he developed some injury that prevented him from bowling. That said..its not your call to make. The guy was captain to T20 world cup winning teams. That alone counts for something. He has also been captain to finalist and T20 champions in Pakistan.

Grenada has stands named after Rawl and Junior and you know what..at the very least it may inspire some young kid that they can play at the highest level whether they set the world alight or not.

Making it to the world stage is a big achievement especially when no one before you in your community has made it thus far. The constant need to belittle Sammy has NOTHING to do with his cricketing ability for many posters here. It is simply based on people feeling that he needed to be joined at the hip with guys who made PERSONAL choices about how they wanted to run their professional careers to maximize their earnings.

The pettiness has clouded judgments in many cases. I've been on this board long enough to see guys belittle his test century in England...belittle his 'heroics' when he helped Bravo to win ODIs against New Zealand after he was stripped of the captaincy.

You may have your own reasons..but I can tell you...guys like Wally will NEVER give Sammy a fair shake. Its quite sad that big hardback man can still carry so much baggage over somebody who doesn't even know he exists. For crying out loud why does he even care what St Lucians decide to do to recognize their people?? There may be considerations in there about his service to nation in other areas that go along with his cricket.

In reply to Cheeks

But Cheeks why mention that, isn't that different ?

In reply to JOJO

Are you saying that performances on the field should be the only consideration in naming a ground after an individual? Were you happy with the naming of the George Odlum stadium? I know he was a sportsman but not near the top in terms of sporting achievements. There are many grounds named after administrators and politicians do you see a problem with that?

Isn't popular support among the people more important in naming a ground? As St. Lucians are we not entitled to our own criteria? I am positive that if a survey is conducted now you will find that most St. Lucians have no problem with naming the ground after Sammy. I think you are in the minority my friend.

In reply to Wally-1

Well extending your logic about perceptions of achievement somebody may say that based on Rawl's test bowling average he doesn't even deserve a stand? Grenadians should have a right to tell that person butt out..because there may be other considerations.

In reply to Cheeks

This!


And this!

In reply to Cheeks

Or simply, perhaps he wanted to and was not good enough to continue?

BTW, I see lots of posts about what Lucians want. I am St. Lucian. I know lots of St. Lucians who were not or are not in favor of having the only national stadium named after Sammy. A stand, yes…but not the stadium.

I also consider myself a West Indian and will not defend an issue simply because i think that my “Lucianness” or a fellow Windward islander is being attacked. The op may have his own reasons; that’s up to him.

In reply to JOJO

May be so..I don't think it matters nor do I really care. Great fighters have been 'embarrassed' into retirement.




I fully respect that...people have individual opinions ...hey ..almost 50% percent of the USA electorate voted for Trump.


I'm also sure there are as many or even more who are quite fine with it.



This is nothing to do with where I am from ..I am saying I leave the Lucian authorities to navigate their own political climate and make their own decisions. Of course I can speculate as to their reasoning or lack thereof if I want...but at the end of the day I accept that my view is limited.

In reply to Cheeks

Five thumbs up to you sah...as usual, delivered with respect, passion, dignity and with such learned and cerebral authority.

A country's sovereignty has got to be respected.

The pretext of this thread is mind boggling.

In reply to JOJO

Exactly sah, and one can hardly make a point and not be condemned as a Lucian, Windward, etc. hater.
Man I have so many Lucian brethrens it's not funny.

In reply to Wally-1

Yes...you are like a white racist who has several black friends.

..................................

You still don't get it. I have never made a case here for Sammy cricketing abilities or lack thereof.

I am slicing and dicing your blatant disrespect for our country's sovereignty. In case you did not know perhaps out of ignorance, - a country has a right to decide these matters freely and they are considered sacrosanct.

Further, there is much hatred to be gleaned from the pretext of your thread. It is asinine if I am permitted to to use a euphemism. It's akin to spot a hater.

I hope I have brought clarity to your offensive, rude and if I may say ignorant perspective that obviously motivated you to start this thread..

I don't understand why you are pursuing this matter other than concluding that it's the result of a visceral hate for another human being for which you have demonstrated a penchant pellucidly here in the past.

Please allow Saint Lucians to fret about the naming of their cricket ground or any other similar matter. This particular Saint Lucian business should never concern you.

Stay in your section.

In reply to Wally-1

The pot calling the kettle black.

OMG.... I cant believe the above statement its it something he practises on this site.

In reply to JOJO

The first and only cricketer from St. Lucia to represent the West Indies in test cricket.

The first and only St. Lucian to captain the West Indies in any form of cricket. Captained the team in all 3 formats.

The first and only West Indian to lead his team to not only one but 2 WORLD T20 titles.

One of only two West Indians to lead his team to a WORLD cricket title.

Lead franchise teams in India and Pakistan. Won T20 titles as captain in Pakistan.

Numerous philanthropic pursuits in St. Lucia.

Are these not sufficient accomplishments to warrant his name being placed on a cricket ground?

That question is for Jojo and the other Lucians here. I think the others got the message that they need to stay out of our business.

In reply to JOJO
"A major ground named after an average cricketer. He would not be considered in the top 100 cricketers from the West Indies.
U forgot to add: An average cricketer who led WI to two T20 WC.
What I can't fathom, even though Sammy is not playing for the WI anymore, the vile haters R still picking at any excrement they can latch onto.
NASTY VILE HUMAN PRETENDERS!
💩💩🤯😞🤮

There are certain things you just have to let go.

In reply to Courtesy

Indeed.

As we grow older and life unfolds you kinda learn some lessons about letting stuff go. Especially hatred for another human being...especially sports personalities.

The turning point for me was when I stopped supporting LA Lakers for a couple days because they acquired Lebron. At the time I had some struggles with Lebron..but then I realized ..hey the greatest players are typically quite polarizing AND Lebron was doing exactly what some posters here wanted for Windies cricket..ie more player power to do what they want. I asked myself...boy...why???? Anyways.. I digress..the point is I realized it was pointless to be carrying feelings for professional sportsmen. Enjoy the games and move on.

But here we have a grown ass man poking his nose in St Lucia's business because of hatred that he can't let go. Any perceived opportunity to belittle the guy is grabbed..if that is not hatred..then I don't know what is.

In reply to WalterWhite

Ding ding!!!
I wish I could make the above a sticky to burn the hatred out of some hearts.

In reply to Cheeks

As always Cheeks, you are a font of wisdom.

In reply to Cheeks
Thank you Sir. Some of us choose to stand up against the hatred for Sammy.

In reply to WalterWhite

The Vivian Richards Stadium has a very nice ring to it, doesn't it?
Why, please explain?

In reply to WalterWhite

That alone should put this thread to rest

In reply to Wally-1

Dude, let it go

In reply to Wally-1

Standards Wally...Using St. Lucian Standards alone, Sammy should get a stadium named after him.

I understand honoring him by naming stands after him, but in my opinion Sammy should not have the entire ground named after him. Sammy was an average cricketer who was lucky other West Indian Cricketers performed well to win matches without him having to perform.

At the end of the day the St. Lucians are free to choose whoever they want. It will be up to them to explain why.

In reply to Trex

Exactly right and as I stated, that's not the issue.

In reply to Wally-1

Now think seriously for once on this pretext above and tell me what who honestly think about it. And while you're at it pray tell your motive for starting such a thread?

IMHO, this is as emotive as one can get and quite frankly crass in every sense of the word.


You subconsciously gave it away with the above. This says it all and it amounts to unadulterated hate for Darren Sammy and perhaps jealousy.

I will never comment if Jamaica named a garbage dump after you...NEVER. It's not my section in the band and I'll be completely out of place to so do.

In reply to Courtesy

The Ass kicking we got at the ground recently, on reflection I said, but what do you expect Wally, just look at the name of the stadium.
Our standards and expectations have really plummeted over the past couple decades.

In reply to Wally-1

Our standards? What are the standards for a country naming institutions or places? I hope it's weighted in favour of the acceptability by its population.

This is more crassness from you.

Your motive: Can you believe this? An individual starts a thread complaining about the nomenclature of a cricket ground after one of its outstanding citizens, because the West Indies lost a test series badly at that ground. I question the sanity of the poster in that regard.

From whose perspective and contributes to "low standards" from a naming perspective by a country? Since when Saint Lucia is lumped with other countries to determine local standards. And since when you are the judge of what's good for Saint Lucia.

"Beauty is always in the eyes of the beholder."

Every time you post you are digging a deeper hole defending this shit thread with your ulterior motives which are quite evident.

In reply to Courtesy

Mate you appropriately handled the detractors.


May I ask, was Learie Constantine inducted into the cricket hall of fame for his mediocre exploits on the field of play?

In reply to InHindsight

Thank you Sir.

When anyone steps on Saint Lucia's hallowed grounds they will receive similar treatment.

As a matter of interest, do you comment negatively on the naming of any institution or place in any territory, do you?

In reply to Courtesy

l know and let me tell you, St Lucia is very pristine and beautiful, not to mention it's people. But I understand, the best in the world err sometimes.

In reply to Courtesy

Absolutely not!!!

Have never, will never!

I wouldn't display such ignorance

In reply to Wally-1

Thank for letting us know that you are the sole judge of what's the best in the world.

More shit.

And FYI the naming of the cricket ground after Darren Sammy has absolutely nothing to do with "the best in the world." for which you are the sole judge.

It has everything to do with Darren's achievements as a local cricketer which are unsurpassed as well as his numerous philanthropic activities.

What if Jamaica had named one of it's garbage sites after you or Danny Germs, would I be complaining?...HELL NO.

In reply to Courtesy

But you could and have a nice healthy debate.

In reply to Wally-1

This discourse can never be healthy. The trend was set when you started this filthy thread.

Hawk!!! spit.

In reply to Courtesy

Let me try to regain some decency and respectability to this post LOL.

The latest data on Municipal Solid Waste generation shows St. Lucia overall as one of the largest per capita generator of Municipal Waste in the world. The information, gathered and published by the World Bank, shows St. Lucia in 8th position, generating a total of 4.35 kg of waste per person per day. This amount is nearly 9 times more than the best performer in the Latin American and Caribbean region Bolivia and more than two times that of US citizens.
St. Lucia was however outperformed in sheer waste generation by Barbados, Guyana, St. Kitts and Nevis and Antigua and Barbuda who racked up 4.75, 5.33, 5.45 and 5.50 kilograms per day respectively. The report also showed lackluster efforts at recycling despite the limited land-space available for storing waste on the island. Caribbean Republic Trinidad and Tobago was ranked as the worst offender in the world with a whopping 14.4 kg of waste per person per day.

Currently, the Saint Lucia Solid Waste Management Authority (SLSWMA) is processing some 80,000 tons of garbage through the country’s two refuse operation; Deglos sanitary landfill and Vieux Fort’s solid waste management facility.

How one St. Lucian put his name on garbage and became wealthy, from Waste to Wealth: LOL

It’s not easy convincing companies to care about their waste but Saint Lucian entrepreneur Wayne Neale is doing just that. Managing Director of waste management and recycling firm Greening the Caribbean, Neale is helping the private sector set an example by introducing environmentally friendly practices that are good for the earth, and companies’ bottom line.

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In reply to Slipfeeler
The thread is quickly losing it's theme, don't know why my friend's ventured into garbage pits, but I'm not going with them.
I'm sticking to the subject matter of the naming of the stadium.

In reply to Wally-1

They are trying to create a smoke screen since they couldn't convince you that Sammy deserves a stadium named after him. If only they could convince themselves..

If I wanted to solicit a response from garbage I would have named names or sent special invitations. But they appeared anyway. Hello garbage.

In reply to Slipfeeler

you are the garbage expert it seems

Good for you mate, everybody must eat

In reply to Cuter

Did you read that post?

A word of advice: everything this man post is garbage...don't waste your time.

In reply to Courtesy

I know you are ridiculous enough to chastise the messenger, this was written and reported by one of your reputable journalists in your own country...embrace your garbage

In reply to Slipfeeler

Disingenuous you that. In defense of Courtesy that is the perview of a Lucian on Lucian affairs. Not for you and yuh crabbery

In reply to InHindsight

I fail to comprehend why these (starts with F) can't understand that this is purely an internal matter.

The pretext of the thread says it all.

Once a man twice a child aptly describes some the hateful ol farts here. Darren Sammy Stadium in allyuh pokey. I won't be too sad if you get a headache everytime you contemplate it.

Lifted two worldcups.

WARNING: DO NOT LOOK IF YOU ARE A HATER

Next up...a Pakistani stadium to be named in his honor.

Don't look at this either

In reply to Cheeks

What does that have to do with the standards of WI cricket and the naming of a Stadium.

Pak. is eager to give back, recognize and to reward Sammy's support during their troubled times.

Nothing to do with quality cricketing acumen.

In reply to Wally-1

You are trying to tell the St Lucians what their criteria must be for naming their stadium. You think it must only be about individual results/ stats as a player...they think otherwise.

You don't get it and will most likely never get it. Blinded by hatred. That's your issue ...not mine.

Interesting you use the word 'acumen' though. Do you realize that you are actually defeating your own non-argument??

In reply to Cheeks

Wally1 has now sought solace under the wings of a newfound fraud. Do you think he does not get it? He does but his hatred for Darren Sammy gets in the way.

Your posts are beginning to bear down on him.

In reply to Cheeks

I expected better from you Mr Cheeks.

In reply to Cheeks

I am sure you expected that WallyI would understand the concept of sovereignty and that he should never insert himself criticizing such matters under the pretext of "low standards" and that WallyI cannot decide standards for an island nation?

Whose standards?

But he expects better of you and he fraudulently did say why?

You have done something wonderful Cheeks defending a country's right to decide upon such matters...you have exposed his subterfuge.

In reply to Wally-1

Wally remember you are trodding on sacred ground .

In reply to Wally-1

You are joking rite? Such is an impossibility when debating a control freak, you will seek such indications.Belittling will start.



Just as I suspected , vocabulary limited to two words as highlighted about.
Tells of one upbringing, parents would be so proud their chest would be bigger than the Pitons.
One of the most difficult animals to adhere to reason with is a jackarse, my grandfather had one , it almost kicked and bit me.
It also had a vocabulary of two words. Grandpa finally took it out of its misery and shot it , a safety protocol for the village.

Such are not allowed with humans.

In reply to sgtdjones

Hawk!! spit.

And I will own up to my limited vocabulary.

If only you could give up ownership of a cut and paste deck that you were so adroitly exposed by poster bravos.

Deal with that...I hope you have by now exhausted your 10K bet excuse and subterfuge. I do not bet with frauds.

In reply to Courtesy

I'm trying to work with you boss but your reasoning ability is gaunted.

Get this, no sovereign nation in the world is beyond criticism.

Your virulent instincts have placed you in this state of tirade and frenzy simply because you don't handle criticism well.

In reply to Wally-1

Aren't you missing something in the the generality above? Get back to me.

It lacks a quality "...in the narrow track of naming places and institutions after its nationals."

Your credibility is questioned after posting the above.... a chameleon



Its good to know the above, naw I still have the 10k US .....two cowards didn't accept the challenge?

I wonder why, since they were so confident.....lol



You have a good day old man....dont get your blood pressure up

bye

In reply to sgtdjones

Get fucking lost fraud. I have wasted too much time on a reputable fraud.

Go talk to someone else. Fraud.

In reply to Wally-1

The above is impossible with gutter dwellers, you deserve a medal for trying.Good luck

In reply to Courtesy

Lol


You need help, the generality covers my criticism of that low standard decision.

In reply to Wally-1

I noted on a few threads his obsessive compulsion indication.

Please don't destroy the self proclaimed pseudo intellectual

His comments provide me with daily laughter.

In reply to Wally-1

Aren't you being disingenuous?

Try understanding this: "Get this, no sovereign nation in the world is beyond criticism"...except in the narrow track of naming places and institutions after its nationals."

Let me avoid making it so esoteric for you: You should stay well away from criticizing any nation when it makes decisions on naming its places and institutions after its nationals.

In other words, members of the committee who took the decision would ask: who the fuck is WallyI?

If you cannot understand this...sorry, I cannot help you.

In reply to Courtesy

Bullcrap.

I could've taken it a step further and remind you that sovereignty in this context belongs to the WI, which becomes every Windian's business.

In reply to Wally-1

Why are you so fucking foolish?

Since when West Indies cricket has jurisdiction over the naming of Saint Lucia's cricket ground?

Man stop making a fool of yourself.

Bye...you are ill-skilled...

As has been stated numerous times you are simply not allowed to meddle in the internal affairs of another country. The naming of facilities is one of those internal affairs and this nonsense about "sovereignty in this context belongs to the WI" sounds to me like someone pulling something out of you know where when they have been caught.

In reply to WalterWhite

The idea of a big man believing and arguing that a country should not name an institution after one of its national cricketers who has achieved world acclaim and who rose from humble beginnings and now heads philanthropic organizations is mind boggling.

Can you believe this?

It's akin to telling me country should not name an institution after a slave.

The message I am sure that the government wants to send is this: you can come from from humble beginnings but can achieve much and we will recognize your efforts.

..........................

What a mindset to have and his comment in last post clearly demonstrates how intellectually bankrupt he is.

What a premise to justify some bullshit.

In reply to Trex

What hypocrisy!
Y left out the Sir?
It is "the Sir Vivian Richards Stadium!
Or because U don't agree with Antigua bestowing it's title on its sovereign citizen U selectively choose to leave it out?
Very NASTY!

In reply to Courtesy

Lash dem suh!
U C how they R selectively leaving out the Sir from the the Sir Vivian Richards
Stadium?
Seriously, I'm absolutely surprise that Wally would endorse this thread.

In reply to tops

Vivi is well deserving of any reward, accolade, title, monument, or Stadium named in his honor boss.

I purposely, excluded "Sir" because I personally don't hold that British title in high stead. Wasn't meant as a discount to his greatness.

Vivian Issac Richards epitomizes the highest of cricket standards and when we see that name displayed on any erected structure anywhere, we can hold our heads high as a cricketing conglomerate.

In reply to Overthrow

You need to understand that for many years Players from the Windward Islands
despite their Performances , were not
considered to be capable to represent
The West Indies .

THIS WAS WITHOUT GETTING AN

OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THEIR SKILLS .

QUITE FRANKLY IN MY OPINION , NOT

A BLASTED THING HAS CHANGED .

In reply to tops

Is that a higher category of citizenship?

In reply to camos

Maybe it's like when Americans say "American people."

In reply to Wally-1

That exactly the point being made to. You don't have that prerogative.

The more you "beat/flog the dead horse" the more foolish it sounds.

Quit already bro.

very low hurdle, St Lucia cricket will get better soon,what yo do then,build more stadiums!

In reply to InHindsight

lol

This thread is about my point of view, it hasn't changed.

Unfortunately some here don't raspect dissenting viewpoints. I wonder why.