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Technically...

 
Courtesy 2021-07-05 12:55:24 

...we are not where we should be in batting and not even close...pace or spin.

Those of us looking for success from the current crop of batsman must come down to earth with reality.

Further, our brains trust refuse to deal with the foundational requirements of cricket in the region.

Let us not delude ourselves into believing that this team has even a moderate chance of winning the T20 World Cup.

Our problems are too many and our ability to get them right is vitually non-existent.

 
Courtesy 2021-07-05 12:57:39 

Problem identification - devising a plan of action - implementation- and evaluation.

 
natty_forever 2021-07-05 13:29:06 

In reply to Courtesy

I disagree. We can win. How did we win the last 2?

 
Halliwell 2021-07-05 14:10:18 

In reply to Courtesy

Nobody even suggested we’d come close to winning either of the T20 World Cups

If it wasn’t for D Smith, Marlon, Marlon, Badree, Braff they would be as right as you

 
sudden 2021-07-05 14:16:01 

In reply to Courtesy
there is some suggestion that we were experimenting to find the right combination for the WC.

my question is, why didnt we do that during the SL series?

 
Halliwell 2021-07-05 14:47:27 

In reply to sudden

I thought we definitely did that

 
JamMack 2021-07-05 15:58:56 

In reply to Courtesy

The key to resolving any problem is to involve the right people.

 
doosra 2021-07-05 16:12:27 

In reply to Courtesy

I have a question for you - which WI cricketer has improved over the last 5 - 10 years

i was thinking Roach but he has gotten to a point and he is there...he is not a killer...he can win you a game here and there...

Gabriel improved a little then didn't go further...

Darren Bravo - no
Hope - no
Chase - not really
Hety - not really
Alzarri - not really


i can say Roach was always where he is or just a wee bit better and Gabriel started poorly and so his improvements just took him to just ok

So technically no one smile

So

 
sudden 2021-07-05 16:42:30 

In reply to doosra

what up, partner?

tell me, what is the difference between no and not really in your post above?

 
Courtesy 2021-07-05 16:45:47 

In reply to doosra

I agree. The logical step forward is to find out why are we churning out technically deficient cricketers?

 
Courtesy 2021-07-05 16:47:37 

In reply to sudden

here is some suggestion that we were experimenting to find the right combination for the WC.

my question is, why didnt we do that during the SL series?

In the words of Stevie Wonder: "nothing from nothing leaves nothing."

 
SnoopDog 2021-07-05 16:47:39 

In reply to sudden

tell me, what is the difference between no and not really in your post above?


If I may have a go?

No = Kelly Ann Conway

Not really = One a dem skanky Kardashians

 
sudden 2021-07-05 16:49:48 

In reply to SnoopDog

in other words, no difference big grin

 
SnoopDog 2021-07-05 16:50:20 

In reply to sudden

in other words, no difference


Right you are! big grin

 
sudden 2021-07-05 16:51:05 

In reply to SnoopDog

Doosie is a smart lad then big grin

 
SnoopDog 2021-07-05 16:53:55 

In reply to sudden

Doosie is a smart lad then


That is a known known, as oppose to an unknown known or unknown unknown. lol

 
sudden 2021-07-05 16:58:43 

In reply to SnoopDog

That is a known known, as oppose to an unknown known or unknown unknown


or a known unknown

 
Drapsey 2021-07-05 19:10:57 

In reply to doosra

I have a question for you - which WI cricketer has improved over the last 5 - 10 years

Aren't you overlooking Blackwood and Bonner?

Blackwood was out in the wilderness, but returned as WI's first ever substitute batsman and has since gone on to take up the coveted VC position.

Bonner, after being on the periphery for an eternity, finally got himself into the fold.

For me, those two qualify as having improved.

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2021-07-05 20:34:29 

In reply to Drapsey

Does Mayers count

 
Drapsey 2021-07-05 20:38:02 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Does Mayers count

Actually, Mayers has gone in the opposite direction. He started with a bang and then fizzled.

We're all hoping, for our sake and more so his, that he rebounds.

 
sudden 2021-07-05 20:56:31 

In reply to Drapsey

When did he fizzle?

 
Drapsey 2021-07-05 21:17:09 

In reply to sudden

Since he debuted with a double.

That was some 12 at bats ago. cool

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2021-07-05 21:36:23 

In reply to Drapsey

and Blackwood continues to shine?

 
Drapsey 2021-07-05 21:39:22 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

Read.

Read my first post.

I have every confidence that you know the difference(s) between climax and anti-climax, progression and regression.

 
sudden 2021-07-05 22:20:34 

In reply to Drapsey

Ok suh big grin

 
problemjay 2021-07-06 04:01:37 

T20 cricket is a roller coaster ride type cricket with far less strategy than ODI and of course test cricket. If your best voopers can voop better than opposing team best voopers you stand a chance of being better the vooping team to win on that day. We can go far in the T20 world cup

 
Courtesy 2021-07-06 13:44:23 

We saw one West Indian vooper hit a first ball for six and missed the other five.

This is as good in terms of productivity as playing no risk sensible cricket taking singles.

There are other significant benefits of rotating the strike...but no need to explain this to non-discerning posters...waste of time.

That vooper in question looked like an ass in the end.

 
Halliwell 2021-07-06 13:49:01 

In reply to Courtesy

There was zero risk in that first shot
It should have been 12!

‘Same’ productivity smile

 
Courtesy 2021-07-06 13:50:56 

In reply to Halliwell

I repeat:

There are other significant benefits of rotating the strike...but no need to explain this to non-discerning posters...waste of time.

 
Halliwell 2021-07-06 13:54:07 

In reply to Courtesy

Nice

 
Drapsey 2021-07-06 16:02:49 


I know a current (available) WI player, Hope, who is very good at strike rotation. So good in fact that he even called out Gayle sometime ago about his inability to do likewise.

It's a pity that Hope is not a constant in our teams across all formats.

 
POINT 2021-07-06 17:07:29 

In my opinion , many here are akin to
Dogs barking up a Tree .

CRICKET IN THE REGION AINT GOING TO

IMPROVE UNTIL OR UNLESS THERE IS A

TOTAL RESTRUCTURING OF THE WICBC/CWI.

Change Must start from the Top Down ,
not from the Bottom up . The WICBC/CWI
for many years now with regard to our Players those in governance of West Indies Cricket have adhered to the same attitude of those who formed the WICBC , and were of a different pigmentation than Our Players .

UNTIL THAT ASSININE ATTITUDE IS

STOPPED CRICKET IN THE REGION WILL

BE AKIN TO SPINNING A TOP IN MUD !!!!

This behaviour is upholded by many of
the Frauds in the Region who masquerade as Sports Journalists .

MICHAEL HOLDING WAS NOT TRAINED TO BE

A SPORTS JOURNALIST ; BUT HE MAKES

A HELL OF A LOT MORE SENSE IN HIS

WRITINGS THAN THE FRAUDS WHO

MASQUERADE AS SPORTS JOURNALISTS .

Unless or until those in the Region
become critical of The Worst International Cricket Board in the
Commonwealth WE will be akin to
Running Very Fast , but Finding
Ourselves in the Same Freaking Place!!!!!

THE Salient Question is This :

WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THOSE REPORTS

THAT THE WICBC/CWI COMMISSIONED ?????

If there were credible Sports Journalist in the Region , THEY would
have asked that Salient Question .

The fact that THEY have not done that
informs me that They are not only Frauds . They are Stooges of the WICBC/CWI .

 
Walco 2021-07-06 17:18:41 

In reply to Drapsey
Hope is not good at rotating the strike in ODIs. But he is great at playing beautiful drives directly to fielders and accumulating dot balls.

 
natty_forever 2021-07-06 21:15:13 

In reply to Drapsey

Maybe because cricket is played on the field and not in your mouth.

 
tc1 2021-07-06 21:58:14 

In reply to Walco

Walco, we were taught from the time we start playing to place the ball in the gap.
it was the basic for batting.

 
Rascalp 2021-07-07 03:50:32 

In reply to Courtesy
Correct and to the point.However I do think there has been an improvement in the shorter formats...ODI and T20.The test record is dreadful...and the SA tests were a reality check.Dont think changing captains was a good idea either for Brathwaite in particular.I worry about the impact the burden of cappo will affect his batting.