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Why is cricket no longer at the Olympics?

 
culpepperboy 2021-07-29 13:17:19 

And you have 2 forms of baseball, 2 forms of volleyball, 2 forms of basketball, skateboarding...

 
TriniStar 2021-07-29 14:38:10 

How would a West Indies team play at an Olympics? Under what flag?

What format of Cricket will work and be suitable for Olympics?

How many cities in the world that would bid for an Olympics will have appropriate Cricket venues, appropriate cricket pitches?

Now doh get me wrong I would wish to see Cricket in the Olympics being from the Caribbean but these questions have to be answered so the idea can be a feasible one.

 
problemjay 2021-07-29 14:50:31 

In reply to TriniStar

I would say in the case of Olympics there will be no West Indies team, each Caribbean country will be competing on their own and their will be no England or Wales team but instead a Great Britain team. Should not be any issues because the scores that happen during Olympics will not be classified as International Cricket.

No different from T&T playing India in a T20 fete match. It wont be an International cricket match and regardless what happens the game stats will not be recorded as International cricket but I bet a lot of people will be watching considering the stars involved on both sides big grin

The only format that will work considering the length of time per match will be T20 cricket

As for cricket pitches these countries have the money man. If they want to host Olympics and Cricket is an Olympic sport they will develop the pitches and infrastructure needed for them to win the bid to host

 
Halliwell 2021-07-29 14:56:49 

In reply to problemjay

The Caribbean nations will be the losers if cricket is played at the Olympics
Go it alone Trinidad won’t be able to beat Fiji

 
Jumpstart 2021-07-29 15:00:41 

In reply to culpepperboy

because cricket is a serious sport and the Olympics are turning into a glorified reality show

 
ray 2021-07-29 23:16:35 

In reply to Jumpstart


true

 
problemjay 2021-07-29 23:35:26 

In reply to Jumpstart

because cricket is a serious sport and the Olympics are turning into a glorified reality show


lol just tell us the truth. you still mad dey did not cancel they Olympics because of Covid lol

 
problemjay 2021-07-29 23:37:32 

In reply to Halliwell

The Caribbean nations will be the losers if cricket is played at the Olympics
Go it alone Trinidad won’t be able to beat Fiji


Lets invite Fiji to the CPL and we shall see if your well thought through scientific theory holds weight

 
culpepperboy 2021-07-29 23:39:10 

In reply to Jumpstart

You might be partially correct. I heard a women's beach handball team was fined for not wearing bikinis.

 
culpepperboy 2021-07-29 23:45:36 

In reply to TriniStar

The regional teams would play as individual countries.
ODI format.
4 groups of 4 teams.

Soccer stadia can be converted for cricket.

Drop in pitches could be used.

 
problemjay 2021-07-29 23:50:22 

In reply to culpepperboy

Bro NO Olympic sports event is going to be an ALL DAY event to decide one game between two winners. Will not work for Olympics fans around the world, will not work for television, will not work for broadcasting rights. So ODI format will not work. And if it will not work they (IOC) wont bother doing it.

The football federations in those countries will oppose any decision of their stadiums being converted for cricket pitches. What world you living in? lol

 
culpepperboy 2021-07-30 00:02:02 

In reply to problemjay

I was going to suggest test matches cool

 
Jumpstart 2021-07-30 02:09:53 

In reply to culpepperboy

Man im seious. Olympics is a sham. The latest ridiculousness was having surfing and skateboarding as an olympic sports . Breakdancing is going to be an olympic sport in three years time. Also, doping is rife in the olympics.....we only find out a fraction. In swimming, there are cats with terrible techniques swimming unreal times and persons swimming faster as they get older. Make no mistake, i like the olympics. Its exciting. Im actually watching judo right now.

 
Jumpstart 2021-07-30 02:17:13 

In reply to problemjay

well i do find its irresponsible holding it with so many cases in the land of the rising sun......but im watching it. haven't got to see the swimming but watching judo, 3x3 basketball, volleyball, badminton and athletics. Still think they are doing Carter a disservice having in such slow heats.

 
Star 2021-07-30 02:58:46 

In reply to problemjay
Don't see why cricket could not be an Olympic sport.

Golf is being played for 4 consecutive days.

 
Rascalp 2021-07-30 03:16:16 

In reply to culpepperboy
Dont recall it ever was.It is a longer duration sport than Olympic events.Also not too many nations in the world population play it or even understand its complexities and finer points.Does Japan have any cricket pitches....wouldnt expect so.Funny question dat.The sports the Japs play and appreciate are golf and footie.Imagine a Japanese Olympic audience watching cricket.Who has ever seen a japanese cricketer.Your question has so much comic value it is so absurd.Thanks.
big grin

 
culpepperboy 2021-07-30 13:03:09 

In reply to Rascalp


Cricket was one of the original olympic sports.

There are over 100 countries that are members of the ICC including Japan.

The fact that you refer to the Japanese as "Japs" and at the same time claim to know what they appreciate is instructive.

 
Star 2021-07-30 13:07:26 

In reply to Rascalp
You are an uninformed person.

Sad!!!!!!

 
Drapsey 2021-07-30 13:16:29 


With much fanfare, Japan's neighbors, China, announced their 'resolve' at cricket development at the national level. They even published pictures of encamped youngsters being trained in the sport military-like. That must've been some 10 years ago.

Whatever happened to that initiative?

China Cricket

 
Rascalp 2021-07-30 13:56:33 

In reply to culpepperboy
Fool let me explain further.Only 10 countries play cricket.9 of them are former British Empire countries..India New Zealand OZ Pakistan SA West Indies Sri Lanka zimbabwe Afghanitan.Then there is England.The rest of the world in practice dont have the remote clue about cricket. The average person may have not heard of it.A minority sport it does not fit in with the Olympics.Ever seen a Japanese man or woman cricketer...and so sorry to the sensitive soul about the word "Jap"...my my arnt we sensitive and overly politically correct these days.No offence was intended..GROW UP asshole.

 
culpepperboy 2021-07-30 16:12:54 

In reply to Rascalp

Very instructive response.

 
Tryangle 2021-07-30 19:47:17 

There is a lot of nonsense posted so far in this thread.

Was nobody around when the Commonwealth Games had cricket and a few WI teams competed as individual nations?

Does anybody not know that recent and upcoming hosts have facilities that could host cricket?

The ten nations playing cricket is absolute bollocks and deserves scorn. What kind of elitist Gatekeeper nonsense is going on, from WI supporters at that?

Thailand just competed at last Womens T20 and had Pakistan on the ropes. Japan, who were just maligned uprhread, was at the U19 Worlds. Do people follow cricket outside the Test bubble even a little bit?

A 16 team, 8 team knockout tourney using T20 format can be done with no issue, rain the only impediment (baseball and softball deal with this)

Why are people content to stifle growth in a sport that already has competition from rugby and other more inclusive sports?

 
culpepperboy 2021-07-30 20:17:25 

In reply to Tryangle

What you said. cool

 
vsingh 2021-07-30 20:38:55 

In reply to TEMPER Tantrum

Check #57 on the ICC Twenty20 Rankings and see which country it is

 
Star 2021-07-30 21:09:31 

In reply to Rascalp

Only 10 countries play cricket. The rest of the world in practice dont have the remote clue about cricket.

You are not making sense. Where did you get that information from?

In case you are interested, CRICKET is the 2nd most popular sport in the world. There are 106 ICC Members with 12 Full Members and 94 Associate Members.

Soccer of course is the number one sport in the world.

 
DIEHARD 2021-07-30 21:49:14 

In reply to culpepperboy

India can't monopolize it.. You're welcome

 
Rascalp 2021-07-30 22:11:34 

In reply to Star
YOU ARE A BUFFOON....CRICKET THE 2ND MOST POPULAR GAME IN THE WORLD.THIS NONSENSE IS SO ABSURD NOT EVEN WORTHY OF A RESPONSE.Ask someone in Iran about cricket then
...ask someone in Hungary about cricket then
..stop fool.
big grin

 
Stilbatn 2021-07-30 22:41:46 

In reply to Rascalp

It is the 2nd most popular sport in the world Sir

 
FuzzyWuzzy 2021-07-31 00:07:53 

Rascalp is a real Ras****e

 
Rascalp 2021-07-31 00:22:24 

In reply to Stilbatn
There are only 10 countries in the world who play cricket.You are an idiot.But take it real slow and do your maths...assuming yuh mum and dad sent yuh to school.There are 220 countries in the world.Yes we know football is the most well known and most played sport in the world.But how can you say cricket is no.2 in that context?.I will leave you to think about it..if yuh have a brain that is in working order.This might help...cricket is popular in West Indies...BUT THE WEST INDIES IS NOT THE WHOLE WORLD ...that might help.Golf tennis rugby boxing etc are more popular and well known than cricket in the facting world.How yuh dotish so.
big grin

 
Rascalp 2021-07-31 00:50:15 

In reply to Stilbatn
List of countries who play intl cricket...India New Zealand Oz U.k Pakistan SA West Indies Sri Lanka Zimbabwe Afghanistan...forgot Ireland.The rest of the world know next to nothing about cricket.Stop fool.
big grin

 
Star 2021-07-31 01:14:53 

In reply to Rascalp
I don't think you are for real.

Sir, these simple facts are easy to verify and you don't even have to leave your home to do so.

If you do not trust your own computer skills, just call the ICC contact line +971 4 3828800 and ask them directly. You can also email them: enquiry@icc-cricket.com

They will gladly give you the answer.

Reference article dealing with this topic: "Explaining cricket, the world's second most popular sport, to Americans" by A J Willingham.

You can also reference Fon Pike's Cricket Weekly: "From England's fields to the world, how cricket became the world's second most popular sport".

 
Norm 2021-07-31 04:33:30 

Cricket is probably the only sport with more rules than some countries in Africa (like Somalia). Most of the rules are written in English, to boot. Then you need a specially prepared piece of turf to play on, with a ton of expensive equipment, and good weather!

Who in this world would bother with such complexity, expensive and weather dependency?

The only form of cricket that overcomes those problems and still remains very challenging is Guyanese bumper ball cricket.

 
Scar 2021-07-31 05:44:44 

There are only 6 Nations that qualify for Baseball in the Olympics.
By contrast based on the ICC T20 there are more countries playing T20 cricket by far.

Baseball has almost as many rules as cricket (considering it was derived from a combination if Cricket and Rounders) and some just as complex

A Baseball game is 4 hours not counting extra innings. A T20 is 4 hours.

Olympics require 4 at most 4 Baseball parks.
A T20 venue can use the same parks upon completion of the Gold medal game. With today's technology drop in pitches will be easily utilized. There is quick draining outfield technology available and both Baseball and cricket can be affected by heavy rain.

As to equipment which ones are more expensive than a baseball, hockey sticks, biking-hockey-baseball-helmets, track shoes, racing and BMX bikes, surf boards, tennis gear etc and I mean top level equipment?

Lastly the host nation is given approx 8 years or more to prep venues and prepping a park for cricket simply means moving back the "fences" to meet the 75 Yards minimum(see StKitts) big grin

The problem as I think was mentioned is the ICC and IOC haggling over "rights". IOC wants full control big grin

 
Norm 2021-07-31 06:18:35 

In reply to Scar

Have you ever looked at those T20 teams representing countries outside of Test cricket? They are all full of Indians and Pakistanis, with hardly a native born player ever. On the other hand, most Latino countries in Central and South America, if not all, have full-fledged baseball leagues, full of native born players.

Even countries like Australia, Canada, Japan, etc, have plenty of baseball leagues, all full of native players.

The so-called T20 teams in most non-Test-playing countries are generally a sham.

The ICC makes little or no effort to truly support the sustaining of cricket, and definitely not the spread of cricket. The ICC supports all kinds of crooks in the running of many boards, both of Test playing nations and their sub boards. They apply their so-called no-government-interference policy unevenly and allow racial discrimination to exist unchecked unless their is an outcry.

The ICC is hardly anything more than an old boys club, which will never survive the scrutiny of Olympic status.

It may be true that Baseball is as complex and expensive as cricket but cricket's failure to spread beyond the Test-playing nations says a whole lot about the culture of those running cricket.

As it is, Zimbabwe and the West Indies are struggling to maintain wide interest internally and a high standard of play. Afghanistan has little interest in anything but T20 cricket. Many countries hardly invite Zim, WI, Ireland, Afghanistan, etc, for tours, in true British snotty style.

So, how would we expect cricket to "graduate" to the Olympics? We would be lucky if anything but the T20 format survives another decade.

 
WICFan 2021-07-31 08:35:46 

There will be a Women's T/20 competition at the Commonwealth Games next year involving 8 nations.

The Caribbean was supposed to have a qualifying tournament for it's representative.

Something similar could be organised for The Olympics. Whether team GB would enter is questionable.

Something could be set in place for a similar qualifying system in the Caribbean.

I think a 12 team T/20 or 50 Over Competition is possible. 4 Groups × 3 teams with only the group winners going through.

Top 10 International sides plus Team GB and a Caribbean representative.

I would limit the number of over 23's in each squad similar to the football.

 
Tryangle 2021-07-31 12:26:49 

Clearly there are too many cricket 'fans' in this thread who ignore what Thailand women have done, the rise of Singapore, Malaysia and especially Papua New Guinea in the men's game and the development in places like Brazil, Peru and Mexico... and cling to stereotypes based on how the UAE is composed. ICC must relish this as support for their gatekeeping of cricket.

 
Stilbatn 2021-07-31 13:13:47 

In reply to Rascalp

I would nor waste my time to respond to you Sir

 
Stilbatn 2021-07-31 13:36:52 

In reply to Rascalp

What is really your problem? cricket is the 2nd ''most popular sport ''in the World
if you think otherwise so be it--you have a good day