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WAS VIV RICHARDS NASTY ONLY TO young LARA OR OTHERS?

Emir 12/28/21, 2:19:42 AM
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At the hotel, I had a roommate, and I’m not going to call his name, and he said, “Brian, can I have some space?” I said, “No problem.” I knew what that meant. My little interaction at 19 with the opposite sex, I knew it was going to last a few minutes. So a few minutes later I called the room and he said, “Don’t call. I’ll call you.” At 11 pm, the curfew was 12, I called again. He said, “I’m not ready yet.” I said, “You’re not ready yet, or you’re not finished yet?” He said, “Both.” I said, “Listen, I’m going to go home and see you early in the morning. Is that fine?” He was of course very happy with that. I went home. Oh sorry, I didn’t go home. Unfortunately, my dad got a heart attack that night and passed away.



I remember the first time I was a West Indian cricketer. It was 1989. The West Indies was coming to Trinidad for the next Test against India so I didn’t have to go anywhere. I went to the Oval an hour before the team arrived. I had two of my brothers there. We went on to the field, and they started giving me a little bit of throw-downs. You have to understand when the bus with the West Indies team pulled up, you’re talking about my idols. Viv Richards walked off the bus. Then Gordon Greenidge, Desmond Haynes, the late Malcolm Marshall, Jeffrey Dujon and Augustine Logie walked off the bus. I froze. I was out there, a little kid taking a knock. And I didn’t know what to do. I didn’t know whether to head towards the dressing-room or to head towards the bus
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As the team went into the dressing-room, I thought I’ll try to join them and say hello. The cricket bag that I put down in the dressing-room came flying through the air in front of me. I picked it up and walked inside. To my amazement, the same place that I sat for Trinidad, was the same place Sir Vivian Richards sat for the West Indies team. So I spent the first five days of my international career in the bathroom, ducking the players as they came out of the shower. I had to move my bag left, move it right and that’s what I did. That first Test match I wasn’t selected in the playing XI. My dad came to the picket fence and asked me for few more tickets. I went to Clive Lloyd the manager and he gave me some tickets. He was off and I



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Emir 12/28/21, 2:20:45 AM
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of course on many occasions the senior players took advantage of me and I remember right here at Lord’s during the 1991 series, rain was falling and I made sure everybody had what they wanted and the rain just continued falling. And I thought that it was an opportunity for me to take a little nap.
I had my first MRI machine experience, you know something is too close to you and I opened my eyes and in front of me was Sir Vivian Richards, staring me in the eyes, his piercing look and big nose and he looked at me and said “Did you have a late night?” I was nervous by then, heart beating and I said, “No I didn’t. I just felt that everyone was okay and they didn’t need nothing, so I thought I will sleep.” He looked at me, and if he was any close the nose would have been resting on my cheeks. He said, ‘Listen, get your a** up, and go outside and watch the rain. You are not being paid to sleep.’ And I went outside on the balcony at Lord’s and I watched the rain. After an hour later, it was still drizzling when Lance Gibbs, the manager, came and he said, ‘Brian, I have a horse running at Doncaster, let’s go along the betting shop, and we have a winner’. So I got up and went inside, only to run into Sir Viv. Bareback, a towel around his shoulder and a meanest look on his face. I made a U-turn and went back to the balcony.⏸️
sudden 12/28/21, 2:27:16 AM
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In reply to Emir

Unnuh ent tired beating a dead horse. How many times this story is going to be rehashed
granite 12/28/21, 11:19:28 AM
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In reply to sudden

Well I never heard of such stories but there's no doubt that Viv an Antiguan didn't like Trinis,I have met 2 Antiguans in the past and both didn't hid their feelings towards Trinis.
Halliwell 12/28/21, 2:02:03 PM
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In reply to granite

2 Antiguans and possibly Viv.
So 3.

What’s the population of Antigua?
My window cleaner is from Antigua and he is very cool. So 100% of the Antiguans I know are cool.
And boy can they cook!
XDFIX 12/28/21, 2:13:42 PM
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In reply to Emir


Every boy who attends a boarding school in Jamaica can testify to a Lara's experience - that's called ragging, but hazing in the U.S.!
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granite 12/28/21, 4:23:01 PM
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In reply to Halliwell

It is possible 2 Antiguans plus Viv,and i was once told by a young St Lucian fellow "I hate all Trinis,I have also met many Guyanese who are always making anti Trini comments.Yuh now know. lol lol lol
Khaga 12/28/21, 4:25:04 PM
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In reply to sudden

I agree..kinda old and tiresome..
Khaga 12/28/21, 4:25:57 PM
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In reply to Halliwell


My window cleaner is from Antigua and he is very cool. So 100% of the Antiguans I know are cool.
And boy can they cook!


Are you exploiting immigrant labor? shock
SnoopDog 12/28/21, 4:26:51 PM
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In reply to granite bin Indo Tittie

Viv an Antiguan didn't like Titties,I have met 2 Antiguans in the past and both didn't hid their feelings towards Titties


That's just terrible.
tops 12/28/21, 4:45:07 PM
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There was a link to an interview on here awhile back where Viv was being interviewed by, I think an Indian TV, I don't quite recall, but he told the story differently. If someone can find that link and post it, would put a balance.
granite 12/28/21, 5:25:48 PM
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In reply to SnoopDog

You now have an obsession or is it a preoccupation,golang bhai.
lol lol lol
Baje 12/28/21, 5:35:15 PM
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People who grew up in the 60s and 70 were accustomed to receiving and giving such treatment
hotarobin 12/28/21, 5:40:33 PM
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In reply to Emir

so did Lara ever had a good experience with Viv at all? whilst playing the game? did he have any good experiences with any of the veterans?

if so can you share a few? please don't tell me go read the book lol lol
camos 12/28/21, 5:40:38 PM
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not following the discussion closely but one should hear Viv's story of when he joined Somerset. He said he had to run bath for some Dude who was a pro at the club.
wink

remember when the new guy carried the captain's luggage?
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doosra 12/28/21, 5:53:06 PM
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In reply to hotarobin

perhaps the new generation was having none of the colonial-style 'carry my bag' sorta isht
Narper 12/28/21, 6:09:56 PM
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In reply to XDFIX

Every boy who attends a boarding school in Jamaica can testify to a Lara's experience - that's called ragging, but hazing in the U.S.!

At Canada Hall at UWI St Augustine campus in mid 70s I went through one week of 'grubbing' together with all new entrants into the hall.

I have seen big strapping young men cry.

The week of grubbing was soon forgotten.
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sudden 12/28/21, 6:10:43 PM
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In reply to doosra

Is that the same generation who was instrumental in firing the fitness guru from the generation that were world beaters and when one couldn’t hit the pitch mat to save his life and was given push-ups as an incentive told the coach that master day done and walked away? And never learned to pitch the ball in the right areas and when hit for four which was in every over would push his finger in his nose and smile shyly?
openning 12/28/21, 6:43:24 PM
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In reply to Emir
Where is the link to what is posted.
doosra 12/28/21, 6:52:10 PM
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In reply to sudden

I don't see the 2 things as the same.
1. I do not support colonial style actions. I detest it for the abuse and related problematic etc ...at the same time i teach and preach personal responsibility...I teach don't forget. I want my students to not have to workship me and think what i say must be but if they challenge me they must do so within rational and empirical frameworks.

I encountered this rubbish when i started teaching and having to mingle with the well-lettered. It was difficult for those (mostly men) folks to accept that a little non-entity could challenge things he didn't feel comfortable with or things that didn't make sense..., all this while they preached academic freedom.

Sorry I have to used my own corner to defend my pov

Does that help?
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doosra 12/28/21, 6:58:26 PM
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Ambrose tried this isht with shiv but he didn't have any of it
...hence Tiger..but he earned his respect not just by pushing back but by performing...
googley 12/28/21, 7:04:12 PM
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Kallicharan still talks about Lance sending him to the back of the bus...and bringing him beer! But he talks about those incidents with pride...it helped to make him better.
FuzzyWuzzy 12/28/21, 7:14:35 PM
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In reply to sudden
The same Lara when he became the big dog treated Rawle Lewis like shit.


Rawle turned up for his first match and asked skip what am I to do? Lara was like how de fuck should I know. Lara didn't like the Rawle pick.