The US and NATO is stoking the tension on one hand by arming countries around Russia and adding them to NATO, then on the other hand acting horrified at the Russian reaction...
A big show with Ukraine as the sacrificial lamb in a play to sell their expensive gas and quash the Nord 2 pipe line.
People wonder why the US allowed Russia and China to get ahead in the hyper sonic missile technology, its not due to incompetence or lack of foresight. It is plainly not needed, they have bases and puppets around the entire globe that can hit anyone faster than the hyper sonic with just the conventional missiles.
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Ukraine and Russia
2022-01-20 14:56:52
2022-01-21 23:34:43
Putin is no angel but if US was willing to go to war over Soviet missiles 90 miles away in Cuba, it is not unreasonable that Russia would feel threatened by the prospect of NATO weapons on its border in Ukraine...
2022-01-22 11:24:21
In reply to trev114
Meanwhile, the USA totally ignore their ally bombing and killing civilians in Yemen.
See the hypocrite, them ah galang de!
2022-01-22 15:18:47
In reply to mikesiva
Sent you a PM re another matter
2022-01-22 15:45:35
In reply to steveo
Let's lay this whole Ukraine crisis squarely at the feet of President Biden's son, Hunter. Or if we prefer, at the feet of the President himself for allowing/condoning Hunter's shenanigans.
2022-01-22 16:16:12
How da fcuk the leaders of these warmongering nations stay in power unless they reflect the mentality of the people they lead.
2022-01-22 18:39:17
In reply to Drapsey
Let's lay this whole Ukraine crisis squarely at the feet of President Biden's son, Hunter. Or if we prefer, at the feet of the President himself for allowing/condoning Hunter's shenanigans.
The Ukraine situation is a policy, I dont think it has to do with Biden's son. The media likes to romanticize stories and motive but US moves are ALL ABOUT INTERESTS and right now Russia is set to dominate the EU gas market with Nord Stream 2, cutting out the US and Ukraine.
They are sending arms to the Ukraine, and they will keep upping the potency of the weaponry UNTIL they evoke a Russian response. That is their game plan. That will give them the credence to call for MORE sanctions on Russia and have the Nord Stream running empty. They keep pressuring Germany to sanction Russia and not buy their gas, just a few days ago, a plane carrying weapons to Ukraine had to divert from German airspace, which means that the Germans are not playing their games to provoke Russia. They just need cheap energy.
2022-01-22 18:42:09
In reply to Curtis
How da fcuk the leaders of these warmongering nations stay in power unless they reflect the mentality of the people they lead.
That is an excellent point.
I think we as a species need a update on our consciousness, all at the same time. We must realize that psychology of evil is contagious and will only lead back to harm us all.
2022-01-22 18:43:04
In reply to trev114
Putin is no angel but if US was willing to go to war over Soviet missiles 90 miles away in Cuba, it is not unreasonable that Russia would feel threatened by the prospect of NATO weapons on its border in Ukraine...
The vast majority of the media does not explore the Russian viewpoint. They are not viewed as human but a evil monolith.
2022-01-23 01:17:49
There should be no compassion here for Russia.
While I have no interest in what goes on between Russia and Ukraine, we need to look no further than Hitler.
Give these guys an inch, they take a foot.
If Russia invades Ukraine, it is not because of NATO or the United States.
It is because Putin has a goal in mind to return Russia to the good old days of the USSR.
To do that he must take back the States/ Countries that made up that large swath of Square miles of the USSR.
He put his toes in the water in 2014 when he went after Crimea. Now he wants the whole thing.
What will be next if he is allowed to do that?
Latvia, Belarus, Yugoslavia, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria....?
That is how big problems begin from small innocuous stuff like what we think is going on right now.
Nip it in the bud now, Stop Russia before they get too bold.
2022-01-23 01:41:46
In reply to embsallie
read somewhere Crimeans are Russians. 92% voted in a referendum to return Crimea to Russia .Respect for the opinion of the majority is a Western based value
2022-01-23 01:51:04
In reply to Raisedseam
Ukrainians were once considered Russians too, remember?
What's your point?
2022-01-23 14:31:18
In reply to embsallie
Russia walked into Crimea; not a single bullet was fired. The people there are ethnically Russian and speak Russian and have since Tsarist times, 16th Century. The US Government Board of Broadcasting Governors conducted research which found Crimean people happy with post 2014 status. First article of UN charter of human rights says its the people who should decide who should govern them, not you, me or NATO.
Learn to read and think for yourself dont parrot MSM
2022-01-23 14:44:20
President Dwight Eisenhower January 17th 1961 warned the American public of the danger he called the industrial military complex. The U.S. sold $175 billion in weapons to foreign governments in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, 2020 according to Pentagon and State Department officials. Under Trump 2.5 Trillion was allocated to the Military. War and as Bob Marley sung Rumors of a War is big business in America. Nato which includes America, has literally surrounded the Russian Border with substantial military prescience and offensive arms in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland all circle Russia's border. Russia has been complaining about this for decades with no available ears.
The US controls about 750 bases in at least 80 countries worldwide and spends more on its military than the next 10 countries combined. With bases in South Korea, Japan, Australia, Kuwait, Turkey, Italy and Germany the combined military force of US Bases and NATO Bases should be enough to "protect" the World from Russian aggression but in the eyes of America and Europe, its still not enough, now they want a base almost inside Russia, Ukraine.
Russia's largest foreign military base is in guess where? Ukraine. Russia operates 21 significant military facilities overseas, as opposed to America's 750. So the question is, "Who is the Aggressor? Russia. or United States?" Russians have been begging for peace for decades since the fall of the Soviet Union but the West is relentless and unbending. You can only push a man so far and demanding that Ukraine become a satellite of the United States is not a very good diplomatic chess move.
Almost all of Russia's wars were territorial. American has never been to war over its own territory, they fight on foreign soil.
The US controls about 750 bases in at least 80 countries worldwide and spends more on its military than the next 10 countries combined. With bases in South Korea, Japan, Australia, Kuwait, Turkey, Italy and Germany the combined military force of US Bases and NATO Bases should be enough to "protect" the World from Russian aggression but in the eyes of America and Europe, its still not enough, now they want a base almost inside Russia, Ukraine.
Russia's largest foreign military base is in guess where? Ukraine. Russia operates 21 significant military facilities overseas, as opposed to America's 750. So the question is, "Who is the Aggressor? Russia. or United States?" Russians have been begging for peace for decades since the fall of the Soviet Union but the West is relentless and unbending. You can only push a man so far and demanding that Ukraine become a satellite of the United States is not a very good diplomatic chess move.
Almost all of Russia's wars were territorial. American has never been to war over its own territory, they fight on foreign soil.
2022-01-23 14:49:11
Russia toughens its posture amid Ukraine tensions
MOSCOW (AP) — With tens of thousands of Russian troops positioned near Ukraine, the Kremlin has kept the U.S. and its allies guessing about its next moves in the worst security crisis to emerge between Moscow and the West since the Cold War.
Amid fears of an imminent attack on Ukraine, Russia has further upped the ante by announcing more military drills in the region. It also has refused to rule out the possibility of military deployments to the Caribbean, and President Vladimir Putin has reached out to leaders opposed to the West.In recent days, Putin also spoke by phone with the leaders of Nicaragua and Venezuela, and a Russian government plane was recently seen cruising between Cuba and Venezuela in a possible harbinger of the next Kremlin moves.
The military muscle-flexing reflects a bold attempt by the Kremlin to halt decades of NATO expansion after the end of the Cold War. In talks with the United States, Russia demands legally binding guarantees that the alliance will not embrace Ukraine and other former Soviet nations, or place weapons there. It also wants NATO to pull back its forces from countries in Central and Eastern Europe that joined the alliance since the 1990s.
Putin has described NATO membership for Ukraine and the others as well as the alliance’s weapons deployments there as a red line for Moscow, warning that he would order unspecified “military-technical measures” if the demands aren’t met.
Putin pointed to NATO drills with the Ukrainian military, increasingly frequent visits of the alliance warships in the Black Sea and the flights of U.S. bombers near Crimea to emphasize the urgency of Russia’s security demands. He argued that by creating training centers in Ukraine, Western powers can establish a military foothold there even without its joining NATO.
“We have nowhere to retreat,” Putin said. “They have taken it to the point where we simply must tell them: ‘Stop!’”
Amid fears of an imminent attack on Ukraine, Russia has further upped the ante by announcing more military drills in the region. It also has refused to rule out the possibility of military deployments to the Caribbean, and President Vladimir Putin has reached out to leaders opposed to the West.In recent days, Putin also spoke by phone with the leaders of Nicaragua and Venezuela, and a Russian government plane was recently seen cruising between Cuba and Venezuela in a possible harbinger of the next Kremlin moves.
The military muscle-flexing reflects a bold attempt by the Kremlin to halt decades of NATO expansion after the end of the Cold War. In talks with the United States, Russia demands legally binding guarantees that the alliance will not embrace Ukraine and other former Soviet nations, or place weapons there. It also wants NATO to pull back its forces from countries in Central and Eastern Europe that joined the alliance since the 1990s.
Putin has described NATO membership for Ukraine and the others as well as the alliance’s weapons deployments there as a red line for Moscow, warning that he would order unspecified “military-technical measures” if the demands aren’t met.
Putin pointed to NATO drills with the Ukrainian military, increasingly frequent visits of the alliance warships in the Black Sea and the flights of U.S. bombers near Crimea to emphasize the urgency of Russia’s security demands. He argued that by creating training centers in Ukraine, Western powers can establish a military foothold there even without its joining NATO.
“We have nowhere to retreat,” Putin said. “They have taken it to the point where we simply must tell them: ‘Stop!’”
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2022-01-23 16:04:43
In reply to embsallie
In reply to Raisedseam
Ukrainians were once considered Russians too, remember?
What's your point?
Ukrainians were once considered Russians too, remember?
What's your point?
You don't really answer the question, Crimea was part of Russia before Ukraine became part of the USSR, after Ukraine became USSR they were asked to administer the area, I suppose logistics played a part in the decision. Crimeans are Tartars not Ukrainians .
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