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Canada: Waging War on the Jamaican Patty
In reply to FanAttick
As usual Toronto thinks it is the centre of the universe.
Just take a look at who wrote that Sunday Gleaner front page story - check 11.21 minutes and you will see.
Not only did I in Ottawa write that story, I was the person who initiated the end of the patty war. My best piece of public relations and nobody knew about it.
We had in Ottawa a patty maker who had a restaurant called Spicy Luke's. He told me about the patty situation.
I knew Mulroney was going to Jamaica and I called his office and told them to make sure he asked for a patty and ate one when he went to Jamaica.
I then phoned Jamaica House and told them the same thing.
I next wrote the story for the Gleaner and told them to make sure they got a photograph of Mulroney eating a patty when he was in Jamaica.
They did! It worked! Of course it worked!
But Torontorians don't know that!
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In reply to Ewart
we done sah!
In reply to FanAttick
was great PR for di patty
In reply to Ewart
You should coax Luke out of retirement. Ottawa West Indian food scene is pretty bad.
In reply to XFactor
I have a friend who opened a W I restaurant there some years ago. The thing is, I had to laugh when I hear he opening a restaurant. Y I had to laugh, he had 2 speeds. VERY SLOW and DEAD SLOW...
We use to joke that if U order breakfast U will get it for lunch. Unfortunately, his restaurant didn't last.
In reply to Ewart
Brilliant
kudos on pulling off a culinary coup
In reply to Chrissy
Indeed. In NY the patty quality leaves a lot to be desired .

In reply to Ewart
First timer I am hearing of this. Well done as usual Ewart.
At that time I was bursting my everything here in Philadelphia anchoring another family and preparing to provide a
wonderful future for them.
This event would never begin to happen here in the USA. One other wonderful reason that I got to love this country, USA, with all its faults.
Happy for the outcome but what a ridiculous event...over a Patty ?
I found less acceptance of Jamaican music in the 70s here except for Harlem where I spent most of my weekends.
But it did not take long for Reggae through Jimmy Cliff and Bob Marley to find its place and became robust alongside American soul and other genres'.
A patty ????
Today Jamaican restaurants with its rich menus are extremely popular among Americans of all stripes.here in Philadelphia .They can't get enough of the oktail and curried dishees..
Patties here, no problem ,mon.Never was
In reply to hubert
The first time I heard of coco bread, we were going to a funeral of a friend's son. I ask my Jamaican buddy to grab me a patty and a coffee at the subway station where he was...He got one with coco bread and ask me if I wanted coco bread. Poor me never heard of that B4, but I ate it anyway. Was good. 😋
In reply to tops
Butterflap in GT = coco bread
In reply to Curtis
O, really? Some West Indian stores sell it here in Toronto.
U learn something everyday.
In reply to tops
I have spent a fair amount of time in Ottawa in the late 90S and back then if you wanted West Indian food you'd have to drive to Toronto to find a decent West Indian restaurant.
I am always on the hunt for a good patty. I can do without the frozen Jamaican patties in the grocery stores.
Lemme know where or what brand is a good one.
Tomorrow is Patty day in Little Jamaica in Toronto
Patty Day
Register online for your free patty ...
Two patty and two coco bread with a bottle of Kola Soda....no wonder our folks have been plagued with diabetes.
I wonder if the late great Volier Johnson got his pork patty. I hope he did.
In reply to hubert
Ive had Bruces Patties(Kingston) Tastees Patties(Kingston), Juici Beef Patties(Clarendon), Hammonds Patties(Sav-la-Mar)
but the best patties Ive ever had was Crusty Patties(Mandeville). Crusty Patties were on another level
both in terms of the crust and in terms of the filling.
The crust was the crispiest, flakiest of all but when it came to the filling there was not doubt that you were eating real beef
.the other brands, aside from the chicken, vegetable or shrimp filling - you had to hope that you were eating real beef
.I believe Crusty Patties were hand made
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Crusty also made a wicked meat loaf as well
the meat loaf was a cross between a patty and a coco bread
.a meat filled loaf that was bigger and heavier than the patty
chances are you could easily eat two or three patties but you would struggle to eat more than one meat loaf because it was so filling
When I was at Manchester High School - for lunch we used to buy two freshly baked and steaming hot out of the oven hardough bread at a bakery named Collins on Ward Avenue(Thanks Camos) and divide it up between three people(2/3 of a loaf per person) - split your portion open and add two patties
.coupled with a large carton box of Juciful Orange Juice or Fruit Punch - then head over to the nearby Mandeville Golf Course to consume
my word - your day was pretty much done after that
Some of my brethren made up a song about that experience that was so popular that the principal(who was very conservative old school) - shocked everyone by asking them to perform the song in the auditorium in front of the whole school
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In reply to FanAttick
My two favourites Bruces Patties & Tastees - Bruces long gawn -never had Crusty
The coco bread patty combo seems like an unlikely marriage
People on Cp24 discussing best patty in Toronto now, today is indeed patty day!
My brethren that, the patty freedom fighter store owner. Great piece by CBC.
Happy Jamaican Patty Day all!!!!!
Yes, that is a thing and it is today!
In reply to FanAttick
Bruces was Family .They began at the top of Retirement Road in Cross Roads back in the day.
Still the best patties I had had..Used to visit and observe the process and see real beef being used.
I was living at Rousseau Cresent then and the time I get to lynhurst Rd on my way there,the whiff of the aroma
was in the air and hastened my progress to the store almost everyday.
Oh the joy of being a pre teen
In reply to FanAttick
Bro, Collins was on Ward Ave, at least in the 80's!
In reply to Curtis
I saw that segment as well. Viewers giving their opinion where to find the best patty.
Some suggestion:
Warden Subway Station
Patty Time - Scarborough
Peanut Plaza - Toronto
McKay Plaza - Brampton
I am on a patty hunt this weekend.
Now I need to find fresh young coconut - I am a big fan of the jelly as well. Anyone know?
In reply to hubert
My mild patty and coco bread story...
I was checking into a hotel in Cincinatti when the manager detected my Yard accent and came over to converse. He said he grew up in Florida and attended school with lots of Jamaicans, where the patty was a lunch staple. However, he couldn't recall the name of "the other thing". When I told him it was coco bread, he was ecstatic.
Did I mention that I got a free room upgrade?
In reply to Drapsey
Sweet - di ting is dat coco bread is nothing but carbs
In reply to Chrissy
true! but these food were intended for the young who are burning serious number of calories per day.
In reply to Chrissy
While I buy the 12-pack frozen box of patties from BJ's or Sam's Club on a regular basis, I haven't had coco bread in years.
This thread makes me feel like I would have one for lunch.
In reply to camos
For real..You are absolutely correct. Ward Avenue it was .My memory gawn bad



I just looked at the map - Brumalia Road runs into West Road which runs into Ward Avenue .
In reply to XFactor
Let me know what your favorite Toronto patty is. Stores I go to stock Allan's and Michidean mostly. Allan used to be my favorite, but formula seems to have changed.
In reply to FanAttick I had quite a few drinks between Collins and Danny Lewis on Ward Ave in my days!
In reply to camos
Speaking of drinks - my favorite spots back in the day were Countrylife Bar and Gun Smith Bar (at Little Wonder)on Manchester Road in Mandeville
Appleton and Pepsi was the drink of choice
Ok, just had a Fahmee patty and enjoyed it
In reply to Curtis
I believe the owners changed.
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In reply to Ewart
Ewartche
Did you tell them after that article in the Gleaner
CSIS keeping an eye on you as a rebel in Ottawa..
In reply to sgtdjones
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