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black 2022-02-24 18:28:37 

Why do you guys prefer the green banana over the green plantain for cooking?

I personally think the green plantain is tastier than the green banana when cooked.

Just my opinion.

 
Ayenmol 2022-02-24 18:33:10 

First politics/Trump.
Now food.
I guess if that don't work to scratch the itch then it's will be the next of the trinity.....

On the subject though, there is no way green plantian is tastier than green banana....i tend to resist both, but plantain is just too dry and not real tasty in any way....green banana has a sweetness to it still.

 
Drapsey 2022-02-24 18:36:15 

In reply to black

In the Yard plantain had the same status as the Bajan Privilege, so the common man only had access to bananas, hence the popularity.

wink wink wink wink

 
camos 2022-02-24 19:28:50 

In reply to black
plantain was never as popular a crop as banana, so if you have lemon you make lemonade.

 
black 2022-02-24 20:36:57 

In reply to camos

Plantains are very popular in Guyana.

 
StumpCam 2022-02-24 20:49:06 

In reply to black

Hence, the BG Plantain! lol lol

 
camos 2022-02-24 21:02:46 

In reply to black

Plantains are very popular in Guyana.



Plantains need more caring as a crop, the plants do not last as long as bananas, the fields have to be replanted every few years. So, bananas which also had a ready export market was the predominant crop.

 
Chrissy 2022-02-24 21:11:59 

In reply to black

Trinis too - dem call it green fig.
I prefer boiled green bananas with local dishes over boiled green plantain. I like green plantain in split peas soup or jerk chicken and corn soup.
I love pound fried green plantain and it is a rare day I eat ripe plantain. I have a sister who still adores her friend yellow plantain.

 
black 2022-02-24 21:17:41 

In reply to Chrissy

I don't like yellow plantains.

 
StumpCam 2022-02-24 21:54:36 

In reply to camos

Latin Americans, Haitians and Africans consume a lot of plantains!

 
camos 2022-02-24 22:21:25 

In reply to StumpCam

I know that, but when I was growing up, plantain was a treat.

 
Brerzerk 2022-02-24 22:24:53 

In reply to StumpCam
Ugandans use a variety of Banana akin to the 'Hawaiian Banana' (big n fat) to make their staple carb dish called Matoukie. The crush and whip it until it looks like West African Fufu.
I ask dem, why go through all that trouble when one can just crush it on their plate?

 
Ayenmol 2022-02-24 22:43:12 

Ripe plantains are the bomb....just like ripe fig. Or as we D'cans say, ryefig.

Love that we get them here pretty cheap....fried ripe plantains? Please and thank you....I can eat a hand of ripe bananas in one day and I love all things ripe fig....love it in icecream....cream pie....one of my friends makes a pudding with it.....yummy yummy yumzy.

 
Chrissy 2022-02-25 00:59:42 

In reply to black
Love green plantain chips fried in coconut oil - about to open a bag.

 
Emir 2022-02-25 01:07:38 

In reply to Chrissy

fried
unhealthy


oil
our biggest contributor to poor health

Have you tried making the same chips without frying it and without oil? The taste is great

 
black 2022-02-25 02:18:03 

In reply to Chrissy

Love plantain chips too.

 
Brerzerk 2022-02-25 02:27:48 

In reply to Emir
Disagree Emir. One has to be consuming lots of carbs along with lots of fat; animal fat included and then
be inactive to have lifestyle illnesses. In fact many of the high cholesterol problems stem from eating refined carbs over and above the bodies needs. If after being stored in the liver as glycogen it is not used
then it becomes fatty acids and stored as fat all over the body especially around organs.

 
Emir 2022-02-25 03:18:19 

In reply to Brerzerk

But the proportion of carbs is too high in the West Indian diet and now with the introduction of American fried foods- no oil is good for consumption- along with the carbs found in potato and all types of green fig or green moko and or green plaintain remains unhealthy.


The lack of fruits and vegetables is killing people by way of lifestyle diseases such as diabetes, HBP, heart disease etc.


A diet that is free of oil cooked foods, free from all carbs and sugar is ideal. One that consist of Fruits, Vegetables, Fish, (no shell fish such as shrimps, counch, oysters etc. Organic poultry, Goat and Beef meats (no dirty pig meat and other wild boars) will almost guarantee a life free of ill health and diseases.


For drinks, 12 glasses of water daily with one cup of coffee in the morning. No fruit juices- including the so called fresh squeeze fruit juices, no alcohol beverages of any type and no shakes . It goes without saying, all soft drinks and other so called sports drinks must be avoided at all costs.

 
alfa1975 2022-02-25 06:27:29 

In reply to camos If you are from a place like Oracabessa (a banana shipping port for over 100 years), you would understand that plantains were as delectable as whitehouse bananas. Somewhat akin to going to St Mary High and seeing grapefruit trees on the lawns, laden with bright yellow grape fruits. And later wondering why only birds would eat the grapefruits.I later discovered that my childhood had not prepared me for grapefruits that were not sweet!.

 
alfa1975 2022-02-25 06:57:19 

In reply to Chrissy That green fig thing brings a smile to my face. I am married to a Trinidadian, but before marriage, I was invited to lunch or dinner with my prospective wife's family.Her mother in trying to make me comfortable asked me if I ate green figs. I told her no.
Months later on another trip to Trinidad my girlfriend as she was then, and I are driving in the back of nowhere to Mayaro.She is pointing out something to me and mentions the green fig trees, and all I am seeing are banana trees. So I asked is that what your mother was asking me about?. My dear thats a banana tree.

 
Halliwell 2022-02-25 08:31:11 

In reply to Chrissy

But green fig isn’t banana
It’s another 2 or 3 types

They are just easier to grow- or find lol

 
Chrissy 2022-02-25 11:01:58 

In reply to Emir

Bro mi love fried green plantain - I eat mostly healthy food but mi een giving up dem lil pleasures. What I do is use di best coconut oil around.

Let mi put it dis way - if I drop dead tomorrow not one obit will say I died young lol wink wink

 
Chrissy 2022-02-25 11:02:45 

In reply to alfa1975

lol lol lol

 
Chrissy 2022-02-25 11:04:55 

In reply to Halliwell
Hahahahhaa - not here

 
Emir 2022-02-25 11:24:06 

In reply to Chrissy

big grin big grin

 
Emir 2022-02-25 11:26:30 

In reply to alfa1975

She is pointing out something to me and mentions the green fig trees, and all I am seeing are banana trees. So I asked is that what your mother was asking me about?. My dear thats a banana tree.


big grin

But indeed, Mother in law was correct:

The word/name banana- whether ripe or green, is the Arabic name for that fruit.

English speaking natives refer to that fruit as Fig wink

 
Drapsey 2022-02-25 11:44:18 


My banana / plantain story.

Years ago I worked on a project in Puerto Rico (Ponds de Puerto Rico).

When my local associates realized that I was Jamaican, they started treating me like one of them. They started taking me out on 'road trips'. Nice.

They were so impressed when not only could I point out the difference between a plantain plant and a banana plant, I was able to point out the difference in banana plant varieties; Lakatan, Gros Michel, Robusta. They thought those things were all just bananas.

 
Chrissy 2022-02-25 12:19:46 

In reply to Drapsey
You must be quite an expert. I am impressed - I could not do dat

wink

 
hubert 2022-02-25 13:23:41 

In reply to Drapsey
Asa St. Mary man, Bananas and later plantains were like the family badge starting with supplies to
the United Fruit company in the late 19th century.

Gros Michel, the ace of bananas ,was the strong suit and even though the variety was practically destroyed by leaf spot disease, a fwew
plants still remain on what is left of the vast acreage. Lakatan ,Robusta and S19 came to the fore as they were more
resistant to disease. We used top ship tons of the bananas through the port of Oracabessa. That was the main industry of the seaport town then.

When I became involved as a young man,I invested heavily in plantains..the Horse variety and the Maiden Variety.
We used both bananas and plantains extensively,eaten boiled ,green or ripe making porridge with both too although nice green bananas with
mackerel, run down and such was our favourite when as boys we run our own 'boat' (cooking).

During WW2 ,bananas and plantains were dried and grated and made into flour and stored on the property .The family did the same with breadfruit.
The 'flour' was stored in a special barrels placed in a special little room that was pretty cool too.
When I tell folks about the 'flour' from these fruits they are incredulous.. But war and blockades caused inventiveness then when one could
not afford to waste food but preserve it. The fanily helped a lot of the poorer folks in the community out in this way too.

All cooking was done with our home made coconut oil. Fried ripe plantains in the oil ,eaten with ackee is a wonderful dish.
We even drank pot water after cooking the bananas/plantains as any nutrients present would not go to waste.
We, in St. Mary ,grew up strong back in the day.

smile

 
Drapsey 2022-02-25 13:51:00 

In reply to hubert

Nice, nice!

Although I came up much later, I can still identify with some of those 'remnants'. I recall food was stored in the buttry (sp) where things remained cool. All good because the ice truck only showed up on Sundays (after church).

BTW, while growing up I hated boiled green bananas. I'll eat some every now and then, but hate the peeling effort while preparing for cooking.

Another of my side stories...

One of my earlier memories is being taken by my mother to see the Banana Boat being loaded at the Montego Bay wharf. The women carrying the banana bunch on top of the head, katta and everything involved. Did I mention all the singing?

 
black 2022-02-25 14:00:39 

In reply to Drapsey

Puerto Ricans love them some yellow plantains. lol

It's fascinating how different cultures embrace or reject certain foods.

 
StumpCam 2022-02-25 15:12:26 

In reply to hubert

Growing up in Guyana we ate plantains in similar ways!
Banana, however we only ate it primarily as a fruit, until I came to New York and had boiled banana at Jamaican restaurant!

 
black 2022-02-25 15:16:15 

In reply to StumpCam

Yep.

How about papaya?

Have you ever cooked green papaya?

 
StumpCam 2022-02-25 15:18:58 

In reply to black

Nope!

 
black 2022-02-25 15:26:14 

In reply to StumpCam

It's pretty good.

 
camos 2022-02-25 15:28:52 

In reply to black


Have you ever cooked green papaya?



I know new men in Jamaica that stay away from papaya, they claim it is a tenderizer and make your dick soft!

big grin

 
black 2022-02-25 15:30:39 

In reply to camos

lol lol

There's some truth to the tenderizer part.

 
StumpCam 2022-02-25 15:33:56 

In reply to black

I had it as a ripened fruit yesterday! cool

 
black 2022-02-25 15:46:04 

In reply to StumpCam

The papayas here in the supermarkets are not that tasty.

 
StumpCam 2022-02-25 16:09:45 

In reply to black

I agree! Not the same as tree ripe!

 
granite 2022-02-25 17:05:11 

I have been having Plantains for breakfast for about 15 years,I have noticed though,the plantains I get here in England are getting smaller.This morning I bought 3 plantains and really you would;ve thought they were bananas.I remember when plantains used to be almost 12 inches,the ones I bought today was nothing more than 8 inches.

 
granite 2022-02-25 17:05:17 

I think they are harvested too young and haven't fully grown.

 
hubert 2022-02-25 17:40:26 

In reply to Drapsey

Peeling the banana was the toughest thing as you had to also deal with stain if you do not ,moist
your hand with some oil prior.
However, that problem was solved when I migrated to the USA.

Where we used to put a slice and then used fingers to take off the skin,the
Jamaicans here taught me..but not before berating me for trying to peel it the Jamaica way

'We no peel banana in America' one sweet lady told me then showed me how

.Just put two long slice with a knife on opposite sides and; put in the pot of water and when
half way cooked, use a fork or such and easily removed the skin.. then continue to cook fully.
And following custom growing up, I leave a few peels in the pot too to the end.

Worked like a charm and have not peeled a green banana since 1970.
smile

 
Drapsey 2022-02-25 19:00:11 

In reply to hubert

Thanks for those pointers, hubert.

I also practice the method of slitting before peeling, but depending on the variety and or condition of the banana, the peeling can still be a challenge.

Going forward I might adopt the method of pre-boiling with the skin on so as to loosen things up a bit.

We keep learning.

 
beesis 2022-02-25 19:15:45 

Link Text

We have no songs or poems about plantains

 
granite 2022-02-25 21:11:10 

In reply to hubert

My mother did it that way in Trinidad.

 
hubert 2022-02-25 21:35:23 

In reply to granite

Learn it late but very thankful

big grin

 
Drapsey 2022-02-26 12:37:55 

In reply to hubert

To continue the Banana story, I had to look-up this poem ...

The Song of the Banana Man

Touris, white man, wipin his face,
Met me in Golden Grove market place.
He looked at m'ol' clothes brown wid stain ,
An soaked right through wid de Portlan rain,
He cas his eye, turn up his nose,
He says, 'You're a beggar man, I suppose?'
He says, 'Boy, get some occupation,
Be of some value to your nation.'
I said, 'By God and dis big right han
You mus recognize a banana man.

 
Chrissy 2022-02-26 13:00:53 

In reply to black

Very good

 
Chrissy 2022-02-26 13:02:04 

In reply to beesis

You een know dis classic?

from di king of innuendo

lol lol lol

 
black 2022-02-26 18:19:40 

In reply to Ayenmol

On the subject though, there is no way green plantian is tastier than green banana....i tend to resist both, but plantain is just too dry and not real tasty in any way....green banana has a sweetness to it still.


I agree, plantains can be a little dry but if cooked properly, can be delicious.

Green banana tend to be bland and that blandness is something people can come to appreciate or even love. But, you won't know what you are missing until there's contrast with something else.


And, if you fry both, plantains come out the winner.

 
black 2022-03-12 18:31:29 

In my opinion, plantains offer different array of textutes and tastes depending on the different stages of ripeness, banana will simply fall apart if ripened past a certain point. Plantains can be cooked green, slightly ripe and fully ripe to the point where they do not fall apart.