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Best WI players never to make the test team

 
VoopsandOut 2022-04-07 02:55:59 

I cant recall if we ever had this discussion. Anyone care to make some suggestions? Nikita Miller? Imran Khan? Ralston Otto? Dave Joseph?

 
Arlo 2022-04-07 03:16:33 

In reply to VoopsandOut

Nikita Miller played 1 test, Dave Joseph played 4 tests

 
Brerzerk 2022-04-07 03:17:14 

In reply to VoopsandOut
Discussed before, one prominent name was Renford Agustus Pinnock, Neville Bonitta another

 
velo 2022-04-07 10:22:46 

roland butcher lol

 
Drapsey 2022-04-07 10:27:42 


Jim Allen.

That man from Montserrat had all the shots.

 
culpepperboy 2022-04-07 10:50:42 

In reply to velo

Don't forget Archer. cool

 
Chrissy 2022-04-07 14:19:38 

In reply to VoopsandOut

From which era?
Add Jim Allen.

 
Chrissy 2022-04-07 14:20:45 

In reply to Drapsey

Didn’t even see your post lol

 
imusic 2022-04-07 14:54:02 

Victor Eddy…..altho I’m not sure if he played for Kallicharran’s team that toured India
Richard De Souza
Rangy Nanan
Timur Mohammed
This will make buds happy….Donavon Pagon cool
Jason Bennett
And this will make Yammy happy…..Andrew Richardson cool

 
NYCGURU 2022-04-07 14:58:59 

In reply to VoopsandOut

I was at Mount Vernon stadium years ago, Otto had just played a lofted off drive that sailed over the roof. Desmond Haynes was having a chat with Slocombe who he had played youth cricket with for Spartan, he said Otto was the best player he had seen not to have played Test cricket.

 
bird 2022-04-07 15:13:44 

In reply to VoopsandOut
two that comes to mind are: Timur Mohammed and andrew light

 
WI_cricfan 2022-04-07 15:19:37 

Milton Pydana

 
Toney 2022-04-07 15:22:12 

In reply to Drapsey

Neville Bonitto

If you have never heard of him, ask DonDor Ewart

 
imusic 2022-04-07 15:29:18 

In reply to WI_cricfan

Pydana toured India with Kallicharran’s team

 
googley 2022-04-07 15:37:54 

Randolph Ramnarace. He played with the World XI against Oz but never selected for WI

 
Raggs 2022-04-07 15:41:32 

Mark Neita if now he’ll be tops in this era

 
VoopsandOut 2022-04-07 15:58:04 

i think that Nanaan did play test cricket. I remember Richard deSouza from the 70s. The days when cricketers did not need to look fit.

 
VoopsandOut 2022-04-07 16:00:03 

In reply to Raggs

Mark Harper as well?

 
imusic 2022-04-07 16:21:44 

In reply to Raggs

Mark Neita tops in what?

 
WestDem 2022-04-07 16:23:47 

Did Richard Gabriel played Tests?

Leslaine Lambert is also one!
Ganesh Mahabir too.

 
RedDuppy 2022-04-07 16:48:37 

In reply to imusic

big grin

 
Brerzerk 2022-04-07 16:51:29 

In reply to Raggs
Don't agree, he at times ran from Bajan Pace. Better you had said Delroy Morgan or even his opening partner Wayne.

 
Baje 2022-04-07 17:19:29 

Emmerson Trotman
Thelston Payne
Franklyn Stephenson

 
Drapsey 2022-04-07 17:28:37 


There was also a Dottie named Livingstone Sargeant.

I actually saw him play once, but by then he was already long in the tooth.

 
tc1 2022-04-07 17:53:01 

In reply to Baje

George Rock

 
tc1 2022-04-07 17:57:16 

In reply to NYCGURU


was Slocombe an off spinner from the great school in the North.

 
Dukes 2022-04-07 18:08:36 

In reply to imusic

Nanan and Pagon played test cricket.

 
Maispwi 2022-04-07 18:09:51 

In reply to Baje

Thelston Payne played 1 Test

 
imusic 2022-04-07 18:29:22 

In reply to WestDem

Did Richard Gabriel played Tests

Played a few.

Most famous for being banished back to the pavilion by Viv Richards in Australia after a midfield cool

Gaby coulda bat tho

 
TanteMerle 2022-04-07 19:30:13 

In reply to Baje

Payne played one test.

 
TanteMerle 2022-04-07 19:31:50 

In reply to Dukes

Nanann played one test

 
TanteMerle 2022-04-07 19:34:27 

In reply to WI_cricfan

Milton Pydana camein the wrong era.

Very very unlucky player.

cry cry

 
tc1 2022-04-07 19:47:48 

In reply to imusic

Gaby coulda bat tho



this dude can bat with avg of 28 and 15, yet KB can't bat. cry

 
defeyeant 2022-04-07 19:51:40 

In reply to Baje

Thelston Payne played one test

 
defeyeant 2022-04-07 19:53:24 

In reply to VoopsandOut

Mark Neita, Ralston Otto, Delroy Morgan, Andrew Lyght

 
Raisedseam 2022-04-07 20:05:49 

In reply to tc1

music man adds using his fingers and toes

lol lol lol

 
conman 2022-04-07 20:09:10 

Andrew Richardson

In a time where there was a real fast bowling drought he had incredible FC numbers

Real surprise he never got a nod

 
Drapsey 2022-04-07 20:18:38 

In reply to conman

Real surprise he never got a nod

He actually got picked, but with compliments of Dinas (Jumpstart) and his most inopportune WIPA strike, wasn't able to take advantage.

 
velo 2022-04-07 20:19:18 

In reply to Bajemany people still feel hewas a better keeper than dujon but dujon the better batsman

 
tc1 2022-04-07 20:39:25 

In reply to Raisedseam

lol lol lol his pan has wrong notes.

 
NYCGURU 2022-04-07 22:49:12 

In reply to tc1

Yes he is an off spinner, but am not sure which school he attended. I played with him for Lucas in the Metropolitan league for years. He still plays Masters cricket for a team in Atlanta.

 
tc1 2022-04-07 22:58:28 

In reply to NYCGURU

I saw him a couple of years ago at Canarsie Park, we went to the same school, I was ahead of him.

 
imusic 2022-04-07 23:13:35 

In reply to conman

Andrew Richardson

In a time where there was a real fast bowling drought he had incredible FC numbers

Real surprise he never got a nod

Richardson’s time had come.

He was selected for WI squad to England. Didn’t play on that tour but would likely have made his debut against Bangladesh in the following home series.

Then majority of WI players went on Strike. Reifer and Sammy came in and subsequently went to the World Cup with a scab team.

Richardson was a casualty of that industrial action. His “reward” was a position in Wavell’s WIPA.

That’s my recollection anyway. I could be wrong.

Yammy would know more

 
imusic 2022-04-07 23:16:41 

In reply to tc1

this dude can bat with avg of 28 and 15, yet KB can't bat. cry

Hooper could bat.
Pagon could bat
Samuels could bat
Etc etc

All underachieved. So did Gabriel.

KB cannot bat. He’s an excellent blocker tho.

 
defeyeant 2022-04-07 23:21:45 

In reply to velo

many people still feel hewas a better keeper than dujon but dujon the better batsman


You sure about that? As I remember it Bim pushed him as a keeper to advance him but had better keepers and Mike Worrell from Empire had been the bajan keeper around 83 or so while Payne made the bajan team purely as a batsman.

 
Priapus 2022-04-07 23:24:59 

I note that the majority of responses have been about batsmen. What about bowlers?

Anthony Merrick
George Ferris
Casper Davis who I rated above Cameron Cuffy.

Other notable batsmen include...
Luther Kelly
Livingstone Lawrence

 
imusic 2022-04-07 23:31:27 

In reply to velo

many people still feel hewas a better keeper than dujon but dujon the better batsman

I doh know bout “many people”, but for me dat is Fake News

Thelston Payne was a very average wicketkeeper. He was a decent batsman and made the Barbados team as such.

I would not say that Payne’s keeping was at all better than Dijon’s and Dijon’s batting spoke for itself.

The best keeper around in those times was David Murray followed by David Williams and Ignatius Cadette.

Williams couldn’t bat for shit. Murray was slightly better with the bat and Cadette was the best batsman of that 3.

Payne would have been a better bat than Cadette. But as a keeper? Nah…..dat jokey.

 
Narper 2022-04-08 00:51:07 

In reply to VoopsandOut

I cant recall if we ever had this discussion

Many many times in the past

 
Raisedseam 2022-04-08 00:55:44 

In reply to Narper

Very much so the names of the almost men remain the same

 
birdseye 2022-04-08 01:04:46 

In reply to Raggs

Mark Neita if now he’ll be tops in this era
Was he a Clarendon College Alum?

 
tc1 2022-04-08 01:05:11 

In reply to imusic


does that make sense to you?

Charlie Davis was a blocker, but he could bat.

 
Raisedseam 2022-04-08 01:15:15 

In reply to tc1

Was a time a ton against Bim automatically bestowed a place in WI squad

 
Massy 2022-04-08 01:25:02 

Rex Ramnarace,Winston English, Edwin Mohammed and Lloyd Cornelius from Guyana .

 
Brundog 2022-04-08 01:37:55 

In reply to VoopsandOut

Shane Julien- had a great domestic career.

 
Massy 2022-04-08 02:15:57 

In reply to tc1
How can you describe one of the best WI batsman as a blocker . Did you ever see Charlie exquisite cover drive? .He ended his relatively short career with an average of over 50.

 
DIEHARD 2022-04-08 02:21:29 

Nobody saying Keiron Pollard?

 
Dukes 2022-04-08 03:00:14 

In reply to Priapus

Merrick and Ferris were two very good fast bowlers.

 
Dukes 2022-04-08 03:04:40 

In reply to imusic

The best keeper around in those times was David Murray followed by David Williams and Ignatius Cadette.

Williams couldn’t bat for shit. Murray was slightly better with the bat and Cadette was the best batsman of that 3


I agree that David Murray was the best wicketkeeper of the 3.

He was also the best batsman of the 3 and it is not even close.I remember on a tour of England David Murray mad a great century against Kent and Clive Lloyd talked about it repeatedly.
As a matter of fact, he felt that David Murray was a better batsman than Derrick Murray..

 
tc1 2022-04-08 03:29:10 

In reply to Raisedseam

you are correct.

 
tc1 2022-04-08 03:36:41 

In reply to Massy

if you compare the SR of Charlie Davis with KB , you may be surprised to see than KB may have a better SR than Davis. Davis played very little test cricket and for than reason it difficult to consider him a 'best west Indian batsman'. When he was at the crease his batting mimic KB.

 
mikelegend 2022-04-08 03:40:48 

Ralston Otto and Linden Joseph

 
Scar 2022-04-08 04:23:47 

In reply to Dukes
Disagree that Murray was better Keeper than Cadet. Findley selectors bias kept Cadet out for an old 40s and going g Findley. Seen them all up close and Cadet was the bravest, better shot maker and quickest glove hand of the 3. Cadet used to stand up to the stumps to Nobert Phillip,Shilling ford etc for Wndwards and Combine. Seen him stump a few from there off seamers. I think he scored a double Ton on Tour of England vs a County side back in the day after getting his jaw broken and wired up.

Cadet made way early for those after him saying he won't block the youngsters chances like Findley did to him.

 
Scar 2022-04-08 04:25:18 

Marshall Francis offspinner

 
methodic 2022-04-08 04:50:02 

In reply to imusic

Williams couldn’t bat for shit. Murray was slightly better with the bat and Cadette was the best batsman of that 3.


I heard Micheal holding say more than once that David Murray was a better batsman and wicket keeper than Dujon. I heard
other people including past players talk about how good he was but severely underperformed in West Indies colors.

gabriel only represented West Indies in a tri-series in Australia. he never played test cricket.

 
methodic 2022-04-08 04:57:08 

best not to play test, maybe Jim Allen and hartley Alleyne

 
Maispwi 2022-04-08 12:33:19 

Ignatius Cadet was the best wicketkeeper of his time not to make the time although Dominicans will say dat Gifford Walsh was just as good.

 
Maispwi 2022-04-08 12:38:28 

In reply to imusic

Dat sending off incident was in a Benson and Hedges LO match

 
Maispwi 2022-04-08 13:21:57 

In reply to Priapus

Casper Davis had injury problems seems similar to Obed McCoy. Is it a Vincy ting?

 
Raisedseam 2022-04-08 13:53:46 

Franklyn Stephenson

Hartley Alleyne

 
Massy 2022-04-08 14:00:50 

In reply to methodic

I tend to agree that David Murray was a better keeper and batsman than Jeff Dujon .
David used to bat at No 3 in a very strong B’dos batting lineup .
However, his departure to the Rebel Tour and his drug addiction defaulted his career and the great Jeff Dujon was the benificinary.

 
JoeGrine 2022-04-08 14:14:45 

In reply to birdseye


Was he a Clarendon College Alum?


He was a K.C. boy.

 
TheTrail 2022-04-08 14:44:18 

In reply to tc1

In reply to imusic


does that make sense to you?

Charlie Davis was a blocker, but he could bat.


smile

 
Brerzerk 2022-04-08 15:23:11 

In reply to Maispwi
and did not distinguish himself. Just a good FC player. Doubt he would've done well in tests either as keeper or batsman

 
Brerzerk 2022-04-08 15:25:41 

In reply to velo
Absolute Joke-Payne was made into a keeper and wasn't a good one. In his one test as keeper he was God-awful.

 
Brerzerk 2022-04-08 15:28:37 

In reply to birdseye
KC so too his dad CHURCHILL NIETA

 
Curtis 2022-04-08 15:29:53 

Yours Truly. Selectors were biased, never even got called to Trials for GT.

 
Dukes 2022-04-08 15:49:00 

In reply to Scar

Cadet used to stand up to the stumps to Nobert Phillip,Shilling ford etc for Wndwards and Combine. Seen him stump a few from there off seamers. I think he scored a double Ton on Tour of England vs a County side back in the day


Methinks you are mistaken

Cadet had 10 stumpings in first class cricket.5 were off Hinds,4 off Kentish and 1 off Parry.
Cadet has 2 half centuries in first class cricket, one against T&T and the other against Jamaica and his first class batting average is either 15 or 16.
Hendriks,Findlay and David Murray are 3 of the best WI wicketkeepers in the last 60 years.

 
CITYBOY 2022-04-08 16:34:34 

Horton Dolphin. Just walked away from cricket.. Ask Lloyd about him..
Went to UWI.. walked away from cricket and then a real sad episode personally ..
A great guy

 
defeyeant 2022-04-08 18:02:33 

Cadette didnt move me as a batsman. But then the couple of times I remember watching him at Kensington Marshall was making him look particularly uncomfortable but then again Marshall did that to many batsmen in that era

 
CITYBOY 2022-04-08 18:27:54 

Cadette was a good player.. his smoking habit destroyed him

 
Bread 2022-04-08 18:52:15 

Enoch Lewis

 
Raggs 2022-04-08 19:08:30 

In reply to birdseye

Neita went to Woolmers Boys

 
Massy 2022-04-08 19:29:31 

In reply to Raggs

Mark Neita was very good at the U19 level
I thought he and his captain would have gone on to wear WI colors .
His captain ( his name is eluding me) went on to play County cricket while studying in England .
I think Mark is a lawyer .

 
CWWeekes 2022-04-08 22:54:28 

Sam Morgan
Bruce Wellington
Teddy Griffiths
Cleveland Davidson

 
camos 2022-04-08 22:57:03 

In reply to CWWeekes

was looking through to see if he was included, was top class until his arm broke.

 
camos 2022-04-08 22:58:11 

In reply to Massy

was that Mordecai?

 
Massy 2022-04-08 23:26:41 

In reply to camos

I think his name was Marlon Tucker .

 
Mr-Anguilla 2022-04-09 11:17:11 

In reply to VoopsandOut

Livingston Harris
John Maynard

 
noved 2022-04-09 15:20:22 

Wayne Lewis

 
Dukes 2022-04-09 15:26:56 

In reply to Mr-Anguilla


John Maynard


R U talking about THE DENTIST!!!!!

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

 
DIEHARD 2022-04-09 16:57:52 

In reply to Massy

Correct, best regional captain never to play for WI they say.

The poor man's Mike Brearley

Before Tamar Lambert there was Marlon Tucker