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Jimmy Adams: Players not meeting fitness standards 'a letdown

Did they have minimum fitness standards when Dessie and Jimmy played?

In reply to imusic

How is that relevant to whats happening now? I do know Denis Waight had the Packer boys in tip top shape.

In reply to imusic

What kind of response is the?

U want bring back beer and a cigarette during lunch break too?

I would like them to very explicitly explain the nature of these fitness tests and scheduled frequency of these tests.

Also the rationale for and relevance of the types of tests

I would especially like to hear from Sarwan....who was often accused of being unfit, Sarwan now owns a gym. Is Sarwan going to now admit he was not fit in his playing days or was he being victimized jus because he didn;t 'look' fit?

This fitness test ting is like one big mystery

1.No one can outline eactly what are the fitness requirements

2. In the past, you have players who were given exceptions

3. So big belly Cornwall and old man Gayle passed this same fitness test with flying above the standard grades in recent years? because they made WI teams and were playing on the field!

4. And the past players who on the board singing a song of criiticism rarely had to endure any fitness test, which lead to the next question..Who implemented this mystery test? The same players?

In reply to problemjay
Commentators like Tony Cozier and Reds Perreira used to rave about how dangerous a 70-80% fit Gordon Greenidge were

WI cricketers' fitness issues are more mental than physical

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

In reply to imusic

Did they have to do a yo yo test? From the rumours they all did the LoLo tests...and the ringleader was Cappo Big Pu-C

If you dont know about de loLo....Dr Dukesy will explain

In reply to Fuzzy

In reply to Narper

[b]In reply to imusic[/b The minimum standard was that you got your behind out there and did every damned thing Demis Waite asked plus a little more. Then when you went home you ate sensibly, exercised and stayed fit. Both were fitter and more in shape than current Evin!!

In reply to Narper
Some more of your foolishness!
Injury in sport is different from fitness re endurance agility, stamina etc. Your wrist could be injured but tou could still run the same speed for the se distance, dive and grab a ketch etc. Yuh just like Palin

In reply to Brerzerk

Maybe it is as you suggest.

But you have yet to provide any metric that was used to assess fitness levels.

We regale in the tales of superior fitness levels for our all conquering teams.

The story goes that as for beaten during Packer and when Packer himself stormed into the dressing room after a defeat and told everyone they had to go back home….Viv Richards said we had to do something about it.

So magically, Dennis Waithe appeared. We trained like monks. And that aligned with our “natural athletic superiority” was enough for us never to lose again.

And when Waithe left the team after getting thrashed in South Africa…..it was only because Lara questioned his methods……which up till then, had worked spectacularly.

Curious then that Waithe seems to have just disappeared. One would think with that track record of success, teams would be lining up to sign him.

Can’t figure it out.

In reply to imusic
Waithe was a waste of time-unqualified idiot

We need not to get ourselves too worked up ..
In yesteryears players looked after their own fitness.. it was imperative that they did so as to be successful..
No one told them they had to do anything but they recognized that a PERSONAL FITNESS SCHEDULE WAS
IMPORTANT ..
I went to Bourda one morning at 5 to do so training and lo and behold Gary Sobers and s few test players were there doing some running etc ( they were in Guyana to play s test)
Today we have somehow moved to qualification criteria on fitness( like a motor car before you can get a licence)
How this equates to being successful is anyone ‘s guess.
Bowlers train hard and batsman stay in nets for hours.. and then they practice fielding.. surely the players will not be at the same fitness level....
So who decides what??? The board has a magical invisible passing grade( as many get passes for whatever reason)
This whole thing is much ado about nothing and merely favors those who are IN with the admins..
Can Pant of India pass Adams yo yo test ..
Just wondering

In reply to CITYBOY

In reply to Barry

Can’t remrmber but I think when England went down in 67 or 68 .
Them boys used to train

In reply to Brerzerk

You are just a jackass with brawn only....go run like Waite and sweat out de rum

In reply to Barry

Gary has his hands behind his back and was jumping like a frog. .. bottom line was cricket was their profession and behind the scenes they took it serious ..

In reply to CITYBOY
Okay, you were 60 then . . . where did they run?

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In reply to Narper

Who knows. Gary used to be in the village every time he hit Guyana .. the less said the better and Wes can be seen flagging down hire car early in de morning to get back to hotel .. hey that’s the way it was ..
And no damn Instagram or what’s app to showcase anything.

In reply to Narper
The first regional match I saw at Kensington after moving to Calgary was Barbados vs T&T, it was very different from watching it on TV.
The fans tell the story of every player.
I met Vasbert Drakes on the first day of the match, it was a Barbadian intro, Vastbert had an injury and sat out the match, some fan believe he was faking it and let him know
Vasbert at that time was playing cricket in South Africa and wanted to return fully fit, because his captain lose his contract the previous year, returning after the off season out of shape.
Jerry Rice fitness regiment I followed for years, his out of season trying was more intense than the regular season, after Rice Tiger Woods made every young golfer know about fitness.
Deion Sanders say, he cannot coach millionaire who just show up.
Cricket is now a professional sport, you should be able to run in and bowl 90 mph at 10:00 am and 5:00 pm.
Same goes for running between wickets.

In reply to openning
I am a strong believer in fitness too.

But CWI and Padams are using the fitness requirement for other motives...why cant they be transparent about the fitness requirements....and the schedule for testing and/or retesting

For eaxample how exactly did Lewis not meet the requirements?

In reply to Narper
No professional player should fail a fitness test, I don't care who you are and what criteria is listed for the test.
I also don't think in 2022, a cricket captain should be the general.

In reply to openning

In reply to Narper

Fitness has taken on a more important role in today's cricket...all sports really.

So what Sobers and kanhai got away with will not work today. Them cricket was a little more than amateur sport.

In reply to problemjay

In reply to imusic
was fidgeting with phone while in Dentist chair, you are right re measurable data. I missed most of the posts that were flying by on the subject. Gonna read through now.
Personal responsibility if you want it enough is still key though. Just getting up and run is a good start towards getting to where a pro cricketer wants to go.I have heard that both Headley and Sobers swam ocean miles every opportunity possible, mostly early mornings.

In reply to Narper



suh, how come a Jackass knows what it is he doesn't know n you don't; Guyneez Bias? Yuh think 15 mins warm up n 2 hrs. weightlifting in the gym suit cricket?

In reply to problemjay
Dude every day I am in and around plenty doctors, from 1972 until today most of my buddies came to Calgary as CFL players.
To make the Calgary Stampeders football team, you had to pass the physical, one of the guys is now a running back coach in the NFL.
Fitness is part of my DNA.
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In reply to Narper
first, only one man, who is presently with an IPL team is unfit.... the statement implies many. Secondly, we don't know if he is injured or "unfit" or when was a "fitness test" done or not done.

In reply to sgtdjones

I actually applaud them for saying this early o clock...letting us know what the concerns are.

@Imusic. - You are better than that response- try harder.

In reply to imusic

In reply to openning

What’s wrong with questioning if they had fitness standards in those times?

If you think I’m “defending Evin Lewis”, this is what I posted when the team for Netherlands and Pakistan was announced

In reply to openning


I am assuming that since you are around CFL you can pass the yo yo test, not the toy.

In reply to tc1
In the last couple years because of certain things in my life, which Imusic is aware of, my fitness routine has slacken, I still practice dancing and walk daily.
Golf season has started, so I will start swinging my golf clubs soon.

In reply to openning

FANTASTIC

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In reply to Narper
Bro, I am the cook.
My brother that died in 2012 and I, had our dad DNA, he was skinny also.
My brother is at King City, he always call me skinny.